do satanist believe in real presence in our eucharist?

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Okay, I’m a little confussed here. These satanists steal the bread used during the Eucharist? How/when/where do they find it? Second, Catholics believe that during the liturgy the bread transforms to the body of christ…right? So at what point do they steal it…before it is transformed or after? Where is it kept? Where do Catholics get the bread that is used…does someone make it and then bring it to the church before the liturgy?
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Elizabeth
 
I’m curious. Do these people attend Mass and don’t take it? I can see how this can happen if they come for commuion on the hands and not on the tongue.

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Coptic:
Okay, I’m a little confussed here. These satanists steal the bread used during the Eucharist? How/when/where do they find it? Second, Catholics believe that during the liturgy the bread transforms to the body of christ…right? So at what point do they steal it…before it is transformed or after? Where is it kept? Where do Catholics get the bread that is used…does someone make it and then bring it to the church before the liturgy?
God Bless,
Elizabeth
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If I am not mistaken, they break into Adoration Chapels and take hosts that have already been consecrated. Once a host is consecrated, there is no way to “deconsecrate” it. It is the body and blood of our Lord. That is why the vandals stealing it and desecrating it is such a travesty.

Satanists, who believe in the transubstantiated hosts, believe that they can actually hurt Jesus by desecrating a consecrated host. The incidents of stolen hosts usually raise just before Halloween, Satanism’s most holy day (if you can call it that). There are even incidents of Satanist going to Catholic Mass pretending to be worshippers, go up to receive the host, but never swallow it. They either take it in the hand and then sneak it into their pocket, or place it on their tongue and spit it out when they reach the pew.
 
I’ve observed some young adults palming Communion and transferring it to their pockets as the come back down the aisle.

The creepy thing is that the Eucharistic Minister who gave them Communion, recognized and greeted them by name.

I’m only in RCIA which is why I’m watching everything like a hawk, but was amazed when no one seemed too concerned when I mentioned it to our Coordinator. So maybe the young people were chromatically challenged, and that was the reason they were dressed all in black, but …

I have read accounts of the black mass (won’t dignify it with capitalization). While the practices are gross, disgusting, filthy and unholy, it seems that one should worry more about the damnation that the thieves will create for themselves. If the host was in any danger wouldn’t angels attend?

Perhaps, I’m naieve, but I don’t see the Satanists being able to summon our Risen Lord simply because they have a piece of the Host. Of course, I’m not sure they’d like the outcome if He chose to answer their “invitation!” Calls to mind the advertising line, “Quick fried to a crackling crunch!”

Can someone please explain why the theft sounds so dire?

Just two weeks ago, a chapel near me started hosting Veneration. When I slipped in to say my Rosary at lunch, there was one other person praying, by the time I finished my prayers, there was no one there but me and my God. Maybe he mistook rookie me for his relief?

Being new to the RCC, I didn’t realize I was doing anything wrong when I went back to work, leaving the Host unattended.

I talked to my wife when I got home and learned that in our parish, that is never allowed to happen.
 
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TomK:
I’ve observed some young adults palming Communion and transferring it to their pockets as the come back down the aisle.

The creepy thing is that the Eucharistic Minister who gave them Communion, recognized and greeted them by name.
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This should be reported to someone in authority who will do something about it. Talk to the Pastor and if he doesn’t show concern, then write the Bishop. If the Bishop doesn’t respond, then it should be reported to the Congregation headed by Cardinal Arenze, who appeared this week on EWTN’s The World Over news program. In addition to sacrilege against Christ, those who knowingly participate or allow it excommunicate themselves. It is a serious offense.
 
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Scott_Lafrance:
I’ll let you figure that one out. Let me know what you come up with.
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I am sorry for my sarcasm. I tried not to click “submit reply” after I typed it, but just couldn’t help myself.

Even if I weren’t being sarcastic, I wouldn’t touch that one with a barge pole.
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
I will PM you with that information it is not appropriate for the forum.God Bless
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Thank you Lisa!! 👋

Just a thought here - once the Eucharist is in the hands of evil as described here, why wouldn’t Our Lord remove Himself from it? He can do anything, right?

I listen to a Catholic call-in radio show - and one caller said that once when he received the Precious Blood, it somehow spilled onto his shirt. By the time he got home the place where it had spilled was dry and not at all visible. He hung the shirt up all the same and did not want to wash it lest the Precious Blood be rinsed into the sewer. The show host explained that by the time the spot where the Precious Blood had spilled was dry, the Presence was no longer there so it would be fine to wash it.

Granted, the Eucharist is a solid and can’t evaporate, but I would like to think that He would just leave the stolen host so by the time the evil-doers started their ritual (whatever) they would unknowingly have nothing but a wafer.

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Little Mary:
Thank you Lisa!! 👋

Just a thought here - once the Eucharist is in the hands of evil as described here, why wouldn’t Our Lord remove Himself from it? He can do anything, right?

I listen to a Catholic call-in radio show - and one caller said that once when he received the Precious Blood, it somehow spilled onto his shirt. By the time he got home the place where it had spilled was dry and not at all visible. He hung the shirt up all the same and did not want to wash it lest the Precious Blood be rinsed into the sewer. The show host explained that by the time the spot where the Precious Blood had spilled was dry, the Presence was no longer there so it would be fine to wash it.

Granted, the Eucharist is a solid and can’t evaporate, but I would like to think that He would just leave the stolen host so by the time the evil-doers started their ritual (whatever) they would unknowingly have nothing but a wafer.

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Lets hope and still pray. The fact that they know the Real Presence exists in the Host and they choose to desecrate it is unconscienable and I am sure it saddens our Lord. The devil decieves them they think they gain favors. In this time in Lent we would do well to reflect on Jesus being tempted by satan, look at the means he used.God Bless
 
Tlaloc said:
religioustolerance.org/satanism.htm

Teacher, educate thyself.
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To tolerate satanism,huh:nope: You never cease to amaze me:( We pray that they are released from the bondage of the father of lies and the murderer from the very beginning! They are against all that is good. Do whatever you will:mad: Lies and deception and total depravity and I pray that they are released from bondage:nope: Tolerance for satanism my foot:rolleyes:
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
To tolerate satanism,huh:nope:
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I admit it’s harder to tolerate some belief systems than others…
You never cease to amaze me:(
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Oh, Lisa, we’ve barely scratched the surface.
We pray that they are released from the bondage of the father of lies and the murderer from the very beginning!
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What do you think they pray for you?
They are against all that is good. Do whatever you will:mad: Lies and deception and total depravity and I pray that they are released from bondage:nope: Tolerance for satanism my foot:rolleyes:
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You feel the same about all other beliefs, don’t you?
 
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Tlaloc:
I admit it’s harder to tolerate some belief systems than others…

Oh, Lisa, we’ve barely scratched the surface.

What do you think they pray for you?

You feel the same about all other beliefs, don’t you?
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First statement,obviously.Second statement,sadly your probably right.The question, I wouldn’t want to know.Last statement -No I don’t just the ones who feel child sacrifice and infant sacrifice are acceptable,that also goes for the rationalising the murder of the unborn as well.Yes, they are decieved by the evil one and in bondage.God Bless
 
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JimO:
This should be reported to someone in authority who will do something about it. Talk to the Pastor and if he doesn’t show concern, then write the Bishop. If the Bishop doesn’t respond, then it should be reported to the Congregation headed by Cardinal Arenze, who appeared this week on EWTN’s The World Over news program. In addition to sacrilege against Christ, those who knowingly participate or allow it excommunicate themselves. It is a serious offense.
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Now, this would be the same priest that consecrates the Precious Blood in ugly, clunky, glass (think Pyrex) goblets? You don’t even want to know about the bishop …

Watching “Does the Church Still Teach That?” keeps me sane!
 
To take issue with 'tolerating" other belief systems, we as Christians are commanded to love people with other belief systems while at the same time rejecting untruth.
 
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Scott_Lafrance:
To take issue with 'tolerating" other belief systems, we as Christians are commanded to love people with other belief systems while at the same time rejecting untruth.
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Out of curiousity, Scott, do you think someone could really love you as a person while vehemently declaring you deserve to burn in hell for your beliefs? Do you really think it’s possible to hate the sin and love the sinner?

Our beliefs are part of who we are, hate them and you are hating the person.
 
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Tlaloc:
Out of curiousity, Scott, do you think someone could really love you as a person while vehemently declaring you deserve to burn in hell for your beliefs? Do you really think it’s possible to hate the sin and love the sinner?

Our beliefs are part of who we are, hate them and you are hating the person.
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Scott hates nobody and neither do we.Yes they can really love you ,my dad was Church of Christ as was his mom they told me that I was going to hell as well as my children for being Catholic.Did they Love us?YES!They think strange things about Catholics and so in their eyes they were protecting.Yes it is possible to hate the sin and love the sinner,and it is done every day all around the world.You have strange ideas over what constitutes hate.God Bless
 
Tlaloc,

I fear for you. Your nome de plume explains the subltlety of your tongue as expressed in your pen. I suspect that your thoughts betray your master.

While we may be commanded to love all God’s creatures, that is not a commandment to hold a rattlesnake to our breast. I’ve had experiences that through God’s mercy other forum members have not shared. It is possible to love a Satanist, but to do so rarely ends well and frequently only imperils two souls instead of one. I suspect Satan uses these people as spiritual booby-traps for Christians, baiting them to love this sinner and lose their own soul in the process. Your subtle course of action is not one that intelligent people should engage in, and unfortunately, the subtle poison that Lucifer gives to his adherents is too deadly to be triffled with through your proposed acts of sophistry.

I seriously doubt you are after any Catholic Answers here. It appears that discordia are your fruits. It seems you lurk here only to lay subtle snares and damage yourself.
 
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Tlaloc:
Our beliefs are part of who we are, hate them and you are hating the person.
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WOW - kindof a strong and pathetic statement. My dearest cousin lives with her boyfriend and had a child out of wedlock. While I do not condone that sin, I love her and her baby with all my heart. She’s like my sis. Why would I hate her? She needs support and love for that is what will help in her conversion. All that mixed with some Catholic truth and teaching and much prayers.

In fact, Tlaloc, please pray with me now for conversion of my dear cuz, and all those luck warm souls who need to turn to God. Let us pray in Jesus name, AMEN.
 
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