This is an interesting discussion. The topic here is used as a debate to either prove or disprove God.
This is very problematic in terms of basic philosophical theories. These basic theories fall into one of two categories. Non-materialist or materialist. Materialist philosophers claim that creation was an accident or random event of some some sort. Basically that we are the product of Luck! Even so by the measures of Science the very things that would prove materialism would also prove God. Let’s say God created every thing and that when He did it wouldn’t matter what he created it would all interact in accordance with some type of Divine patterns, patterns much to complicated for mere Humans to measure, discern or even comprehend if they ever could get a perspective on what would basically be a Grand Template.
Basically the reasoning of this goes something like this.
In getting back to the basics of what everything is made of, substance or material such as matter, that has mass and momentum and other such measureable characteristics, the number of materials and the number of interactions of these material is numbered. Even so only God knows the Template and the patterns of interaction of quantifiable events or quanta such as quantum and quantum physics. Try to remember that quantum physics itself may be useful, even so it is still theoretical. It is very theoretical that there even is such a thing as quanta.
Simply This.
The fact that maybe there is or maybe there isn’t such a thing as Luck, or random occurances even at the sub-atomic level, if there is such a thing as a sub-atomic level, does not either Prove nor Refute God. It’s really a silly argument when it comes right down to it, you see!
So to finish up here, Luck or random events, particularly random quantum events are problematic to sound philosophical theory although not necessarily to sound physics theories.
The Agnostic Scientist can only argue the chain reaction theory of creation based on accident or on Luck, as you would say. Such a type of Luck would make the world as measured by physicists complete chaos and measurable only as chaos. A materialist such as an Agnostic Scientist depends on a predictable order to deny God and still requires Luck which is not predictable, for creation. Very, very problematic at a basic level.
Here’s what is problematic to a Theist who must refute the claims of the materialist Agnostic Scientist. The fact of a random factor of any sort does not by any reasoning either Prove or Refute God. So what do you do? They say an ordered physical universe as postulated from the measurements of physics, and enough of those measurements prove conclusively that there is some order to the physical universe, that it is indeed ordered in some way, they say that this refutes God. You the Theist have to say this. You can go on looking for some remnant of the original accident of Luck that moved one rock that then moved another and somehow created everything with a spark of life, because it’s not there! As a Theist your Faith tells you that since there is a God and he can do things far past the potential for Humans to understand, much less know of in any way, then they the materialists have had their minds tricke, in all probability or even all likelihood by satan himself.
As a Theist the world is problematic, No Problem!
