Do we feast on St. Patrick's day

[Famulus]

Can we feast today since it’s St Patrick’s Feast day, even though it’s not a solemnity, or is that reserved for solemnities during lent?

 

[Tis_Bearself]

You’re RC according to your profile, and this is a Tuesday (not a Friday in Lent, not Ash Wednesday, and not Good Friday), so according to the Church you can eat whatever you want today. There are no food restrictions for Tuesdays, whether in Lent or outside Lent.

The only required fast days in the year for RCs are Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. This is neither of those.

When St. Patrick’s Day falls on a Friday, the bishops in certain US dioceses often give dispensations from the Friday abstinence so people can eat meat as part of their celebrations, but like I said, this is Tuesday, so no dispensation is needed.

 

[DisorientingSneeze]

If you can find feast-worthy food where you are. We aren’t about to starve here but shopping to prepare a feast just isn’t happening.

 

[Irishmom2]

Got my feast cooking now with food that was on sale last week!

 

[dochawk]

so according to the Church you can eat whatever you want today.

besides, eating corned beef is borderline penitential!

I’m Irish, but, yikes, what a fatty and slimy dish has been thrust upon us.

The best corned beef I’ve ever had (in fact, the only that was really good), was a few years ago at a KofC function where Costco ran out and filled the orders with a better cut with corned beef seasoning . . .

have I mentioned that it’s fatty and slimy, and makes me queasy unless I cut most of it out/

 

[Irishmom2]

Uh, let me see, @dochawk… yes, I think you may have mentioned it. Did I mention I cut all of that off too?

Corned beef is delicious for Reuben sandwiches though!

 

[Tis_Bearself]

besides, eating corned beef is borderline penitential!

I’m Irish, but, yikes, what a fatty and slimy dish has been thrust upon us.

I’m aware it is a Jewish dish. The Irish-Americans would cook it on wash days when they needed boiled dinner.
Usually I get some good corned beef from a few bars I know that serve it.

This year, being in an area where all the bars are closed and where I am not aware of an awesome corned beef deli (on the order of Katz in NYC or Slymans in Cleveland, etc…there probably is one around here but I just don’t know where it is) I ordered a corned beef sandwich from my local deli, which turned out to be run by an older Asian couple.

It and the accompanying fries were indeed penitential to eat. It tasted like Arbys and the fries tasted like the frozen out of a bag kind. I consoled myself by thinking that I probably helped a small business as I understand that not only are the small businesses hurting, but the ones run by Chinese, Koreans, etc are hurting the worst because some people have been avoiding them for fear of coronavirus.

Hopefully when this all blows over I will either find a great corned beef deli in this county, or find myself in the vicinity of Slymans or Katz again.

 

[dochawk]

Uh, let me see, @dochawk… yes, I think you may have mentioned it. Did I mention I cut all of that off too?

Even cut off and trimmed, there’s still too much

Corned beef is delicious for Reuben sandwiches though!

By that point, though, the meat has been cleaned a couple of times, refrigerated, and most of the slime has fallen off, with the rest at least potentially trimable.

I’m aware it is a Jewish dish. The Irish-Americans would cook it on wash days when they needed boiled dinner.

Actually, I hadn’t been aware of that. I had though that all of our crummy food was English doing . . .


I’m still convinced that when you find good corned beef, it’s because they used a different meat . . .

 

[Phemie]

Irishmom2:

Uh, let me see, @dochawk… yes, I think you may have mentioned it. Did I mention I cut all of that off too?

Even cut off and trimmed, there’s still too much

Corned beef is delicious for Reuben sandwiches though!

By that point, though, the meat has been cleaned a couple of times, refrigerated, and most of the slime has fallen off, with the rest at least potentially trimable.

I’m aware it is a Jewish dish. The Irish-Americans would cook it on wash days when they needed boiled dinner.

Actually, I hadn’t been aware of that. I had though that all of our crummy food was English doing . . .


I’m still convinced that when you find good corned beef, it’s because they used a different meat . . .

I used to get really good corned beef from a butcher who also smoked his own hams. Not much fat on his product. Now I live in an area where Jigg”s dinner is the go-to dish. That’s a boiled dinner with salt beef and that is super fatty. A pound of the stuff might produce 5 ounces of edible meat. I couldn’t get my dad to understand that corned beef and salt beef wasn’t the same thing.

 

[Pattylt]

I’m still convinced that when you find good corned beef, it’s because they used a different meat

Stick with a Jewish deli that’s kosher! I’ve never associate corned beef and slimy in the same sentence but I’ve never eaten non kosher corned beef, either…so, it must be something the Irish did to it!

My grandma made a corned beef to die for (said with Yiddish accent, please). It was heavenly and on a nice Jewish rye bread and some awesome mustard…ooooh, it’s gooooood!

 

[dochawk]

After many years, my favorite sandwich changed from Togo’s pastrami, to their pastrami reuben . . . now somehow make a long roll of Jewish rye, and I’ll switch again!

 

[Pattylt]

Hmmm, I’ve made rye bread many times…in loaf and rounds but not long rolls. I should give it a try! :hugs:

 

[Irishmom2]

You’ve got the time now!

 

[Thrstypirate]

My family has enough left over that I’m making corned beef hash for breakfast with eggs tomorrow.

As part of our temporary “home schooling” I had my daughter bake Irish soda bread from scratch for “home ec.” . It was so good that we’re adding it to the rotation.

 

[RN69]

I love corned beef and cabbage but cook mine in a traditional pressure cooker. You need to skim off the foam which I guess is what you refer to as slime. Best cut is not brisket which is fatty but the round. That is harder to find where I am. I’ve known this meal as New England boiled dinner. This year I am having corned beef hash circa 2019! I made it from leftovers last March and froze hash into patties. I didn’t shop early enough for it and wasn’t going to risk a trip to the market. Self isolating due to age and medical conditions. Not complaining because I still have food I eat and feel blessed.

 

[dochawk]

You need to skim off the foam which I guess is what you refer to as slime.

Oh, no. I mean the large gobs that the foam tries to congeal upon

And I’d kind of managed to block the cabbage out of memory . . .

 

[RN69]

Maybe that’s because I do the meat separately in the pressure cooker first then skim/strain liquid. Vegetables are cooked in the liquid but in a separate pot. This way my veggies aren’t slimey or too mushy. I realize being retired that I have the time to cook it this way. A good corned beef on rye sandwich from a deli would be wonderful but I don’t have that option.

 

[dochawk]

many otherwise, err, inedible things can be saved by cooking differently.

I recall an amazingly cheap pork shoulder I put in the smoker some decades ago . . . and such cuts tend to smell wonderful as they cook so long . . .

 

[rangerdillon]

I love corned beef in crock pot on low for 8 hours. Throw in some cabbage and potatoes for a true feast (imho). I also like to make a soda bread to have with it.

Sadly, this year was noting special.

 

[twf]

Yes, this is all true… but to answer the “spirit” of the OP’s question, today was a day of penance. No, the Latin Church doesn’t impose a particular mandatory discipline of fasting or abstinence, but canon law still defines all the weekdays of Lent as universal days of penance. So while we may have feasted today, the liturgical “spirit” of the day is more one of fasting than feasting. Some may have abstained from any number of things in keeping with the Lenten spirit.

This Thursday, on the other hand, the feast of St Joseph, is NOT a day of penance and is a true day of feasting in every sense of the word.