Do suicides always go to Hell?

[MJCamp]

I could not say for sure if you would go to hell. However the last thing you would be doing in your life is murder which is a mortal sin. Instead of giving into despair offer your pain up to God and try to do his will. God loves you and he puts us all through tough times. I know things look down now but don’t give up.

This! We are taught as Catholics to offer our suffering up for others…Imagine the pain Jesus felt to know one of his most trusted Apostles would turn on him for greed. Then He would have to carry the cross for our sins, and the very same man that he is dying for, is persecuting him. The rosary is a very powerful weapon against the enemy. I would definitely try to start there if you can. If it is too hard you might try Chaplet of Divine Mercy. God Bless

 

[Deus_tecum]

There are many passages in Scripture that tell us we must give thanks and praise to God for all things and in all circumstances. Depression is a tool of the devil. Do not allow it to consume your thoughts. Exchange each negative thought for praise and thanksgiving. I realize you may not “feel like” doing this, but do it anyways. It is an act of faith that puts the devil on the run.

 

[austcatholic]

I just want to let you know that I have prayed for you. I pray that you will find strength in Jesus who loves you so much and that Mary, mother of us all, holds you close and doesn’t let you go.

 

[meltzerboy]

I fight suicidal thoughts every day (actually, it’s been more like ever other day recently). I have been out of work for 4 years. I used to teach college until I had the son of an administrator in one of my summer classes, whom rarely showed up for class, and his parent tried to force me to pass him. When I didn’t, I lost my career (so much for standing up for your beliefs, right?). If you’ve been out of work just recently get a new job *as fast as possible *because NO ONE is hiring people who have been out of work over 6 months, and you need to be working to keep you SANE.

I**n the last two years: **my mother died in a car crash, my wife left me and took our 6 year old son to live with her at her parent’s house, my house was foreclosed and I was forced to live with my father (who already had my sister and her son living with him), my nephew has mental issues and punched me in the face and after an argument with my father over the issue I was kicked out when I had about $100 left in my bank account, my ex wife of all people helped me get into an apartment and gave me my divorce settlement early so that I could pay my rent 1 year in advance because my credit rating is destroyed. I lost my medical insurance due to the divorce and thus lost my prescriptions for my diabetes medicine AND the antidepressants I was taking (cymbalta) which also treated my diabetic neuropathy and my ADHD medication. I live alone in a basement apartment (alone for the first time in my life) and I get the privilege of seeing my beautiful 6 going on 7 year old EVERY TWO WEEKS instead of daily when I used to drive him and pick him up from school, and I am in constant pain each and every day.

I’m not even the worst case scenario in this world. Neither are YOU. There are people in impoverished countries that would probably kill to trade places with you or me.

So YOU STAY ALIVE!! You haven’t earned the right to leave. Offer up your pain for the salvation of souls and the souls in purgatory. Whatever events that led up to your current situation may not have been in your control, but the sobering reality is that God allowed it to happen to you. You owe God to stay alive and endure, and unite your suffering with the suffering of Christ on the Cross. That is your duty! (Talk about your 4 letter words).

I’m so sorry for your situation as well, but great post, which, hopefully, will inspire the OP. Are you looking for another college teaching job, perhaps even as a part-time Adjunct Instructor? If so, you might consider searching on the website higheredjobs.com, which has comprehensive listings in all states and fields in both senior and community colleges. Also, there are some pharmacies that will provide you with medication at the same cost even without health coverage since they buy it in bulk. All you would have to do is contribute the co-payment you were paying. Consider checking with the pharmacy from which you purchased the medication before losing your insurance. Best wishes.

 

[thistle]

YOU do not know. The infallible Catholic Church says that suicide is a grave (mortal) sin. And unless one can commit suicide and then afterward go to confession and be absolved, one who commits suicide dies in a state of mortal sin and goes to hell. So don’t do it!!!

What you have said is simply misleading. Please actually read the Church teaching which I posted in #3 above. There are many ways culpability can be reduced so that a person taking their own life is not committing a mortal sin.

 

[Michael_Francis]

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[Michael_Francis]

Follow-up is occurring offline.

Thanks to those who offered help and prayer.

Individuals in danger of harm, whether from others or from themselves, should immediately seek professional help, either from the police or professional counseling services respectively.

It is a forum policy not to allow discussions aimed at a particular individual in such circumstances because this is not an appropriate venue for resolving such problems.

ACTION: Thread Closed

 

[Holly3278]

Hopefully the Catechism of the Catholic Church will help to console you in this matter:

Suicide
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2280** Everyone is responsible for his life before God who has given it to him. It is God who remains the sovereign Master of life. We are obliged to accept life gratefully and preserve it for his honor and the salvation of our souls. We are stewards, not owners, of the life God has entrusted to us. It is not ours to dispose of.

2281 Suicide contradicts the natural inclination of the human being to preserve and perpetuate his life. It is gravely contrary to the just love of self. It likewise offends love of neighbor because it unjustly breaks the ties of solidarity with family, nation, and other human societies to which we continue to have obligations. Suicide is contrary to love for the living God.
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2282** If suicide is committed with the intention of setting an example, especially to the young, it also takes on the gravity of scandal. Voluntary co-operation in suicide is contrary to the moral law.

Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide.

2283 We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives.

scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a5.htm#2280

 

[Methos]

ACTION: Thread Closed

Yet, it’s open. Should it be locked if it’s closed?

 

[Christine85]

Hi there, try not to give in to despair. I realize sometimes the despair may seem so intense and then there is the suicidal impulse, but I believe you can pray your way through this. Pray now that you will not submit to this temptation. I recommend you pray the Rosary and the Divine Mercy chaplet and try to receive the Sacraments often as well as pray in the presence of Jesus in the tabernacle. He will heal you from these temptations!!
Just keep pushing on in faith. Eventually by prayer and faith you will start to see hope. You will break through this period of depression!! I believe you will if only you have faith and pray you will see hope soon. Do not give up.
As to what happens when you commit suicide we do not know as people said it is up to God at the end of the day.
Perhaps you should join the Seraphic Mass Assocition it is only $5 to enroll to be a member for life and for as long as the Association remains. It may be helpful for you spiritually.
There is also a thread on here entitled “Favourite websites to send petitions to” it has 3 pages worth of links of places you can send prayer requests to
Here is the forum thread forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=451946

TO FORUM ADMIN SORRY ONLY JUST SAW THIS IS CLOSED

 

[Vigilant]

If you are out of work, attend Mass daily. Confess weekly. Pray for several hours each day. Ask God to help you to discern His Will, and follow it. I assure you, suicide is not part of His plan for you.

Persevere.

 

[thistle]

Hopefully the Catechism of the Catholic Church will help to console you in this matter:

scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a5.htm#2280

That’s what I already posted in #3.

 

[HolyRosaryChild]

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Satan is causing these thoughts in your head as an illusion; there is no ‘illusion’ when reality hits and you have deliberately taken the Life that God has given you; passing over into darkness instead of Light and joining the ‘Lost Souls’ on the other side who are floating for years in the fog.

Allow me to share a secret with you Pat in relation to what my Mother in Law viewed when she was dying the third time around.

She clearly saw Lost Souls “so many many Lost Souls, it was horrible, you all have no idea how many Lost Souls there are out there”. My Mother in Law was a practical, non-airy fairy Woman who never feared religion or Scriptures. She never feared anything much during her Life, probably as a result of having a hard life spent in a cold freezing Boarding School taught by strict Sisters at the age of 5 years.

Fear it Pat because it is not God’s way, His Will or His Plan for you; it is satan’s evil plan for you in which you are able to receive assistance to get you out of this Hole just as Piglet and Christopher Robin got Pooh Bear out of Piglet’s house on many occasions when he went in search of Honey often tipping the honey pot upside down for the last drop!

I am making light of the situation as many people have had thoughts of satan’s ‘illusionary encouragement of going against God’s Will’ at one time or another during their Life.

The first thing you need to do is book yourself in with another Psychiatrist who will treat you effectively; a Hospital visit to treat the depression properly getting on the right medication and having the staff check that the medication is working properly. (I have friends with depression after Family changes Pat and realise what you are going through).

Next, visit your Catholic or Christian Bookshop and pick up two Crucifixes, the Green and Brown Scapula (one under your mattress), Jesus’ Holy Images, The Miraculous Medal, Rosary Beads (for praying The Holy Rosary twice daily for other causes and yourself), The Holy Rosary Prayer Card from your Parish that shows all of Jesus illustrations of His Stations of The Cross in which He gave up His Life for you and I and every one of His Children Pat. If you wish to come closer to Jesus and Mother Mary to feel His Love and have His Wisdom Guidance and Strength flow through you to love and feel happier and joyous about Life; then get cracking and do some leg work tomorrow picking up these things that are going to turn your Life around! Jesus is Calling you through Life Changes to undertake some incredibly powerful Callings for Him.

A third of the way through myself and it all occurred through praying The Holy Rosaries twice daily to Jesus and Our Holy Mother Mary!

Take up swimming twice weekly and lift bar bells and dum bells as a muscle in the arm triggers the brain to assist in lifting depression (if you do not have neck or back problems).

Get a dog and discipline yourself walking morning and night or ask your neighbour if you can walk their dog!

Go to Mass through the week joining the Holy Rosary Group to meet others and attend Reconciliation twice weekly in addition to the weekend Reconciliation; this will keep you busy and do not miss the regularity of doing this. It is for Jesus to work through you and assist your current temporary situation.

“Ask and Ye shall receive” if you all believe (having full trust and full confidence in Jesus and Mother Mary). We are His Children, He is Our Heavenly Father, Our Lady Mary our Mother. Simple and Literal. Jesus is watching us along with Mother Mary. He is waiting for you to regularly pray and ask for His help as He has taught us through His Bible Scriptures, Churches and His Apostles, His Holy Appointed Pope, Bishops, Priests Brothers and Christian Clergy. If you fail to ask for His Help at the 11th Hour Pat; you have turned your back on Jesus when He died for you! After a few days of praying The Holy Rosaries twice a day and three times a day; whatever you are able to do; Miracles will occur if you believe, if you trust and place full confidence in Jesus and Our Lady Mary. The absolute Truth from a Wife and Mother who has been through a great deal in Life!

While you are receiving Jesus and Mother Mary’s Love, Wisdom,Guidance and Strength, a few suggestions for you to undertake Pat;

Join a Lone Fathers support Group pronto or the separated or divorced group within the Catholic Parish; be strong and go along; many people are in the same boat!

Join a Fundraising International Company in a small role for the organisation to get you out of home to focus your mind on a project assisting others in impoverished countries and locally.

Assist at any Riding for the Disabled Group or with a Charity Group who you know are able to use your wonderful skills

Mow Lawns for the Elderly in your spare time

These are only a few things in which you can try to get out of the home daily to keep busy!

Take off and travel overseas if there is money to do so; visiting some long lost relatives!