Do we really want another 500 years of division between Catholics and Protestants?

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Protestants and Catholics together; do we really want another 500 years of division between Catholics and Protestants? We can discuss whatever you want on this issue since we agree on the Apostles Creed, Nicene Creed, and Jesus is Lord; therefore, at the end of the day, we are simply just siblings in Christ. Honest discussion is the first step for Christian unity. What would you like to discuss on this issue?
 
I do think that there are many common goals that Catholics and Protestants can work together to accomplish to make our society and our world a better place. However, a large part of being Catholic is obedience to the Church and its teachings; i.e. the Magisterium and the Pope. Disobedience is at the origin of Protestantism. So while I think most Catholics are open to working with peoples of all faiths, true unity can only come about with humility and obedience.
 
coachkfan1 said:
I do think that there are many common goals that Catholics and Protestants can work together to accomplish to make our society and our world a better place. However, a large part of being Catholic is obedience to the Church and its teachings; i.e. the Magisterium and the Pope. Disobedience is at the origin of Protestantism. So while I think most Catholics are open to working with peoples of all faiths, true unity can only come about with humility and obedience.
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Do you believe Catholics and Protestants have the same God? If so, can both Christian groups share the gospel to those who do not know God through Jesus Christ? I don’t think Protestants believe they are disobedient to God by not submitting to the Magisterium. It seems Protestants and Catholics have a much bigger agenda than just making our society and world a better place. It seems we both share the common goal of obedience to the Great Commission in how we understand the Christian Faith according to our Christian conscience. These are just thoughts to think and ponder on.
 
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Do you believe Catholics and Protestants have the same God? If so, can both Christian groups share the gospel to those who do not know God through Jesus Christ?
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The problem with this is that, when two side claiming to represent the same God present conflicting views and opinions on the same Scripture, people don’t take the Scriptures seriously and therefore do not gain the benefits of them. This is why the Catholic Church exists. This is why the Magesterium exists, and this is why the protestants will never be doing as much good as they -could- be doing if they were to realign themselves with the one True Church that Jesus Christ himself started.
I don’t think Protestants believe they are disobedient to God by not submitting to the Magisterium.
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They may not think it, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t. You can say 2+2 is five all you want, it’ll still be four at the end of the day.
 
The various Protestant churches owe their existance to rebellion and disagreement.
If we cannot come to agreement on doctrine how can we have unity?
 
Christendom will never agree on the same final authority for the next 500 years. Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants understand that final authority comes from our same God. However, we disagree on how our God reveals His authority and will to His adopted children. Do you believe Christendom should be divided for the next 500 years in the same way that has been for the last 500 years?
 
as long as theres no central authority, doctrinal chaos will prevail.
 
Glomung said:
The various Protestant churches owe their existance to rebellion and disagreement.
If we cannot come to agreement on doctrine how can we have unity?
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Couldn’t the Eastern Orthodox Church (Great Schism) say something very similar in what you posted about the Catholic Church? The original Protestant Reformers did not see the reformation as a rebellion; rather, they were being obedient to our God according to their own conscience before God. All three branches claim that their exclusive beliefs have the equation of 2 + 2 = 4. All three branches are united on the Apostles Creed and Nicene Creed, and Jesus is Lord… therefore, we already have essential unity to what it means to be Christian. I don’t think anyone denies the other of the name Christian, right?
 
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Couldn’t the Eastern Orthodox Church (Great Schism) say something very similar in what you posted about the Catholic Church? The original Protestant Reformers did not see the reformation as a rebellion; rather, they were being obedient to our God according to their own conscience before God. All three branches claim that their exclusive beliefs have the equation of 2 + 2 = 4. All three branches are united on the Apostles Creed and Nicene Creed, and Jesus is Lord… therefore, we already have essential unity to what it means to be Christian. I don’t think anyone denies the other of the name Christian, right?
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With the protestant reformations, they all made a choice to reject the teachings of the Catholic Church in favor of their own interpretations. Had they left it at “let’s clean up the corruption,” it wouldn’t have been a big deal; but instead they decided “hey, let’s change the meanings of some of this, and take out some books that disagree with us, so that the Bible will suit our interpretation of it.”

That’s the underlying logic behind every protestant sect, ever.
 
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Protestants and Catholics together; do we really want another 500 years of division between Catholics and Protestants? We can discuss whatever you want on this issue since we agree on the Apostles Creed, Nicene Creed, and Jesus is Lord; therefore, at the end of the day, we are simply just siblings in Christ. Honest discussion is the first step for Christian unity. What would you like to discuss on this issue?
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I believe.
  1. I believe in the Holy Spirit,
  2. the holy catholic Church,
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We Believe…
In one holy catholic and apostolic Church; we acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; we look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
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Do you agree that the Apostles Creed was not written by the Apostles and is a Creed that states “I” Believe…

My brother…tell me what you believe about these Creeds as it concerns the one holy catholic and apostolic Church…that we believe in and the one baptism for the remission of sins.🙂
Do you agree that the Nicene Creed/Constantinople Creed is a Creed that states “we” Believe is a Creed written by Authority and is a Creed of the Catholic Bishops.

Have you read Moby Dick?

How many Protestants have read Moby Dick?
 
CopticChristian said:
Have you read Moby Dick?

How many Protestants have read Moby Dick?
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I agree with the rest of this, but you lost me with the Moby Dick reference. Are you relating it to her desire for Catholics to reject their teachings so we can all get along?
 
Christian_Unity said:
Do you believe Catholics and Protestants have the same God? If so, can both Christian groups share the gospel to those who do not know God through Jesus Christ? I don’t think Protestants believe they are disobedient to God by not submitting to the Magisterium. It seems Protestants and Catholics have a much bigger agenda than just making our society and world a better place. **It seems we both share the common goal of obedience to the Great Commission in how we understand the Christian Faith according to our Christian conscience. ** These are just thoughts to think and ponder on.
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CU,

We accept that our conscience must constantly be formed…be transformed by the renewal of your mind…and that the condscience should conform to Revelation…not invention.
 
Christian_Unity said:
Christendom will never agree on the same final authority for the next 500 years. Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants understand that final authority comes from our same God. However, we disagree on how our God reveals His authority and will to His adopted children. Do you believe Christendom should be divided for the next 500 years in the same way that has been for the last 500 years?
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CU,

Then please change your Monikor to Christian Disunity…😃
 
Christian_Unity said:
Christendom will never agree on the same final authority for the next 500 years. Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants understand that final authority comes from our same God. However, we disagree on how our God reveals His authority and will to His adopted children. Do you believe Christendom should be divided for the next 500 years in the same way that has been for the last 500 years?/
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Christian_Unity said:
**Couldn’t the Eastern Orthodox Church (Great Schism) say something very similar in what you posted about the Catholic Church? ** The original Protestant Reformers did not see the reformation as a rebellion; rather, they were being obedient to our God according to their own conscience before God. All three branches claim that their exclusive beliefs have the equation of 2 + 2 = 4. All three branches are united on the Apostles Creed and Nicene Creed, and Jesus is Lord… therefore, we already have essential unity to what it means to be Christian. I don’t think anyone denies the other of the name Christian, right?
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CU,

Oriental Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox have not dismembered and stolen the Bible and retain 7 sacraments. Protestants did no reform, they deformed.😃
 
Christian_Unity said:
Couldn’t the Eastern Orthodox Church (Great Schism) say something very similar in what you posted about the Catholic Church? The original Protestant Reformers did not see the reformation as a rebellion; rather, they were being obedient to our God according to their own conscience before God. All three branches claim that their exclusive beliefs have the equation of 2 + 2 = 4. All three branches are united on the Apostles Creed and Nicene Creed, and Jesus is Lord… therefore, we already have essential unity to what it means to be Christian. I don’t think anyone denies the other of the name Christian, right?
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CU,

The paradigm that is operating in the OHCAC is that the Church is Catholic, Oriental Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox and all those baptized in the Trinitarian Formula that would include ecclesial communities that lack Church organization that conforms to the authority from which they sprang. While I accept you as Christian…your thoughts and beliefs have to be measured against what has been revealed.

When you tout Calvinism, this is invention, not revelation and must be rejected.

How many Sacraments do you accept and why do you accept that men can discard 5?
 
Unity! It would be great if all of Christianity was united, meaning one Christian religion group.

Sadly, it appears that Protestant Christians are not entirely opened to want to fully learn what Catholicism truly is.
 
ProdglArchitect said:
With the protestant reformations, they all made a choice to reject the teachings of the Catholic Church in favor of their own interpretations. Had they left it at “let’s clean up the corruption,” it wouldn’t have been a big deal; but instead they decided “hey, let’s change the meanings of some of this, and take out some books that disagree with us, so that the Bible will suit our interpretation of it.”

That’s the underlying logic behind every protestant sect, ever.
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That IS what they wanted.
May I remind you that ML never wanted or intended to separate from the church. He was forced to leave. It just went down hill from there. All events should have been anticipated if the hierarchy at the time wasn’t so self serving, and greedy. But then that is family room chair quarterbacking. I am very glad things changed.
 
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