Do you believe in Jesus?

[Aussieman88]

A while ago there was a post asking why the church hasn’t banned the charismatic mass. My question to the forum in reply to that is, do you really believe in Jesus? I mean really. You’ve all heard that if you had faith the size of a mustard seed you could command a mountain to move and it would obey you.

Check these quotes.
John 14; 12 to 15
John 16; 23
Jesus tells us anything we ask of the Father in his name and we will get. But it requires faith.

Then there’s my favourite.

Mark 16 ; 17 These signs will accompany those who believe; in my name they will drive out demons, they will speak new languages. They will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not harm them. They will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.

So think again. Do you really believe in Jesus? Contemplating the fact that Jesus suffered severely and died to save YOU should bring most if not all of us to tears. It should be enough for you to make alterations in your life so you can more easily avoid sin. Sometimes it might call for a complete change in habits, friends, lifestyle choices and entertainment choices to name a few. But without enough prayer you will eventually slip back into your old lifestyle.

Perhaps the hardest thing to change is the way we think and what we let come out of our mouth. Those automatic replies we make to situations, crass comments, blasphemies and jokes. The lord won’t use your mouth to give a prophecy if you are letting filth come out of it.

When charismatic people speak in tongues we shouldn’t regard them as weirdo’s. That’s either ignorance or the devils influence.
Food for thought…

Justin…

 

[AlanFromWichita]

When charismatic people speak in tongues we shouldn’t regard them as weirdo’s. That’s either ignorance or the devils influence.

Very true!

That is very succinct, but that’s what it comes down to.

That said, I also trust the Holy Spirit will make good of even their disbelief. (Rom 8:28) For myself, I think I’m drawn to human drama and evil; it seems to have a purgative effect on me, which ends up good for both me and the one expressing the evil.

Alan

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

Recently, one of our readings was about those who are not against us, are for us.

Mar 9:39 (9:38) But Jesus said: Do not forbid him. For there is no man that doth a miracle in my name and can soon speak ill of me.
Mar 9:40 (9:39) For he that is not against you is for you.

The Pope gave a homily on this Gospel.

Pope: Rejoice when non-Catholics do good

Castel Gandolfo, Italy, Sep 30, 2012 / 01:19 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- Pope Benedict XVI says that Catholics should be delighted whenever non-Catholics do what is good or embrace what is true.

“Members of the Church should not feel jealousy, but rejoice if someone from outside the community does good in the name of Christ, provided this is done with right intention and with respect,” he said during his Sept. 30 Angelus address at Castel Gandolfo.

The Pope was reflecting on the Sunday Gospel, as recorded by St. Mark, in which “a man, who was not the followers of Jesus had cast out demons in his name” when “the Apostle John, young and zealous, wants to stop him, but Jesus will not allow him.”

Certainly if the Pope said we are to rejoice when non-Catholics do good, we should equally rejoice when Catholics do good.

 

[Wiseowl]

Not sure about the charismatic Mass, my mother could recite all four Gospels word for word by memory which I believe was tongues… but I miss the High mass when we had singers , guitars , organs and more energy to the Mass. Almost like a Baptist service.

Our new Priest thought it was too progressive.

 

[englishredrose]

Not sure about the charismatic Mass, my mother could recite all four Gospels word for word by memory which I believe was tongues… but I miss the High mass when we had singers , guitars , organs and more energy to the Mass. Almost like a Baptist service.

Our new Priest thought it was too progressive.

confused. our priest is progressive he stated, and we have all that but not the talking tongues bit though there is room for it in the Anglican Church. My problem is that it seems called upon and have no idea if the individual in the room is faking it. I went once with a few friends at that time to a low church of england service and this was done in the service. Only half a dozen people there if that as well as us. We visitors were the only ones not rolling around on the floor making strange noises. They knew we were there as visitors. So were they kind of performing to us not realising it was making us feel very uncomfortable and questioning its practice all the more or is it genuine and they really couldn’t help themselves though they all picked themselves up from the floor in a sequence and were in their seats as though they were conscious of each other and the length of time they had for the show to give us. Sorry, I am sceptical of that experience plus we were not warned before hand so we were totally unprepared coming from a High Mass background to that… Yeh I do believe in Jesus, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.Thats how I believe in Jesus. Christlike God. Its taken me a long time to work that out actually today. Though been going over and over it much longer.

And I do respect talking tongue but I hate the showyness of it…

 

[Polycarp1]

A while ago there was a post asking why the church hasn’t banned the charismatic mass.

One of the questions that follows is whether or not the Priest has consecrated hands. If not he is not performing the sacrifice of the mass and is not really a priest as all and is leading people astray as they are not receiving the real body and blood of Christ.
John 6:53 "Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.”

The other question is the form of the mass as approved by the Roman Catholic Church. They have the right, the authority and the duty to determine what is proper and acceptable and Catholics have a duty to obey. Having said that I have no problem with the Catholic Charismatic Renewal so long as it submits to the authority of the Church.

I was once a prayer group leader and the parish where we held our meetings was getting a new priest who it was feared was not a supporter of charismatic prayer meetings. It was my feeling the if he said no more meetings in his parish that we were duty bound by obedience to stop holding them there regardless of our own personal feelings. Happily when he arrived he was fine with it.

There are many doors in My Fathers House and aslong as they ultimately lead people into the Church and the Sacraments they should be allowed IMHO

 

[504Katrin]

I do believe in Jesus, and in the Eucharist, and I do believe that he was the son of the Father, hence can do all these things, but I don’t believe that Jesus is God.
“Listen Israel, there’s only God” or something like that is what the bible says, and Jesus later on repeated the same thing.

 

[504Katrin]

A while ago there was a post asking why the church hasn’t banned the charismatic mass. My question to the forum in reply to that is, do you really believe in Jesus? I mean really. You’ve all heard that if you had faith the size of a mustard seed you could command a mountain to move and it would obey you.

Check these quotes.
John 14; 12 to 15
John 16; 23
Jesus tells us anything we ask of the Father in his name and we will get. But it requires faith.

Then there’s my favourite.

Mark 16 ; 17 These signs will accompany those who believe; in my name they will drive out demons, they will speak new languages. They will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not harm them. They will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.

So think again. Do you really believe in Jesus? Contemplating the fact that Jesus suffered severely and died to save YOU should bring most if not all of us to tears. It should be enough for you to make alterations in your life so you can more easily avoid sin. Sometimes it might call for a complete change in habits, friends, lifestyle choices and entertainment choices to name a few. But without enough prayer you will eventually slip back into your old lifestyle.

Perhaps the hardest thing to change is the way we think and what we let come out of our mouth. Those automatic replies we make to situations, crass comments, blasphemies and jokes. The lord won’t use your mouth to give a prophecy if you are letting filth come out of it.

When charismatic people speak in tongues we shouldn’t regard them as weirdo’s. That’s either ignorance or the devils influence.
Food for thought…
Justin…

totally agree

 

[RPRPsych]

A while ago there was a post asking why the church hasn’t banned the charismatic mass. My question to the forum in reply to that is, do you really believe in Jesus? I mean really. You’ve all heard that if you had faith the size of a mustard seed you could command a mountain to move and it would obey you.

Check these quotes.
John 14; 12 to 15
John 16; 23
Jesus tells us anything we ask of the Father in his name and we will get. But it requires faith.

Then there’s my favourite.

Mark 16 ; 17 These signs will accompany those who believe; in my name they will drive out demons, they will speak new languages. They will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not harm them. They will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.

So think again. Do you really believe in Jesus? Contemplating the fact that Jesus suffered severely and died to save YOU should bring most if not all of us to tears. It should be enough for you to make alterations in your life so you can more easily avoid sin. Sometimes it might call for a complete change in habits, friends, lifestyle choices and entertainment choices to name a few. But without enough prayer you will eventually slip back into your old lifestyle.

Perhaps the hardest thing to change is the way we think and what we let come out of our mouth. Those automatic replies we make to situations, crass comments, blasphemies and jokes. The lord won’t use your mouth to give a prophecy if you are letting filth come out of it.

When charismatic people speak in tongues we shouldn’t regard them as weirdo’s. That’s either ignorance or the devils influence.
Food for thought…

Justin…

Good post.

While I’m personally not a charismatic (I’m more of a nerdy “footnotes-in-Bibles” Catholic!), I certainly wouldn’t label a Charismatic Catholic a “weirdo”.

After all, St. Paul says “There are many gifts, but one Spirit.”

I think it’s important to have mutual respect for each one’s role.

Being a Charismatic Catholic doesn’t make you a “weirdo” - you have one kind of gift.
And being a non-Charismatic Catholic doesn’t make you an “unsaved Catholic” either - you just have a different kind of gift. Let us all do what is pleasing to the Lord, in our own way, as long as we remain within what the Church deems licit.

 

[Aussieman88]

I love you all. God bless you.