Do Traditionalists not like Evangelization?

[ericcantona71]

Why don’t Traditionalists ever talk much about the New Evangelization called for by Paul VI and John Paul II? Don’t they see the need for this? Do they think the New Evangelization teaching is heretical?

Why do Traditionalists seem so problem focused!

 

[nobeerinheaven]

I don’t think any faithful Catholics are opposed to evangelization, but you might put it this way - before you put your house on the market, you clean it up and make it look the best that it can look, right? When everything is in order, it will be an easy sell.

 

[Pious_Mat]

Actually, most traditionalists I know do a great deal of evangelizing. It must be said that evangelization is something we do not something we talk about. Nobody was ever converted by drawn-out, august, overly-intellectualized rhetoric on Evangelization and “new” Evangelization.

Although I like the idea, I don’t particularly like the title “new” Evangelization, since our Evangelization is done in the same spirit and with the same aims as Saint Paul’s. On the other hand, the means are constantly changing, making “new” redundant.

That said, I (and most other people) have a deep affection for JP2, and applaud his call to Evangelize. But it seems to me that some people, often those who are somewhat more “progressive” talk incessantly about the New Evangelization without ever making an effort to Evangelize. This must be guarded against.

As to why traditionalists sometimes seem to focused on problems: the Church today is riddled with problems, and we’re never going to fix them if we don’t address them. Granted, one cannot become obsessed with them, but one cannot fix a problem one does not acknowledge.

In Christ,

Mat.

 

[I_Believe]

The focus is on the truth HMC has taught century after century. Traditionalists hold dear what builds faith. What many don’t understand, is that there are those in the Curia this very day that share the concerns of traditionalists and, of late, have voiced their opinions. Archbishop Ranjith has recently expressed concern on receiving Communion in the hand.

Pope BXVI’s Motu Proprio has freed the 1962 Mass. Traditionalists have long been labeled “renegade catholics” for refusing to discard the 1962 Mass. The impression was given that the Novus Ordo replaced it. We now see, without a doubt, the 1962 Mass was never abrogated. God Bless BXVI for removing the stigma.

There is no Salvation outside the Catholic Church. When Catholics are taught this, and then it appears that there has been an about face on this, concerns arise.

Defending HMC against Modernism, Rationalism, and error in teaching is not a laity specific task. It is not the banner of traditionalists. The Church has been fighting Her enemies from day one.

Traditional Catholicism is not to be blamed for the current crisis in the Church. Traditionalists are not the ones causing division. They are only defending the Doctrine of HMC. If they are to be scorned for their level of devotion to the Truth, so be it.

 

[Freshman88]

No traditionalist is against evangelization.

The reason this may appear to be so is because in North America and especially the states, Catholics feel an urge to be like their successful evangelical/non-denom neighbours.

There seems to be a focus on competing with these protestants, and that they only way to do so is to change various aspects of Catholicism. Often I hear the old absurd quote that “I wouldn’t have joined the Church if the mass was in Latin”. Thus the attiude arises that we should be more like evangelicals if we are to convert them and compete with them.

There is also the problem of ecumenicalism and evangelization. It seems to me that many evangelical Catholics prefer things such as common prayer worship and the like. Not something we can be particularly fond of.

 

[EddieArent]

No, not at all. We do live the best we can. Perhaps some places (more than others) can live out the faith in a more public way, e.g. more walking pilgrimages, processions through the streets, etc. We can never be happy with the status quo. This is not only a battle for our soul, but the souls of others in which we hope those away from Christ will have their hearts eventually illuminated with the Love of our God.

 

[brigid12]

Actually, most traditionalists I know do a great deal of evangelizing. It must be said that evangelization is something we do not something we talk about. Nobody was ever converted by drawn-out, august, overly-intellectualized rhetoric on Evangelization and “new” Evangelization.

Although I like the idea, I don’t particularly like the title “new” Evangelization, since our Evangelization is done in the same spirit and with the same aims as Saint Paul’s. On the other hand, the means are constantly changing, making “new” redundant.

That said, I (and most other people) have a deep affection for JP2, and applaud his call to Evangelize. But it seems to me that some people, often those who are somewhat more “progressive” talk incessantly about the New Evangelization without ever making an effort to Evangelize. This must be guarded against.

As to why traditionalists sometimes seem to focused on problems: the Church today is riddled with problems, and we’re never going to fix them if we don’t address them. Granted, one cannot become obsessed with them, but one cannot fix a problem one does not acknowledge.

In Christ,

Mat.

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