I am very interested in that period of history.They’re cool devoted and gallant warriors, characters of Arthurian legends. But they are in league with Catholicism, kills and hurts opponents. I wonder there are non Catholics that actually like them, because it’s weird.
Love the sinner, but hate the sin.I am not even very sure that many Catholics even like them or the Crusades in general.
They were “in league” not just with Catholicism but with Western Christianity, before Protestantism separated from Catholicism. As such, their failures - all of those needless deaths on both sides - are part of our heritage, too.They’re cool devoted and gallant warriors, characters of Arthurian legends. But they are in league with Catholicism, kills and hurts opponents. I wonder if there are non Catholics that actually like them, because it’s weird.
Well, Jerusalem is in the same general direction. I’d be more concerned with the death of art – I shudder to think of Europe without statuary.Maybe today we’d all be on our knees praying towards Mecca 5 times a day if not for those crusades.
Hold on there; he said they were Western Christian Crusades. Crusaders persecuted Eastern Christians in the Levant and Eastern Roman Empire as they did Muslims and Jews.Here Here Myst and I applaud you speaking out, they were called "Christian Crusades’ not Catholic Crusades and they didn’t start because Christians just felt like having a crusade. Like most conflicts there is more to the story that isn’t being heard.
The Fourth Crusade, most notably, ranks up there with the creation of Souperism in Ireland among Christianity’s darkest moments.Hold on there; he said they were Western Christian Crusades. Crusaders persecuted Eastern Christians in the Levant and Eastern Roman Empire as they did Muslims and Jews.
The Fourth Crusade is just one part. It was common for traveling crusaders to raid the Balkans and Roman-held Anatolia on the way to their wars in order to get supplies, and the Crusader States exiled the Patriarchs of Antioch and Jerusalem, setting up alternate Latin-Rite bishops in their place. Proselytizing of local Orthodox Christian citizens was common by the elites of the Crusader States in the Levant, and that’s not even bringing up the Crusader States in the Balkans and Cyprus which are both entirely different cans of worms altogether. If we’re going to call the Crusades “A Christian phenomenon,” I should hope that we can distinguish that countless thousands of Christians were victims of this phenomenon, too. Life wasn’t made easy for Eastern, Oriental, and Assyrian Church of the East Christians, and if I recall correctly the Venetians argued that it was the duty of the Crusaders to sack Latin Rite Ragusa as well.The Fourth Crusade, most notably, ranks up there with the creation of Souperism in Ireland among Christianity’s darkest moments.
Hold on there; he said they were Western Christian Crusades. Crusaders persecuted Eastern Christians in the Levant and Eastern Roman Empire as they did Muslims and Jews.
Aaargh, did I post anything?The Fourth Crusade, most notably, ranks up there with the creation of Souperism in Ireland among Christianity’s darkest moments.