Do you cross yourself at the end of the Confiteor?

[CHRISTINE77]

Yes I always do it - it’s habitual, don’t think I could stop myself!

 

[TrueLight]

Not quite true. As I noted in my earlier post, the second prayer following the Confiteor in the EF contains, in the rubrics, the Sign of the Cross. This second prayer is omitted from the OF and the remaining prayer does not call for the Sign of the Cross.

To further clarify, in the EF the rubrics are generally only for the priest, deacon, subdeacon, and, to a much lesser degree, servers. So the priest and servers cross themselves at the second post-Confiteor prayer, but the laity are not instructed either way. Since the Sign of the Cross is omitted from the OF rubrics at this point, the priest probably shouldn’t make it, but I guess it’s probably okay if the congregants choose to do so. I don’t.

We do it.

In fact, it seems like we cross ourselves whenever the priest does.

Some of us mimic the servers in some of the bows. For example during the Gloria, I think it is during this part that the servers offer a low bow.

Dómine Deus, Rex cæléstis,
Deus Pater omnípotens.
Dómine Fili Unigénite, Iesu Christe,
Dómine Deus, Agnus Dei, Fílius Patris,

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[roadsend]

Yes and at the end of the Gloria and Credo also.
As per the poster above it is also a custom of long standing to bow at various points also.

 

[ElToro]

We do it.

In fact, it seems like we cross ourselves whenever the priest does.

Some of us mimic the servers in some of the bows. For example during the Gloria, I think it is during this part that the servers offer a low bow.

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The low bow is during the Creed and it’s part of the rubrics as is striking one’s breast during the Confiteor.

 

[TrueLight]

The low bow is during the Creed and it’s part of the rubrics as is striking one’s breast during the Confiteor.

I’m not talking about the Creed.

The low bow you are referring to above, is that the one at the “And the Word Became Flesh?”.

 

[Chatter163]

Some of us mimic the servers in some of the bows. For example during the Gloria, I think it is during this part that the servers offer a low bow.

The bows (of the head only, nothing more) during the Gloria are in red:

Glória in excélsis Deo et in terra pax homínibus bonae voluntátis. Laudámus te, benedícimus te, adorámus te, glorificámus te, grátias ágimus tibi propter magnam glóriam tuam, Dómine Deus, Rex cæléstis, Deus Pater omnípotens. Dómine Fili Unigénite, Iesu Christe, Dómine Deus, Agnus Dei, Fílius Patris, qui tollis peccáta mundi, miserére nobis; qui tollis peccáta mundi, súscipe deprecatiónem nostram. Qui sedes ad déxteram Patris, miserére nobis. Quóniam tu solus Sanctus, tu solus Dóminus, tu solus Altíssimus, Iesu Christe, cum Sancto Spíritu: in glória Dei Patris. Amen

The genuflection at “And the word was made flesh…” comes during the last gospel.

 

[TrueLight]

The bows (of the head only, nothing more) during the Gloria are in red:

Glória in excélsis Deo et in terra pax homínibus bonae voluntátis. Laudámus te, benedícimus te, adorámus te, glorificámus te, grátias ágimus tibi propter magnam glóriam tuam, Dómine Deus, Rex cæléstis, Deus Pater omnípotens. Dómine Fili Unigénite, Iesu Christe, Dómine Deus, Agnus Dei, Fílius Patris, qui tollis peccáta mundi, miserére nobis; qui tollis peccáta mundi, súscipe deprecatiónem nostram. Qui sedes ad déxteram Patris, miserére nobis. Quóniam tu solus Sanctus, tu solus Dóminus, tu solus Altíssimus, Iesu Christe, cum Sancto Spíritu: in glória Dei Patris. Amen

The genuflection at “And the word was made flesh…” comes during the last gospel.

Very helpful. I"m going to mass tonight, so I’ll be paying particular attention.

 

[Windmill]

One could make the SotC all throughout Mass out of personal devotion. While it is noble, it is out of place. The Indulgentiam was purposely removed to make clear that going to Mass does not absolve from serious sin.

 

[Claire_from_DE]

I don’t. I don’t think the laity are instructed to do this in either form of the Mass, but there’s nothing wrong with it. With people my age, we used to do it because the priest or servers did it and it became a habit like signing ourselves before the gospel, which I still do.

 

[TheMc]

I don’t. I don’t think the laity are instructed to do this in either form of the Mass, but there’s nothing wrong with it. With people my age, we used to do it because the priest or servers did it and it became a habit like signing ourselves before the gospel, which I still do.

However, don’t forget that signing yourself before the gospel is actually in the rubrics still today.

 

[Claire_from_DE]

However, don’t forget that signing yourself before the gospel is actually in the rubrics still today.

Isn’t it in the rubrics for the deacon or priest who reads the gospel? I don’t think any particular action is specified for the laity.

 

[stephraim]

Isn’t it in the rubrics for the deacon or priest who reads the gospel? I don’t think any particular action is specified for the laity.

It’s definitely in the Ceremonial of Bishops, no. 141. I don’t have my GIRM with me at the moment, so I can’t say for certain if it’s in there or not.

 

[TheMc]

Isn’t it in the rubrics for the deacon or priest who reads the gospel? I don’t think any particular action is specified for the laity.

It’s definitely in the Ceremonial of Bishops, no. 141. I don’t have my GIRM with me at the moment, so I can’t say for certain if it’s in there or not.

It is. I would have posted it before if I had more energy last night. It’s in 134:

1. At the ambo, the priest opens the book and, with hands joined, says, Dominus vobiscum (The Lord be with you), and the people respond, Et cum spiritu tuo (And also with you). Then he says, Lectio sancti Evangelii (A reading from the holy gospel), making the sign of the cross with his thumb on the book and on his forehead, mouth, and breast, which everyone else does as well. The people say the acclamation Gloria tibi, Domine (Glory to you, Lord). The priest incenses the book, if incense is used (cf. below, nos. 276-277). Then he proclaims the Gospel and at the end says the acclamation Verbum Domini (The gospel of the Lord), to which all respond, Laus tibi, Christe (Praise to you, Lord Jesus Christ). The priest kisses the book, saying quietly, Per evangelica dicta (May the words of the gospel)

stephraim, could you post a transcript or scan of Ceremonial of Bishops 141? Not all of us have a hard copy, and it’s not available online. (I assume you are working from a hard copy. If you have it electronicly, PLEASE PM ME!!)

 

[JerrySeibert]

Should you? My father did, so I did. I have never been told I should not.