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thursday63
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I just posted on a non catholic website that works are very important to our sanctification.
Am I right or wrong?
Am I right or wrong?
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misstherese
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Yes of course! As we grow in virtue, we grow in holiness.
Works are meritorious only in the state of grace.
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goout
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Sure of course. Many things contribute to our sanctification.
One of the purposes of our literal work (jobs) is to sanctify us. The work is done for the sake of doing it with excellence, for the glory of God and the benefit of our fellow man. Compensation is truly secondary in that light.
The work of a marriage partner is to help the spouse to heaven. That can be very hard work (but not for me cause my wife is the best
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Grace and work are not in opposition to one another, they are part of the same response of faith.
One of the purposes of our literal work (jobs) is to sanctify us. The work is done for the sake of doing it with excellence, for the glory of God and the benefit of our fellow man. Compensation is truly secondary in that light.
The work of a marriage partner is to help the spouse to heaven. That can be very hard work (but not for me cause my wife is the best
)Grace and work are not in opposition to one another, they are part of the same response of faith.
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OsculeturMeOsculo
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I think it is the love that motivates these works that truly sanctify us.
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goout
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Goes hand in hand. Love is the source and summit.
Sometimes work that is not done initially out of love can serve to open the door to love
Sometimes work that is not done initially out of love can serve to open the door to love
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gcshapero
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Absolutely. Work is extremely important for sanctification and virtuous. Even just the suffering aspect that can be found in work is very important for our souls.
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Vico
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Yes, three sanctifications: baptism, lifelong becoming Christlike, entry to heaven (Beatific Vision).
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BlackFriar
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You need to distinguish two types of sanctification.
(a) Being saved (Baptism, Confession)
(b) Merit (Good works, Communion etc)
One you have been brought into a graced state you can merit more grace through good works.
But if you lose grace altogether then you are spiritually paralysed (a state of mortal sin) and can do nothing for yourself.
Its a bit like a car with a flat battery.
Once someone else has started you (God) you can keep ongoing by your own indwelling engine
(a) Being saved (Baptism, Confession)
(b) Merit (Good works, Communion etc)
One you have been brought into a graced state you can merit more grace through good works.
But if you lose grace altogether then you are spiritually paralysed (a state of mortal sin) and can do nothing for yourself.
Its a bit like a car with a flat battery.
Once someone else has started you (God) you can keep ongoing by your own indwelling engine
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dochawk
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both.
Your theology is correct.
Arguing that issue on that kind of forum is an utter waste of time.
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Reuben_J
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Yes. We are called to do good work; without it, we’ll be short of what the Lord wants of us.
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Dan_Defender
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Very true. ‘What does it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faith but has not works? Can his faith save him? If a brother or sister is ill-clad and in lack of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what does it profit? So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead.’ James 2:14-17
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thursday63
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I am learning that fast.
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fhansen
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Our cooperation with grace-with God-sanctifies us. We’re expected to respond to His calling us to act, out of love, by feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, spreading the good news to a lost and dying world, etc. These are the works He’s prepared for us as per Eph 2:10. Read the Parable of the Talents to get a description of how this is to play out. Gal 5:6 also sheds light: "The only thing that counts is faith working through love."
Because love is the essence of man’s justice, Matt 25:31-46 can tell us that we’ll be judged based on what we did “for the least of these”. So the Church actually teaches, quoting St John of the Cross, "At the evening of life we shall be judged on our love."
Because love is the essence of man’s justice, Matt 25:31-46 can tell us that we’ll be judged based on what we did “for the least of these”. So the Church actually teaches, quoting St John of the Cross, "At the evening of life we shall be judged on our love."
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hymin
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“faith that worketh by charity” (Gal 5:6)
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Seagull
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NOT sinful works - from self a centered ambition and greed.
But good works ? Without question ! Yes ! Daily !
That was Mother Teresa’s calling card - good works -
The Muslims and Hindus - all saw it -
But good works ? Without question ! Yes ! Daily !
That was Mother Teresa’s calling card - good works -
The Muslims and Hindus - all saw it -
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fhansen
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There can be another cause for confusion here. Most Protestants believe that justification and sanctification are separated, that we’re sanctified, but not until after we’re already justified/saved. So that sanctification plays no part in whether or not we reach heaven; it’s only the result of being saved, not a cause. But Catholics believe that a person, once justified (formally at Baptism), must continue to walk in God’s ways, responding to His grace, being sanctified and growing in more justice yet. If we’re not following God and being transformed into His image day by day, we’re probably not in a state of justice anymore. If we lost that state, by mortal sin, we’re to be reconciled with God again, through the sacrament of reconciliation, which, if we’ve sincerely had a change of heart, puts us back into communion with Him where we can continue our walk together.
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