Do you belive other gods exist?

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Contarini said:
But why? What or who do you believe Jesus is? Are you simply honoring the faith/imagination of your fellow human beings, or do you believe that there is some reality behind the figure whom we worship as Jesus Christ, the Logos Incarnate?

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For two reasons.
  1. Respect for my family and friends. This is similar to taking of your shoes when asked to do so at someone else’s house. It is not humoring your friend. It is a show of respect.
  2. Respect for the Divine. A God(dess) is a God(dess) is a God(dess). The Divine is to be respected even if it is not a deity you honor.
 
Skadi said:
agreed, i respect Christianity like I do all religions, but when im forced by circumstance to sit through mass I will not participate, no matter how much my mother jabs me in the ribs.
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I know that feel!
I do because I’ll be transferred halfway through my Senior year of High School if I don’t, because Catholic high school is to expensive for me to be Pagan.
 
Contarini said:
But why? What or who do you believe Jesus is? Are you simply honoring the faith/imagination of your fellow human beings, or do you believe that there is some reality behind the figure whom we worship as Jesus Christ, the Logos Incarnate?

Edwin
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I’m not speaking for the poster, but Jews and a variety of pagans and polytheists agree that YHVH is the tribal God of the Jews. And that Jesus is basically the tribal God of Christians. Jews in general do not spend a lot of time worrying about the theology of non Jews, as long you aren’t trying to convert them.
 
Contarini said:
But this faith isn’t knowledge. It’s faith.
Edwin
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I couldn’t agree with you more. However according to the responses the thread “Why is Catholicism better?” it is absolute truth and fact. Therefore they shouldn’t fear death.
 
Lokadottir said:
I thought Christians didn’t fear death?
As someone who is forging a relationship with the Goddess Hel (or should be, I add this disclaimer because I gotta be honest I don’t always make time) honoring death is not that scary.
I also think the fact that you thought it was the pieta is very telling. Santa Muerta is actually associated with protection and healing as well as being a guide to the afterlife.
Why should you fear death when you have soul insurance?
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Santa Muerte is a heretical, demonic cult of veneration/worship practiced, among others, by drug runners and active homosexuals. Devotion to this demon is altogether foreign to orthodox Catholic piety and has been roundly condemned by Church authorities. It is this kind of popular syncretism that is extraordinarily dangerous to people who are ignorant of their own faith, because they are deceived and led astray not merely by other people who happily practice it but by demonic influences who predominate when true devotion goes awry.

Catholics do not fear death but welcome it at the appropriate time, and much of our practice is dedicated to proper preparation for it. Father Z says there is nothing worse than a sudden, unprovided death. Regular confessions are essential to maintain that state of grace that will ensure our reward of eternal life. We do pray to various saints for a holy death, and what is more central to our own faith but Christ’s own passion and death, especially in light of His glorious resurrection on the third day?
 
Elizium23 said:
Santa Muerte is a heretical, demonic cult of veneration/worship practiced, among others, by drug runners and active homosexuals. Devotion to this demon is altogether foreign to orthodox Catholic piety and has been roundly condemned by Church authorities. It is this kind of popular syncretism that is extraordinarily dangerous to people who are ignorant of their own faith, because they are deceived and led astray not merely by other people who happily practice it but by demonic influences who predominate when true devotion goes awry.

Catholics do not fear death but welcome it at the appropriate time, and much of our practice is dedicated to proper preparation for it. Father Z says there is nothing worse than a sudden, unprovided death. Regular confessions are essential to maintain that state of grace that will ensure our reward of eternal life. We do pray to various saints for a holy death, and what is more central to our own faith but Christ’s own passion and death, especially in light of His glorious resurrection on the third day?
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I’ll just say that the Catholic’s idea of not fearing death and the Germanic/Norse pagans are very different, as they view death itself in very different ways. For us, death is a predetermined, inescapable event. To quote that glorious if somewhat inaccurate movie “the 13th warrior”
“A mans fate is fixed, go hide in a hole if you like, you wont live a moment longer.”

To us, death isnt about when you die, but how you meet it.
 
Elizium23 said:
Santa Muerte is a heretical, demonic cult of veneration/worship practiced, among others, by drug runners and active homosexuals. Devotion to this demon is altogether foreign to orthodox Catholic piety and has been roundly condemned by Church authorities. It is this kind of popular syncretism that is extraordinarily dangerous to people who are ignorant of their own faith, because they are deceived and led astray not merely by other people who happily practice it but by demonic influences who predominate when true devotion goes awry.

Catholics do not fear death but welcome it at the appropriate time, and much of our practice is dedicated to proper preparation for it. Father Z says there is nothing worse than a sudden, unprovided death. Regular confessions are essential to maintain that state of grace that will ensure our reward of eternal life. We do pray to various saints for a holy death, and what is more central to our own faith but Christ’s own passion and death, especially in light of His glorious resurrection on the third day?
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And there aren’t Catholics who do bad things?
 
Skadi said:
I’ll just say that the Catholic’s idea of not fearing death and the Germanic/Norse pagans are very different, as they view death itself in very different ways. For us, death is a predetermined, inescapable event. To quote that glorious if somewhat inaccurate movie “the 13th warrior”
“A mans fate is fixed, go hide in a hole if you like, you wont live a moment longer.”

To us, death isnt about when you die, but how you meet it.
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Exactly!
 
Lokadottir said:
For two reasons.
  1. Respect for my family and friends. This is similar to taking of your shoes when asked to do so at someone else’s house. It is not humoring your friend. It is a show of respect.
  2. Respect for the Divine. A God(dess) is a God(dess) is a God(dess). The Divine is to be respected even if it is not a deity you honor.
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I Like your comments, well done 👍

In the world today there are a lot of people living by the principles of God while not being a member of a religion.

IMHO this is because people have seen the hypocrisy in religion. Deeds not reflecting the Words they preach. This is the True meaning of False Gods, again IMHO.

To me there is only One God, it is us humans that devise other things to replace that God. No matter what we do that can never take away from God, it is up to all of us to use free will to find the connection.

Best of luck in life and keep living the principals 😉

Regards Tony
 
You cannot “live by the principles of God” while not being a member of Christ’s Church. It is a fundamental principle which God has revealed to us that he has called us as a people. This is evident throughout salvation history since His covenant with Abraham promised him to be the Father of Nations. It is a sad fact of the growing encroachment of secularism upon Christianity that people do things like publish a video about “Why I hate religion, but love Jesus”.

These people are worshipping a false god: the god they have imagined in their heads, the god who does what they want rather than commanding them in humble obedience. “Your own personal Jesus”. Say what you want about organized religion, but it is vastly preferable to disorganized religion.
 
gazelam said:
LDS belief in a nutshell is that God the Father has always existed, Jesus Christ has always existed, and that all others who have lived or will live on the Earth have always existed. LDS belief is that there is no creation ex-nihilo. The elements (atoms, etc.) are also eternal. So any similarity between LDS belief and Arianism may be in that the Son is subordinate to the Father (if that is a component of Arianism). Christ said as much in John 14:28 (…my Father is greater than I) and John 6:38 (For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.)

I hope this helps…
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That is simply another untruth.

First, mormons believe the God the Father was once a sinful man…He was not always God.

Second, they have taught that Jesus was born due to actual intercourse between God and Mary.

And the Jesus and Satan are brothers.

And that there are many, many gods.
 
dshix said:
Santa Muerte is not a Catholic devotion. It is a demonic devotion intended to draw Catholics away from true Catholicism.
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No need to sling mud!
And personally I think blaming bad behavior and doubting/leaving a faith on something else causes a person to avoid facing themselves.
 
Bad behavior and abandonment of faith is ultimately a matter of free will and self-determination. But many factors enter into these decisions that are outside of one’s control. When I left the faith, I had been spiritually neglected and deceived for many years already. I no longer understood what it meant to be a Christian. I had an extraordinarily faulty image of who God is. I was troubled by demonic, occult influences and mental disorders. I worshipped false gods of sex and technology. When I finally stopped going to church, I was not entirely in control of myself anymore and it became much, much worse. It took many privations and trials to shake me out of confusion and doubt and make me question everything that I believed. This led me back to a true understanding of the Church, at which time I returned to the sacraments and made my Confirmation. This was not a magic cure for my bad behavior and disordered thoughts; they did not all vanish at once. But every day it gets easier with careful practice, prayer and worship because now I seek the One True God with a sincere heart and I follow my conscience while I continue to form it in compliance with Divine Law.

Free will is a powerful thing and the Evil One despises us for it. But our free will can be compromised when, willingly or unwittingly, we submit ourselves to demonic influences and undesirable relationships and disordered thoughts and feelings. This is the path to false worship. This is how we make idols of worldly things and this is how we lose sight of worship due to the LORD alone. Once they assert power over us then it is very hard to break free. The only way to release ourselves is to surrender to God and devoutly call upon the name of Jesus who heals and saves.
 
Lokadottir said:
No need to sling mud!
And personally I think blaming bad behavior and doubting/leaving a faith on something else causes a person to avoid facing themselves.
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Desist in attributing greater meaning to what I say, please. I am making absolutely no statement about the people who practice this “devotion,” but the thing itself.

Santa Muerte is NOT Catholic in any way, shape, or form.
 
No --there is only one God -in three Persons (the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit).
 
dshix said:
Desist in attributing greater meaning to what I say, please. I am making absolutely no statement about the people who practice this “devotion,” but the thing itself.

Santa Muerte is NOT Catholic in any way, shape, or form.
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Actually you did. I accidentally deleted it. You referred to drug carriers being adherents. I’m not saying that the practice falls within Catholicism. I’m merely saying what you have stated are not good grounds to condemn it so rudely. Now there may be other viable reasons. I have not researched the practice extensively. Please don’t damn it soley on its veneration of death , its practitioners, or it “otherness.”
 
People involved in evil activities do not typically call upon holy saints to aid and abet them in their pursuit of wrongdoing. The fact that Santa Muerte is venerated and revered by drug runners and homosexualists is proof positive of its demonic origin and its blasphemous intent.
 
Elizium23 said:
People involved in evil activities do not typically call upon holy saints to aid and abet them in their pursuit of wrongdoing. The fact that Santa Muerte is venerated and revered by drug runners and homosexualists is proof positive of its demonic origin and its blasphemous intent.
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Lets leave homosexuals out of this please? I’m requesting some respect for others beliefs.
 
So I was discussing this topic with my husband and we got on the topic of the shema, and of the Lord our God, the Lord is one which lead me to Deuteronomy 6:14 another reference to other gods

14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the peoples that are round about you;

יד לֹא תֵלְכוּן, אַחֲרֵי אֱלֹהִים אֲחֵרִים–מֵאֱלֹהֵי, הָעַמִּים, אֲשֶׁר, סְבִיבוֹתֵיכֶם.

Again, I find it curious that he chooses not to deny the existence of other Gods, especially as the only monotheistic religion surrounded by polytheists.
 
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