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]He might. They are salty, and the christians are supposed to be the salt of the earth. So you may have a good case there.]
And what about when we lose our flavor?
Do you agree that the devil hates Catholics more than anyone else??
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And what about when we lose our flavor?
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StrawberryJam
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Get the extra toppings like black olives. I am getting hungry now. Your God sure gives me an appetite!He might. They are salty, and the christians are supposed to be the salt of the earth. So you may have a good case there.
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I donât think that the devil hates Catholicâs anymore then everyone else. I think the devil hates everyone including himself. But I think that rather you are Protestant, Catholic, Jewish etc as long as you are close to God and do Gods work the best you can he hates you the worst and wants you more.
I do believe though that he is after the Catholic Church more than any other Church in this world. Because I believe that Jesus Christ is the CC and he tries his best to hurt Jesus. And his weapon is hurting us because when he hurts us he hurts Jesus. He know he cannot get to Jesus because Jesus rejects all sin. But we unfortunately donât reject sin, and when we sin we become separated from God and the devil loves that. He hates to see us reconcile ourself with Christ again, that just kills him.
I do believe though that he is after the Catholic Church more than any other Church in this world. Because I believe that Jesus Christ is the CC and he tries his best to hurt Jesus. And his weapon is hurting us because when he hurts us he hurts Jesus. He know he cannot get to Jesus because Jesus rejects all sin. But we unfortunately donât reject sin, and when we sin we become separated from God and the devil loves that. He hates to see us reconcile ourself with Christ again, that just kills him.
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Have you been able to keep every Commandment since you were aware of them? I havenât; not that Iâm proud of it
Ever tell a lie? Do you still today, fromm time to time?Ever take something thatwasnât yours, no matter how small? Ever lust after a man, in your heart, or covet your neighborâs stuff? Jesus came to fulfill the Law, not abolish it! God originally gave the Ten Commandments to the Israelites, who could not keep them! Try as we may, it is nearly impossible to keep them, due to our sin nature! Jesus even said that if you hate someone in your heart, it is the equivalent of murderPaul said that the Law was for the lawless, not the righteous! That was the cool thing about the âWay of The Master,â series. People would claim that they were âgoodâ people and had kept all the Commandments. But under pressure, they revealed that they had broken nearly every one!
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joann1957
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**The ten commandments were to be followed in the OT and especially in the NT of Christ where does it say they are impossible to keep.??? the whole idea if one truly believes in Chist is to follow them if one truly has faith in Christ. We all have broke the commandments however we are suppose to be truly sorry,contrite, sincere and not repeat the offense. Sin sends one to Hell., so if we are breaking the commandments then we are sinning. You are misinterpreting Paul above which is typical of the OSAS sect. you take a couple of verses out of context as a way to live by and call them doctrine.Have you been able to keep every Commandment since you were aware of them? I havenât; not that Iâm proud of it
The commandments are Christs golden rules for us to follow for true believers in fact the whole NT is about the consequences if we dont follow the Lords Commandments.
**here is just couple you should apply to your so called faith in Christ
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Fatherâs commandments, and abide in his love.
Acts 1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
1 Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God. **
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joann1957
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can you explain to me in the NT what these verses mean or should we not apply them to our faithâŚ
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Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Matthew 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Mark 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mark 10:19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Luke 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
Luke 18:20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Fatherâs commandments, and abide in his love.
Acts 1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
1 Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
1 Corinthians 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Colossians 2:22 Which all are to perish with the using
after the commandments and doctrines of men?
Colossians 4:10 Aristarchus my fellowprisoner saluteth you, and Marcus, sisterâs son to Barnabas, (touching whom ye received commandments: if he come unto you, receive him
1 Thessalonians 4:2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.
Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1 John 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
1 John 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
2 John 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.**
can you explain to me in the NT what these verses mean or should we not apply them to our faithâŚ
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Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Matthew 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Mark 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mark 10:19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Luke 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
Luke 18:20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Fatherâs commandments, and abide in his love.
Acts 1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
1 Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
1 Corinthians 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Colossians 2:22 Which all are to perish with the using
after the commandments and doctrines of men?Colossians 4:10 Aristarchus my fellowprisoner saluteth you, and Marcus, sisterâs son to Barnabas, (touching whom ye received commandments: if he come unto you, receive him
1 Thessalonians 4:2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.
Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1 John 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
1 John 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
2 John 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.**
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1beleevr
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joan1957: Maybe you should read slower, or wear your glasses! I have never implied that the Ten Commandments, or any other Commandments of Christ were not important What I have stated, as I did to a catholic co-worker, was that the Ten Commandments were in and of themselves, perfect because they were delivered by the hand of God! But in our frail humaness, we are unable to keep them all! Ever heard of something called G-R-A-C-E? You know: God Removes All Condemnation Evermore? I suggest that you read Romans chapters 5&8, where Paul shows us the dangers of trying to follow the Law. And you still havenât answered the question, have you kept them all?
What I have stated, as I did to a catholic co-worker, was that the Ten Commandments were in and of themselves, perfect because they were delivered by the hand of God! But in our frail humaness, we are unable to keep them all! Ever heard of something called G-R-A-C-E? You know: God Removes All Condemnation Evermore? I suggest that you read Romans chapters 5&8, where Paul shows us the dangers of trying to follow the Law. And you still havenât answered the question, have you kept them all?
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**This is what i love about this sect , you quote a couple of verses out of context as a way to live by. you do not see Gods whole word or follow anything in the NT. you dont quote Matthew , Mark, Luke, John or Revelations,because then you be obligated to follow the ten commandments as you are suppose to according to Christ.joan1957: Maybe you should read slower, or wear your glasses! I have never implied that the Ten Commandments, or any other Commandments of Christ were not important
I try to keep them yes, i do my best to keep them and live a holy life ⌠Im not a Saint because I choose not to be. Sin sends man to Hell, so if we are continually breaking Godâs commandments then according to Jesus Christ we are going to be judged.
You use a couple of verses taken out of context to sin. Its quite clear according to your statments you disregard the commandments or dont apply them to what you call faith⌠thats what faith is . If you have faith you are following Gods commandments.**
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Are you speaking of your sect? Can you name me one person, besides Jesus, who has kept all Commandments? I do not pick and choose verses at random and choose them to live by, just as I do not keep Christ on the Cross, as your sect does; once was enough
And yes, it is very difficult to keep the Commandments, even with Jesusâs help! Why, because we are human, we are stubborn, and as much as we hate to admit it, we are selfish, and self centered! And I gave you chapters in Romans, where Paul pretty much trashes the Law, this from one who used to lavish the Law and pnish others with it! BTW, get down off the cross, we need the wood
And just for you information, I do apply the Commandments to my faith, oh ye who stands in judgement. And finally, let me ask you this; I have heard about the cc doing work with hospitals, and homeless, but what does the average Joe catholic do on his/her own to further the Kingdom? What does joan1957 do, as far as witnessing, feeding the homeless, etc.?
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One of my favorite churches is a couple doors down from UIC Pavilion in Chicago, and it has the bloodiest crucifix Iâve ever seen in a church. Itâs probably the most accurate depiction of how Christ suffered for us (in my neck of the woods). Now my husbandâs friend is a pastor through Assemblies of God, and when we visited his church, I canât remember seeing a cross at all, however, there may have been a very generic one. But thatâs my point. I remember the bloody one very well. Christ died a horrific death for us as you well know. Why does your church want to distance themselves from that memory? And why would Christ want us to forget?I do not pick and choose verses at random and choose them to live by, just as I do not keep Christ on the Cross, as your sect does; once was enough
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Our church doesnât distance itself from the memory of Christâs suffering at Golgotha
We have Crosses in our sanctuary, and the empty Cross+the empty tomb(you guys donât depict Him still in there do you?), = victory for US! You do remember that Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimethea, Pharisees, removed Jesusâs body from the Cross, donât you?(John 19:38-42) Iâm sure catholics are not the only religion that chooses to keep Our Saviour on the Cross, but it seems sad, that they cannot remember the horror of that day without a corpus on the Cross! Let me ask you this: If one of your children were killed in a horrific accident, and someone had a very vivid and graphic video, would youwatch it every day?
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joan1957: Your attempt at condescencion, is W-E-A-K! Of course I know that the Commandments are for everyone from the Israelites in the wilderness, to unborn babies, yet to come! And I have never IMPLIED that we shouldnât at least try to keep them! Iâmjust saying that is EXTREMELY difficult to keep them, even with Jesusâs help(Phillippians 4:13) Look, our flesh is permanently flawed, and cannot be redeemed; but our souls can! We have too many distractions that keep us from following all the Commandments! But I never said, or implied that we shouldnât follow them. Hey, try as I might, I canât keep them all! Christians will be judged by God and Jesus, not each other; as much for what they did or didnât do for their fellow man as well as Jesus:thumbsup:Based on your refusal to answer the question about what you do personally for the Lord, as far as service to others(the lost, homeless, etc.), I would guess you do nothing, besides mabe donate money or clothes, etc.
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joann1957
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**joan1957: Your attempt at condescencion, is W-E-A-K! Of course I know that the Commandments are for everyone from the Israelites in the wilderness, to unborn babies, yet to come! And I have never IMPLIED that we shouldnât at least try to keep them! Iâmjust saying that is EXTREMELY difficult to keep them, even with Jesusâs help(Phillippians 4:13) Look, our flesh is permanently flawed, and cannot be redeemed; but our souls can! We have too many distractions that keep us from following all the Commandments! But I never said, or implied that we shouldnât follow them. Hey, try as I might, I canât keep them all! Christians will be judged by God and Jesus, not each other; as much for what they did or didnât do for their fellow man as well as Jesus:thumbsup:Based on your refusal to answer the question about what you do personally for the Lord, as far as service to others(the lost, homeless, etc.), I would guess you do nothing, besides mabe donate money or clothes, etc.
Then i guess the next question would be, what happens if you dont keep THE COMMANDMENTS are you still saved.
?** YOU SAID ABOVE YOU CANT KEEP THEM . BECAUSE YOU CHOOSE YOUR WILL RATHER THAN GODS WILL. THE LORD WOULD HAVE NOT GIVEN THEM TO US IF HE THOUGHT WE COULD NOT FOLLOW THEM
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what i do for the Lord
- CHARITY
- I GO TO CHURCH ON A REGULAR BASIS
3 I PARTAKE IN COMMUNION
3.I SUFFER PUTTING ASIDE MY NEEDS TO HONOR HIS WILL
4.I TRY TO LIVE A HOLY LIFE
5.I FOLLOW THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
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Placing a formed, whether bloody or not, Jesus on a cross is different than viewing Him being crucified on the cross every day [via a video]. However, saintly types might do such a thing. Your question about viewing a video of one of my children dying in a horrific accident (how do you know one hasnât?) is a bit ludicrous, not to mention pretty cruel. Just what does your faith give you, if not to be kind? Hereâs a great quote from someone quoting OâConnor who was referring to Patrick Kennedyâs latest fallout with Bishop Tobin:]
Our church doesnât distance itself from the memory of Christâs suffering at Golgotha
âLetâs pray little Patrick will leave the Catholic Church until heâs ready to be Catholic. Itâs a free country. Let him run off and join the nearest branch of â in the words of Flannery OâConnor â âthe Holy Church of Christ Without Christ, where the blind donât see, and the lame donât walk, and whatâs dead stays that way.ââ
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Using the example of a child dying in ahorrific accident, was used to show ho:thumbsup:w watching someone you love die all over again(in my opinion) accomplishes nothing! In hebrews, it says something to the effect,âHe died ONCE, for ALL!â So, maybe you donât remember that the two Pharisees REMOVED His body from the Cross! For me, when I see an empty Cross, I shudder, remembering that Our Saviour paid a dear price for US to be able to have grace(canât earn it!), and to inherit the Kingdom of God,âWe are co-heirs with Christ!â. So, if you and your fellow catholics NEED a corpus, by all means, wear onw; but donât try to make theose of us who donât feel less Christian by not doing so!
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absolutelyâŚand you shoulda made a pollâŚbut yeah, totallyâŚever notice how when they attack christians, its catholics they go for? idk if its just because we have the most, universal church and they know everyones gonna get the joke or whatâŚbutâŚwere always the brunt of everything manâŚdrives me crazyâŚ.
Ever since i have become a catechized and enthused Catholic, it seems the devil pays much more attention to meâŚ
i think he hates Catholics more than anyone âŚ
do you agree??
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AwGusTeen
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Hmmm⌠Has anyone noticed how Satan worshipers are always trying to steal consecrated hosts in order to defile them? Admittedly, they only go after Catholics for that - they donât bother with Protestant Churches.
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Charlotte408
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i was thinking the media or tv shows like family guyâŚ
people worship satan?? lolâŚfor realzâŚ??? ahaah hah aha aha haaâŚdummies.
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