Do we need some updating?

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Oh, the Old Colonel is slow these days. I certainly like 19th century hymns.
 
glorybe said:
Trying to figure out how to delete this because it wasn’t meant for Deacon Jeff
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Next to “Reply” in your post, click on the … (three dots/ellipsis) icon and a garbage can will appear. Click on the garbage can and it will delete your post.
 
TheOldColonel said:
How would you respond to one who says the Bible and the Church are “outdated”?
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I don’t. It’s just an excuse to bag the Catholic Church, refute religion and find reasons to point to why all priests are paedophiles
 
They are not trolling here. We cannot abuse the flag system
 
Very well said. Especially: “That is the number one problem in our society today, an unwillingness to accept authority in our lives.”

The Dictatorship of Relativism, as Pope Benedict called it, is indeed real. And for some, they get to dictate what others should think or believe while ignoring authority and those teachings they don’t like. God is God. And God wants what is best for us no matter how many rebel.
 
SeriousQuestion said:
Do you have any suggestion? We could sure use them.
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I usually ask for specific examples of what the person feels is outdated about the Church, then I try explain carefully why the teaching of the Church and what the Bible says about the topic is still very relevant.

Three common topics these people tend to bring up are marriage (why gay marriages are not allowed), priests (why women aren’t allowed to be priests) and passages in the Bible where women are told to be subordinate to men like the Letter of Saint Paul to the Ephesians, Chapter 5, verses 22-24.
 
Last time the Church tried to “update” we got the “Spirit of Vatican II” abuses.
 
I’m sure they’ll find plenty of Protestant denominations out there that will be more to their liking.

Our church/faith doesn’t need to change a thing regardless of the cultural fad du jour.
 
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Tis_Bearself said:
Why was this flagged? Whether one agrees with it or not, I’m not seeing the TOS violation here.
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He seems to have admitted to being a troll. Notably, his account his new, so it might just be a sock puppet for that other troll who kept attacking Vatican II. We seem to be getting a lot of those trolls who see if they can get away by playing to what they perceive to be the sympathies of the forum or just throw a temper tantrum when a lot of users don’t agree with them.

Ultimately, someone may gone through and flagged all his stuff for that, considering every post of his is flagged.
 
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YouTube is being funny by putting the ad for the after-church snack before the music that should be played at church.
 
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If it is moral teachings that a person is wanting “updated”, I would respond that moral truths are just that and can never change. This is actually what made my family look into the Catholic Church in the first place…we knew that only a false church would change God’s Truths to suit the wants of society.
 
Yet, the Catholicity of the Church, despite its own unity, means it is not entirely separate from the splintering of denominations. For millions of Protestants are in some degree of unity with the Catholic Church through the One Baptism into the One Lord. The existing disunity is a splintery of the Body of Christ, His Church on earth. This is why, when a Baptized Protestant is recieved into the Catholic Church this is rightly called “Coming into Full Communion.” For these Baptized Protestants are not Converts. That term is reserved by the Church for Catechumens only.
 
But would we truly suggest they start going to ecclesial communities and forsake the Catholc Church? Such a possibility comes with grave moral consequence. Surely, there is a more charitable response than to fancy their absence among us. I certainly do not wish to arrive at the judgement seat of Christ to learn that I, through stubbornness, pride and arrogance, have been the cause of others leaving the Church. Surely, such sins against charity and unity are no small matter to the Lord.
 
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