Do you agree that the devil hates Catholics more than anyone else??

[manualman]

In all seriousness, I think that history suggests that Satan hates Jews more than any other group on earth. There’s no other reasonable explanation for their history. Oppressed by Egyptians, Phillistines, Babylonians, Romans, Christians, Nazis, Communists, Muslims. Have they ever NOT been oppressed by their neighbors? The fact that they still exist at all is basically proof that God exists!

But I think your reasoning is on track. The motive is the same as y’all suspect. And he seems to have plenty of hatred to go around…

 

[racing59]

Apparently, she wasn’t blessed when she shared the Faith with you, though. Don’t take that the wrong way. Bet she’s up there now, praying for you.

No offense, but you don’t know what your talking about. My Mom was blessed because I try to live a good Christian life, I let my actions speak louder than my words I didn’t come here to air any grivances I have, I came to learn and fellowship. Just because I’m not Catholic does not mean my Mom was not blessed. I have a question for you: Have you ever had a child malested? I have! end of discusssion!

 

[distracted]

Hi distracted, My Mom (God bless her Saintly Soul), was Catholic. Funny thing is she seemed always to get blessed even when she shared her faith with others. Go figure!

i have found that when i do things for others, i always get blessed in some unexpected way…

but then i am blessed all the time without always fully realizing it… just by having the Catholic faith…

but then that makes it harder to live in a world where others do NOT. … long story…

so wht religion are you?

 

[distracted]

No offense, but you don’t know what your talking about. My Mom was blessed because I try to live a good Christian life, I let my actions speak louder than my words I didn’t come here to air any grivances I have, I came to learn and fellowship. Just because I’m not Catholic does not mean my Mom was not blessed. I have a question for you: Have you ever had a child malested? I have! end of discusssion!

I’m sorry… very.

don’t pay attention to some posters who are kind of… not too polite or wahtever… There are plenty of them here…

i know protestants who seem far more Christ-like than many oftheCatholics i know… maybe sometimes even including me… There’s just something about being Catholic… just difficult and whtever… and again, the devil attacks… i feel the whole non-C world misunderstands me and even Catholics do as well… because i am more… serious than many Catholics i know…meaning i don’t want to just sit around talking about mundane things and not doing much to change the world… that annoys some catholics i know… not trying to sound holier than thou… because i know i am a big sinner… i just wish people would stop focusing on temporal things… Tehy seem to be spiritual only in Church during the Mass… guess i just need to pray about that… but was trying to save most of my praying for the un-christianized… Ahhhh!! the work never ends…!!

hmmm… anyway… God bless…

 

[distracted]

Jesus said that the gates of Hell would not prevail agaisnt his Church… (st mt 16:18) .but that doesn’t mean Satan is going to give up trying to prevail… and he deosn’t.

i often wonder if he is very surprised at the success he has had… i know i kind of am… i look around and see liberal priests (contradiction in terms)… i see people who don’tbelieve in Hell or act and live like they don’t… people who put down Catholics who live the way they are supposed to… etc but oh well… Jesus said that few woiuld make it … to heaven… so i guess that explains it.

so we all need to keep praying for the sinners… .the rosary is the best prayer after the Mass…

the reason thedevil hates the Ctholic Church so much is because it DOES have power over him… and because the RCC has the full truth of Christ… it is missing nothing…

the Real Presence… he hates that… apparently plenty of Catholics do too??? i don’t see many spending much timeThere…

 

[Middleman]

Distracted, seriously man, you sound like you are using the Devil as an excuse, and that the personal failures of yourself and other Catholics are actually proof of your righteousness. Your postings here sound contradictory. The Church is the holiest and has the fullness of the truth, but because Catholics are on the Devil’s hit list, they don’t measure up. Protestants only seem holier because of this, it has nothing to do with their relationship with Jesus Christ, but because the Devil likes to trip up Catholics more.

 

[racing59]

i have found that when i do things for others, i always get blessed in some unexpected way…

but then i am blessed all the time without always fully realizing it… just by having the Catholic faith…

but then that makes it harder to live in a world where others do NOT. … long story…

so wht religion are you?

Hi distracted, I appreciate your post. I do not belong to any religion. My wife and I worship God in nature. I can see some beautiful things about your faith in the Catholic Mass. I for one have not come to the same insights that you have, I still have a lot of questions. I guess you can say I’m Christian in philosiphy. We try to live a good Christian life and take care of the animals, God has blessed us with.

 

[thirdn6]

15 I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel." Genesis 3:15 RSV

To answer your question… Yes, it has always been since the beginning of Catholicism.:crutches:

Peace. But Truth is more important…

 

[distracted]

Hi distracted, I appreciate your post. I do not belong to any religion. My wife and I worship God in nature. I can see some beautiful things about your faith in the Catholic Mass. I for one have not come to the same insights that you have, I still have a lot of questions. I guess you can say I’m Christian in philosiphy. We try to live a good Christian life and take care of the animals, God has blessed us with.

thanks…

what about Ctholicism do you not believe or understand?

also… my position is that we should care for humans before animals… Wehn there are no more starving people or aborted peope… i will turn my attention to animals… Yes, animals can seem more likable sometimes (to some, not necessarily me)… becaue they don’t do evil… but humans are created in God’s image and so when we kill them (abortion) we are killing God (St Mt 25:31)

hope you don’t take this as argumentative… just my thoughts on the subject…

how long have you been investigating Catholicsm?? are you in RCIA??

 

[distracted]

15 I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel." Genesis 3:15 RSV

To answer your question… Yes, it has always been since the beginning of Catholicism.:crutches:

Peace. But Truth is more important…

i sometimes think everyone hates everyone. some philosopher said once that people naturally hate one another… sure seems true to me…

but we can overcome “nature” … with the Church.

the Spirit of Christ is always there.

 

[racing59]

thanks…

what about Ctholicism do you not believe or understand?

also… my position is that we should care for humans before animals… Wehn there are no more starving people or aborted peope… i will turn my attention to animals… Yes, animals can seem more likable sometimes (to some, not necessarily me)… becaue they don’t do evil… but humans are created in God’s image and so when we kill them (abortion) we are killing God (St Mt 25:31)

hope you don’t take this as argumentative… just my thoughts on the subject…

how long have you been investigating Catholicsm?? are you in RCIA??

Lol I take no offense at your statement about humans. Yes my wife and I take care of humans too. We give to the poor and homeless bring food to our neighbors, we just have a lot of animals too. I’m not in RCIA, but I have studied Catholism for years. I have a problem with claims of only Truth and the only one. It is my problem. My mother was a craddle Catholic whom lived a good fruitful life. She was very dedicated to the Church and serving mankind. Of any Catholic I have ever met she was an example of how to be. Catholicsm intrigues me, but I have reservations. I have found many Scriptures the Catholic Church has no official stance on. I ask too many questions such as where did Mrs.Cain come from ? I believe the devil hates all of mankind, because all man was created in God’s image not just a chosen few. That there were actually 14 Apostle (Mathias was elected and Paul), why then did Apostles stop? My understanding is Apostolic Succession is not the same thing. These are just a few questions that have not been answered. My biggest problem is I dwell to deep in Scriptures, that makes most people uncomfortable.

 

[joann1957]

Lol I take no offense at your statement about humans. Yes my wife and I take care of humans too. We give to the poor and homeless bring food to our neighbors, we just have a lot of animals too. I’m not in RCIA, but I have studied Catholism for years. I have a problem with claims of only Truth and the only one. It is my problem. My mother was a craddle Catholic whom lived a good fruitful life. She was very dedicated to the Church and serving mankind. Of any Catholic I have ever met she was an example of how to be. Catholicsm intrigues me, but I have reservations. I have found many Scriptures the Catholic Church has no official stance on. I ask too many questions such as where did Mrs.Cain come from ? I believe the devil hates all of mankind, because all man was created in God’s image not just a chosen few. That there were actually 14 Apostle (Mathias was elected and Paul), why then did Apostles stop? My understanding is Apostolic Succession is not the same thing. These are just a few questions that have not been answered. My biggest problem is I dwell to deep in Scriptures, that makes most people uncomfortable.

Hello, Im just curious as to what scriptures your are interpreting that you are having reservations with, as you do not say or list them.? I also believe to understand and or interprete Catholism one has to study history first then doctrine…

Apostles stop.? dont comprehend the statement, as God has sent his messengers , angels and Saints to continue his message. It is nice to dwell deep into the Scriptures, but its how one interprets them with wisdom and understanding through the Holy Spirit. Catholics tend not to cherry pic at scripture as we take the bible as Gods whole word as it is truly God breathed.

Joann

Joann

 

[racing59]

Hello, Im just curious as to what scriptures your are interpreting that you are having reservations with, as you do not say or list them.? I also believe to understand and or interprete Catholism one has to study history first then doctrine…

Apostles stop.? dont comprehend the statement, as God has sent his messengers , angels and Saints to continue his message. It is nice to dwell deep into the Scriptures, but its how one interprets them with wisdom and understanding through the Holy Spirit. Catholics tend not to cherry pic at scripture as we take the bible as Gods whole word as it is truly God breathed.

Joann

Joann

Hi Joann, I agree that you can not cherry pic Scripture and you should study history first. This leads to some problems though. Example: I’m sure the American Indian Histoty of the developement of the Americas is a much different history than our version of history. This in itself can be problematic. I have studied history especially acient history which can change complexities of certain Scriptures. I have problems with not single verses but Chapters and even a book in Scripture. Genisis chapter 2-3 talk on the Tree of Life ( This is not the Tree of Knowledge) I have never found an official teaching on this and the Tree of Life in Genesis, Proverbs, Eziekiel, and Revelation. It is important enough to be in Scripture than why not revealed to the Church? Revelation I have studied a long with history, writtings of Josephus( Jewish historian),ect… yet this book too is incomplete in the Churches teaching. I’ve read books and tapes of Dr. Hahn,but he does not speak for the Church.Angles and saints have always been, they are not Apostles, which were selected in the beginning of the Church. It would seem to me election of Apostles should have kept going beyond Paul and Mathias. Bishop has a meaning than an Apostle. These are just a few of my Scriptures and questions.
Peace

 

[OneTrueCathApos]

Lol I take no offense at your statement about humans. Yes my wife and I take care of humans too. We give to the poor and homeless bring food to our neighbors, we just have a lot of animals too. I’m not in RCIA, but I have studied Catholism for years. I have a problem with claims of only Truth and the only one. It is my problem. My mother was a craddle Catholic whom lived a good fruitful life. She was very dedicated to the Church and serving mankind. Of any Catholic I have ever met she was an example of how to be. Catholicsm intrigues me, but I have reservations. I have found many Scriptures the Catholic Church has no official stance on. I ask too many questions such as where did Mrs.Cain come from ? I believe the devil hates all of mankind, because all man was created in God’s image not just a chosen few. That there were actually 14 Apostle (Mathias was elected and Paul), why then did Apostles stop? My understanding is Apostolic Succession is not the same thing. These are just a few questions that have not been answered. My biggest problem is I dwell to deep in Scriptures, that makes most people uncomfortable.

Why would it be that “Mrs. Cain” (as you worded it) and your thinking that there were 14 Apostles keep you from entering the Catholic church? I just can’t believe it would be by these two insignificant things that keep you away. There is so much more to Jesus Christ and His church He established that you are not focusing on. Jesus chose 12 Apostles and Paul was not one of them. He came a little later as Christ’s Disciple. A true follower of Christ. A man who was so repentant, so sorry for his persecutions against Christ. He truly suffered and agonized over what he had done. Paul is a disciple of hope. that even though he was a murderer, he was called by Christ.
And Mrs. Cain, why can’t it be that perhaps Cain met someone, possibly Eve had more childre? Maybe Cain went with his sister? who knows? Only God knows.

 

[1beleevr]

It seems to me that anyone associated with God, is detested by Satan; regardless of religious persuasion! As a 42 year follower of Christ Jesus(YIPPEE), I feel the Devil’s presence most, when I am preparing to do a good deed for God, i.e., witnessing, evangelizing, serving others in God’s name:thumbsup: To make a statement that one denomination or another is hated more, is to say said denomination is persecuted or bashed!

 

[joann1957]

Hi Joann, I agree that you can not cherry pic Scripture and you should study history first. This leads to some problems though. Example: I’m sure the American Indian Histoty of the developement of the Americas is a much different history than our version of history. This in itself can be problematic. I have studied history especially acient history which can change complexities of certain Scriptures. I have problems with not single verses but Chapters and even a book in Scripture. Genisis chapter 2-3 talk on the Tree of Life ( This is not the Tree of Knowledge) I have never found an official teaching on this and the Tree of Life in Genesis, Proverbs, Eziekiel, and Revelation. It is important enough to be in Scripture than why not revealed to the Church? Revelation I have studied a long with history, writtings of Josephus( Jewish historian),ect… yet this book too is incomplete in the Churches teaching. I’ve read books and tapes of Dr. Hahn,but he does not speak for the Church.Angles and saints have always been, they are not Apostles, which were selected in the beginning of the Church. It would seem to me election of Apostles should have kept going beyond Paul and Mathias. Bishop has a meaning than an Apostle. These are just a few of my Scriptures and questions.
Peace

**

The tree of knowledge is regarding good and evil, wisdom,spiritual knowledge.

The tree of life is Jesus Christ- God does not change

Try not to get too much into the semantics or symbols as much as the message you can interpret with wisdom . God does not change and has the same purpose , so what satan does cannot change Gods purpose or way.

In all the books where you see this reference Tree of Knowledge, Tree of Life, it does have the same meaning and or interpretaion.

Angels and Saints are replacements for the apostles.

I hope this helped you …

Joann**

 

[distracted]

Lol I take no offense at your statement about humans. Yes my wife and I take care of humans too. We give to the poor and homeless bring food to our neighbors, we just have a lot of animals too. I’m not in RCIA, but I have studied Catholism for years. I have a problem with claims of only Truth and the only one. It is my problem. My mother was a craddle Catholic whom lived a good fruitful life. She was very dedicated to the Church and serving mankind. Of any Catholic I have ever met she was an example of how to be. Catholicsm intrigues me, but I have reservations. I have found many Scriptures the Catholic Church has no official stance on. I ask too many questions such as where did Mrs.Cain come from ? I believe the devil hates all of mankind, because all man was created in God’s image not just a chosen few. That there were actually 14 Apostle (Mathias was elected and Paul), why then did Apostles stop? My understanding is Apostolic Succession is not the same thing. These are just a few questions that have not been answered. My biggest problem is I dwell to deep in Scriptures, that makes most people uncomfortable.

i am deep into scipture also because i attend daily Mass as often as possible and have been for years now… as you may know going to daily Mass for 3 yrs will teach you the entire Bible… .and there is nothing like hearing the Word while in the Real Presence of Christ during the Mass, where all the angels and sainst of Heaven participate… i pray you find this great experience… if you havn’et already… Then its always interesting hearing homilies about the readings… (if the priest is orthodox, that is)

we can trust the Church… it is only logical that God would establish a Chruch that could be trusted. IT is only confusing because of Luther and all those 40,000 churches we now have… Yikes… i am glad i cleared up all my confusions… God is love and he doesn’t want us confused or floundering… left to our own pathetic and fallible ways… of searching for truth…

The Catholic Church is full of imperfect humanoids but the teachings (ex-cathedra ones) are trustwrothy… God speaks through the Church on morals… If i didnt’ believe that i woiuld have NO peace. i am the kind of person who needs certainty in such matters and i finally have it… have studied Catholicism in depth… but it is mostly the Real PResence of Christ in the Church that does it for me… that is SO real…

even when i have doubts, they disappear when i think of the Real Presence… It is a very powerful thing to spend much time There, in silence, listening to JEsus speak … He has much to say… .about the true condition of our soul and many, many othere things…

if your mother was Catholic why didnt’ she raise you that way?? just wondering…

 

[distracted]

It seems to me that anyone associated with God, is detested by Satan; regardless of religious persuasion! As a 42 year follower of Christ Jesus(YIPPEE), I feel the Devil’s presence most, when I am preparing to do a good deed for God, i.e., witnessing, evangelizing, serving others in God’s name:thumbsup: To make a statement that one denomination or another is hated more, is to say said denomination is persecuted or bashed!

if you are not Catholic you don’t know …

i am catholic and i know… i have been in the Church and outside the Church… Now that i am a devout, practicing, enthused, outspoken Catholic, i am trul HATED by all… family members, etc… Seems seeking Jesus is NOT popular… if it means living totally unlike most others…

it usedto bother and disturb me becsue… well, i didn’t always think it was becaue of my faith… but that is the only thing that’s changed in the last few years… the only thing that is so extreme…

i sometimes feel i am even hated by God… I mean, it does say You will be hated by ALL, doesn’t it??

but that is the devil disguising himself as God… sometimes hard to remember that… being frail little humanoid that i am… .

 

[thirdn6]

i sometimes think everyone hates everyone. some philosopher said once that people naturally hate one another… sure seems true to me…

but we can overcome “nature” … with the Church.

the Spirit of Christ is always there.

The Spirit of Christ is always in you! YOU are a temple of the living God - do not defile yourself. Remember that always and you’d be able to supress temptations and worldly or natural tendencies or inclinations…

It’s my daily pill.

Peace. But Truth is more important…

 

[rev_kevin]

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Ever since i have become a catechized and enthused Catholic, it seems the devil pays much more attention to me…

i think he hates Catholics more than anyone …

do you agree??

I don’t believe that Satan hates anyone religion more than the the other. Its only those individuals who love God which can be any Christian not any single religion. See I went through the same thing when I became a Christian, it seemed that everything was going wrong or even worst then before I became a Christian. Remember you are a new Christian and Satan wants you away from God because you chose God instead of him so he will try to make you feel you have made the wrong decession. Satan will tempt you even more than he has done in the past. He is testing your faith in God and if your weak he will use that weakness to his favor. Think about this, who loves you more God or Satan? Who gave you life, God or Satan? Who is there to protect you God or Satan? It seems to you that Satan hates Catholics more because you are Catholic. If you were Baptist. Luthren or any other religion you would feel the same way.