Do you believe in Adam and Eve or Evolution?

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Some Catholics believe in a Literal Creation story, and that Adam and Eve really existed while other Catholics believe that the Genesis Creation story is not to be taken literal and that Evolution is true. Though some people (like me :D) are still trying to decide. What is your matter on the issue
 
I have been struggling with this too.

I voted evolution, i take Adam and Eve to be symbolism but i would hope the literal creation story to be true so it can strengthen my faith!
 
Do you believe in Adam and Eve or Evolution?
Yes 😃

note: I did not address the poll question, only the thread title/question 😃
 
The Catholic church teaches that Adam and Eve were real historical people.

As for evolution versus creation. It does not have to be an either/or choice. I believe that evolution was the means God used to create.

Putting these two facts together leaves some unanswered questions for me, but that’s where I am at.
 
This isn’t a very good pole. What if one believes in Adam and Eve AND evolution?
Neither option fits, and “undecided” is not appropriate. I cannot vote. 😦

If I’m not mistaken, this is the Catholic’s church stance as well (adam and eve were real people, and evolution is real too). I think this option should be put in! 🙂
 
I believe that the story of creation in Genesis corresponds with evolution. I think that when the first humans with souls came along (who one would call Adam and Eve), they disobeyed God as Satan tempted them and they felt guilty about it. As Satan tempted them more and more, they kept feeling more and more guilt (or their eyes were opened and they noticed they were naked). They were developing consciences, intelects, and free will. Many say evolution is not compatible with Genesis, but, for most of them, they take everything literally (i.e. God created the world and life in exactly 7, 24 hour days.)
 
As some of the earlier commenters noted, this is a false choice. There’s no reason that something can’t be the result of both natural processes and God’s intervention into nature. After all, each of us born with a body (from natural processes) and a soul (from God’s direct intervention) is testimony to this. Even the word “procreation” suggests that parents are involved in the creative act along with, in some sense, God Himself.
 
Who cares? My faith is a lot deeper than evolution/Adam and Eve.

I’m an agnostic on the issue. If God created the world through evolution, fine. If it was an instant thing, fine.

I don’t see why so many people get so upset about this. I mean, want to start a fight in a bar? Forget insulting the man’s girlfriend, ask him if he believes in Evolution or “Creationism/intelligent design/whatever”
 
followingtheway said:
Some Catholics believe in a Literal Creation story, and that Adam and Eve really existed while other Catholics believe that the Genesis Creation story is not to be taken literal and that Evolution is true. Though some people (like me :D) are still trying to decide. What is your matter on the issue
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I believe in Adam and Eve: I believe that there the first humans, the parents of the human race, sinned. I believe that this sin was one of pride and disobedience and that it caused a loss of grace for us and it closed the gates to heaven, and it caused human suffering. (see below )

I believe in the symbolism of that story: I believe that the story is just that, a story used to explain certain truths, and it has symbolic elements

I believe in some sort of evolution: i am no scientist, I really do not know how humans (Adam/Eve) or other creatures came to be, but I accept whatever science proves to be fact.
  1. For these reasons the Teaching Authority of the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions, on the part of men experienced in both fields, take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter - for the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immediately created by God. However, this must be done in such a way that the reasons for both opinions, that is, those favorable and those unfavorable to evolution, be weighed and judged with the necessary seriousness, moderation and measure, and provided that all are prepared to submit to the judgment of the Church, to whom Christ has given the mission of interpreting authentically the Sacred Scriptures and of defending the dogmas of faith.[11] Some however, rashly transgress this liberty of discussion, when they act as if the origin of the human body from pre-existing and living matter were already completely certain and proved by the facts which have been discovered up to now and by reasoning on those facts, and as if there were nothing in the sources of divine revelation which demands the greatest moderation and caution in this question.
  2. When, however, there is question of another conjectural opinion, namely polygenism, the children of the Church by no means enjoy such liberty. For the faithful cannot embrace that opinion which maintains that either after Adam there existed on this earth true men who did not take their origin through natural generation from him as from the first parent of all, or that Adam represents a certain number of first parents. Now it is no no way apparent how such an opinion can be reconciled with that which the sources of revealed truth and the documents of the Teaching Authority of the Church propose with regard to original sin, which proceeds from a sin actually committed by an individual Adam and which, through generation, is passed on to all and is in everyone as his own.[12]
This is from one of Pope Pius XII 's encyclicals. Here is the link: fisheaters.com/humanigeneris.html

(Emphasis mine)
 
Rascalking said:
Who cares?
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Well, 🤷 I did put this poll up so…♫Me, me, meeee♫ 😃
Rascalking said:
My faith is a lot deeper than evolution/Adam and Eve.

I’m an agnostic on the issue. If God created the world through evolution, fine. If it was an instant thing, fine.

I don’t see why so many people get so upset about this. I mean, want to start a fight in a bar? Forget insulting the man’s girlfriend, ask him if he believes in Evolution or “Creationism/intelligent design/whatever”
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I agree with you on that one.
 
followingtheway said:
Some Catholics believe in a Literal Creation story, and that Adam and Eve really existed while other Catholics believe that the Genesis Creation story is not to be taken literal and that Evolution is true. Though some people (like me :D) are still trying to decide. What is your matter on the issue
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The Church does not teach that Adam and Eve existed. The Pentateuch, the 5 first books of the Bible, were written by 4 traditions or writing, or 4 types pf narrators who have different viewpoints.

Adam and Eve never existed. The story of Adam and Eve tells us: 1) that God created the Universe; 2) that God created Man; 3) that the situation of Man on Earth is of a suffering sinner.

Everybody knows evolution and evolution cannot be contradicted. It is a fact, a scientific fact. But… and this is a big But…there are jumps that have no explanation: 1) the jump from mineral to life and the jump from animal to Man.

Let’s dwell in the last one. The body of Man evolved with our cousins Monkeys, but the soul is created directly by God, every time a Baby Man is born. I do not see in Science anything that explains the evolution from Animal to Man that would be scientific and satisfactory.

In short: I, when I say “I”, I was created by God.

Cheers:)🤷
 
What a coincidence.

I was walking the horse down the road today and a neighbor stopped me to ask how she (the horse) hurt herself. Well, I couldn’t find a wound and asked him to show me where and he pointed to the chestnut on her leg. I explained that horses use to have 4 toes and now they have a hoof which would be considered a middle finger with the hoof being the fingernail. The chestnut and ergots are remnents of the ancient horse.

Now where Adam and Eve fit into this, I’m not sure. 🙂

But God created the first horse. 👍
 
asd72 said:
The Catholic church teaches that Adam and Eve were real historical people.

As for evolution versus creation. It does not have to be an either/or choice. I believe that evolution was the means God used to create.

Putting these two facts together leaves some unanswered questions for me, but that’s where I am at.
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OP, you left us without the choice of “both”. Belief in our first parents, called Adam and Eve and belief in evolution are not incompatible.
 
** What Does The Catholic Church **Teach about Origins?
http://www.kolbecenter.org/images/kolbe/pdfs/what_church_teaches.pdf
  • God created everything “in its whole substance” from nothing (ex nihilo) in the beginning.
    (Lateran IV; Vatican Council I)
  • Genesis does not contain purified myths. (Pontifical Biblical Commission 1909[1])
  • Genesis contains real history—it gives an account of things that really happened. (Pius XII)
  • Adam and Eve were real human beings—the first parents of all mankind. (Pius XII)
  • Polygenism (many “first parents”) contradicts Scripture and Tradition and is condemned. (Pius XII; 1994 Catechism, 360, footnote 226: Tobit 8:6—the “one ancestor” referred to in this Catechism could only be Adam.)
  • The “beginning” of the world included the creation of all things, the creation of Adam and Eve and the Fall (Jesus Christ Mark 10:6]; Pope Innocent III; Blessed Pope Pius IX, Ineffabilis Deus).
  • The body of Eve was specially created from a portion of Adam’s body (Leo XIII). She could not have originated via evolution.
  • Various senses are employed in the Bible, but the literal obvious sense must be believed unless reason dictates or necessity requires (Leo XIII, Providentissimus Deus).
  • Adam and Eve were created upon an earthly paradise and would not have known death if they had remained obedient (Pius XII).
  • After their disobedience of God, Adam and Eve were banished from the Garden of Eden. But the Second Person of the Trinity would subsequently pay the ransom for fallen man (Nicene Creed).
  • Original Sin is a flawed condition inherited from Adam and Eve (Council of Trent).
  • The Universe suffers in travail ever since the sin of disobedience by Adam and Eve. (Romans 8, Vatican Council I).
  • We must believe any interpretation of Scripture that the Fathers taught unanimously on a matter of faith or morals (Council of Trent and Vatican Council I).
  • All the Fathers who wrote on the subject believed that the Creation days were no longer than 24-hour-days. (Consensus of the Fathers of the Church)
  • The work of Creation was finished by the close of Day Six, and nothing completely new has since been created—except for each human rational soul at conception (Vatican Council I)
  • St. Peter and Christ Himself in the New Testament confirmed the global Flood of Noah. It covered all the then high mountains and destroyed all land dwelling creatures except eight human beings and all kinds of non-human creatures aboard the Ark (Unam Sanctam, 1302)
  • The historical existence of Noah’s Ark is regarded as most important in typology, as central to Redemption. (1566 Catechism of the Council of Trent)
  • Evolution must not be taught as fact, but instead the pros and cons of evolution must be taught.
    (Pius XII, Humani Generis)
 
Adam and Eve, of course. It’s Biblical; it’s what the Catholic teaching of Original Sin stands on; and fallible science is not a higher authority than God. Besides, who would want to believe in a theory that insists that our ancestors were smelly monkeys?
 
followingtheway said:
Some Catholics believe in a Literal Creation story, and that Adam and Eve really existed while other Catholics believe that the Genesis Creation story is not to be taken literal and that Evolution is true. Though some people (like me :D) are still trying to decide. What is your matter on the issue
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All Catholics are required to believe in the actual original parents, Adam and Eve. This is something I did research in my initial conversion to Catholicism from my previous Christian faith. I believe in the actual original parents, Adam and Eve. That’s all I’m saying for now.
 
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