Do You Ever Attend Non-Catholic Worship Services?

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Why would you attend anything claiming to worship God which is run by people who reject our ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC Church? Because you like sing-along songs? The Merlot afterwards? The warm, fuzzy feeling you get? Seriously…

It appears that you are simply looking for people to vindicate your atrocious attendance of these “services.” I can only imagine the numerous martyrs who would abhor the very notion of attending such a meeting.

Time to grow up. We all have problems with the music at Mass, the way people dress, the Judas Shuffle at the end, etc. However, we don’t “nourish” our faith with such lurid excuses for worship.
 
No, never, no way. I would never allow my daughter to do this as well.

I would go to an Orthodox church however as I have great respect for them.

Oh, I have been to some wedding ceremonies if that counts. Protestant churches feel like courtrooms to me. Even the most speace-ship looking Catholic Church has the Pressence of Christ within it- thus that sense of the Divine is there for me.

I don’t like going into Protestant Churches.

One of the saddest things I have seen was a medieval church in Switzerland that had been gutted and turned into some kind of Protestant Church. You could see the former beauty in the construction but all spirit was gone.
 
No, never, no way. I would never allow my daughter to do this as well.

I would go to an Orthodox church however as I have great respect for them.
Oh, I have been to some wedding ceremonies if that counts. Protestant churches feel like courtrooms to me. Even the most speace-ship looking Catholic Church has the Pressence of Christ within it- thus that sense of the Divine is there for me.

I don’t like going into Protestant Churches.

One of the saddest things I have seen was a medieval church in Switzerland that had been gutted and turned into some kind of Protestant Church. You could see the former beauty in the construction but all spirit was gone.
Sadly they probably don’t have any in return… 😉
 
Why would you attend anything claiming to worship God which is run by people who reject our ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, and APOSTOLIC Church? Because you like sing-along songs? The Merlot afterwards? The warm, fuzzy feeling you get? Seriously…
Because instead of watching TV, surfing the web and reading the Sunday paper on Sunday night I prefer (after having attended the Mass and/or a Divine Liturgy earlier in the day) to sing, pray and fellowship with other Christians for a couple of hours.
It appears that you are simply looking for people to vindicate your atrocious attendance of these “services.” I can only imagine the numerous martyrs who would abhor the very notion of attending such a meeting.
Now you are just acting rude. To be honest though, comments like yours do reinforce the fact that I am doing nothing wrong.
Time to grow up. We all have problems with the music at Mass, the way people dress, the Judas Shuffle at the end, etc. However, we don’t “nourish” our faith with such lurid excuses for worship.
Yes. Please do, and I sincerely mean that. Just look at your comments. How horribly uncharitable. They are NOT Christian in their tenor. I am not saying this to offend you, but I truly don’t want to worship God in a communal manner with anyone who actually holds the beliefs you professed here. Your comments are full of anger and ignorance. The Catholic Church does not teach to condemn all that you do not know and you’re doing just that.

I’m not sure why you would make such comments? Does it make you feel more secure in your own faith? Does it somehow make you feel superior to me – as if I am not aware of the baseless accusations you have made? Do you really think you’re being a good (and strong) member of the Church Militant by leading with your chin?

Or do you really not know any better? Did you proof your last message before posting it and thought “yes, I truly feel this way!”? If that’s the case have you ever reflected on what makes you feel that way? It’s certainly not the Catholic Church.

I suspect I would attend these services (at least once in a while) even if the music, singing, preaching and fellowship was superb at the Masses and Divine Liturgies I attend. In the end the opportunity cost is not high (TV, web, newspaper) and the music, singing, prayer, preaching and fellowship DOES nourish me as a Christian.
 
I’m blessed in that in the EF I attend, I don’t see the above.
That’s good to hear. The stylish winery t-shirts, shorts and jelly sandals don’t really bother me anymore. The arriving late and leaving early makes me sad. It used to anger me but now I just find it to be sad.

Ironically that characteristic seems to be a holdover in my parish from the Tridentine days.
 
ElToro, I was wondering if you could respond to SwizzleSticks post #135. You were in a lively discourse with a few others and perhaps missed that one…but I was anxious to hear your response to it…just out of curiosity.

Hopefully SwizzleStick won’t mind me doing this, but I’ll repost his message below, and if you have time, you can respond to it. He actually didn’t want you to respond specifically to the 3rd paragraph (bolded), but at the risk of being too pushy, I would respectfully ask if you would offer a response to it.

Thanks in advance!

here’s the post by SwizzleStick:

My concern was that you seem to place a high value on being “fed” by the positive feelings of music, fellowship, preaching that you get at the Protestant services while your experience at Mass have left you feeling negative. You seem to think that your experiences with the Mass are inadequate in those areas and so you have your needs in those areas met by the Protestant services.

Many have left the Church because they feel fed by those same things when it is an empty feast in comparison with our Lord in the Eucharist. It is a feel good faith, but it isn’t the fullness of Faith. I know you indicated you spoke with your pastor, but sharing a word of caution seemed like a good idea considering your negative posts about the Mass and your positive posts about your Protestant services. You say that your Faith being negatively impacted isn’t a concern for you, that you won’t be drawn away from your Faith, that you aren’t confused at all about your Faith. Okay. You yourself apparently don’t need a word of caution then.

**What about others, though? Are the Protestants confused by the attendance of a Catholic at their services? Do they know that you feel Mass is inadequate to fill your needs for music, preaching, fellowship and that is why you also attend there? Do you share your Protestant experiences at your Catholic Church and possibly confuse or scandalize your fellow Catholics? **

Please don’t answer me. I suggest you ask yourself these things, examine your conscience and talk with your confessor. Note that I didn’t say “confess” to your confessor. I said talk, as I did in my previous post. I think it would be wise to just seek his counsel and guidance. I don’t know what else to say to you, as that seems like a prudent course to me.
 
My concern was that you seem to place a high value on being “fed” by the positive feelings of music, fellowship, preaching that you get at the Protestant services while your experience at Mass have left you feeling negative. You seem to think that your experiences with the Mass are inadequate in those areas and so you have your needs in those areas met by the Protestant services.
You continue to try and set up the Mass vs. prayer service comparison and the two are not comparible. I do feel disgust with how cavalierly so many Masses are celebrated and how boorish many people act at the Mass but that in no way means I am not still being nourished by the sacrifice. If you detect that, you detect it in error.
Many have left the Church because they feel fed by those same things when it is an empty feast in comparison with our Lord in the Eucharist. It is a feel good faith, but it isn’t the fullness of Faith. I know you indicated you spoke with your pastor, but sharing a word of caution seemed like a good idea considering your negative posts about the Mass and your positive posts about your Protestant services. You say that your Faith being negatively impacted isn’t a concern for you, that you won’t be drawn away from your Faith, that you aren’t confused at all about your Faith. Okay. You yourself apparently don’t need a word of caution then.
I don’t think so. I think people have left the Church because DESPITE the awesome gifts Catholic Christians have received from God, Masses are still celebrated in utilitarian, fast, cavalier manners and all to often those that attend do so in the most boorish of ways.

Given those awesome gifts from God I think many can’t understand why Catholic music/singing/preaching/decorum/fellowship is not infinately superior to those of our non-Catholic brethren. I think they feel they are being lied to with the canned/standard excuses for poor music/singing/preaching/decorum/fellowship. I think some Masses get so bad in these terms (and others) that they begin to question what the Church teaches.

Think about it. The typical EWTN Catholic has been taught to reply with “but we have the Eucharist” when anyone praises the music/singing/preaching/fellowship of non-Catholic churches. Rather than admit many parishes are deficient in these areas and endeavor to formulate solutions we are taught to justify the shortcomings. That’s horrible.
What about others, though? Are the Protestants confused by the attendance of a Catholic at their services? Do they know that you feel Mass is inadequate to fill your needs for music, preaching, fellowship and that is why you also attend there? Do you share your Protestant experiences at your Catholic Church and possibly confuse or scandalize your fellow Catholics?
Other than their senior pastor I don’t think anyone knows whether I am Catholic. Orthodox, Protesant, etc. We don’t have color -coded name tags. Church affilation is not the focus of their prayer services – God and His Son are.

No, I don’t share them at my Catholic Church. Remember, there is really no chance for fellowship. If I did though, how would it “scandalize (my) fellow Catholics” to say I enjoyed the music/singing/preaching and fellowship of XYZ Parish? That’s pure bunkum.
Please don’t answer me. I suggest you ask yourself these things, examine your conscience and talk with your confessor. Note that I didn’t say “confess” to your confessor. I said talk, as I did in my previous post. I think it would be wise to just seek his counsel and guidance. I don’t know what else to say to you, as that seems like a prudent course to me.
It’s not for your benefit – someone else asked. I suggest you asked the above “questions” as a means to illustrate your own beliefs. As I already mentioned I spoke to my pastor about it. He said there was no problem. He seemed pained though because he clearly understands his parish has great difficulty when it comes to music/singing/preaching/fellowship YET it’s also no worse than the great majority of Catholic parishes from what I have sampled.
 
I do wonder why Catholic parishes often perform so collectively poorly in the areas of music/singing/preaching/fellowship when compared to our non-Catholic brethren? No one really has ever explained why that is to me.

I suspect it’s largely a matter of expectations. Catholics typically don’t expect/demand excellence in music/singing/preaching/fellowship (which takes a great deal of time, talent and resources no matter who you are) so we typically receive inferior music/singing/preaching/fellowship when compared to our non-Catholic brethren.

On the other hand I think our non-Catholic brethren are far more apt to expect/demand (and contribute to!) excellence in music/singing/preaching/fellowship.

Given Catholics’ awesome gifts from God (that are not shared by our non-Catholic brethren) one would think the grace from these gifts would give Catholics the drive and resources to produce the very best when it came to music/singing/preaching/fellowship. Instead they are too often used as excuses.
 
I do wonder why Catholic parishes often perform so collectively poorly in the areas of music/singing/preaching/fellowship when compared to our non-Catholic brethren? No one really has ever explained why that is to me.

I suspect it’s largely a matter of expectations. Catholics typically don’t expect/demand excellence in music/singing/preaching/fellowship (which takes a great deal of time, talent and resources no matter who you are) so we typically receive inferior music/singing/preaching/fellowship when compared to our non-Catholic brethren.

On the other hand I think our non-Catholic brethren are far more apt to expect/demand (and contribute to!) excellence in music/singing/preaching/fellowship.

Given Catholics’ awesome gifts from God (that are not shared by our non-Catholic brethren) one would think the grace from these gifts would give Catholics the drive and resources to produce the very best when it came to music/singing/preaching/fellowship. Instead they are too often used as excuses.
I disagree. I think all the music and happy-clappy stuff of non-Catholic churches is a way to entice people by making them “feel good” while distracting them from the fact that they are not the true Church of Christ.

Another thing I’ve noticed here is that people constantly complain about their priests preaching. But does anyone ever stop to consider that preaching is simply not that priests strong point and that his strengths lie in other areas? Our main parish priest in my old parish was an excellent preacher and teacher. One of the other priests was not such a good preacher but he was an excellent confessor and very good with people on a more one to one basis. People seem to forget that priests are only human.
 
Below is an excerpt from a blog entry by Fr. Joe. It is relevant to the discussion. The entire commentary can be found at the link.

"Preaching, the Liturgy & the Faith
Posted on February 13, 2011 by Father Joe

Why Does the Fire Go Out?

People have their reasons, but there is no good reason for leaving the Church. The majority in the area where I reside are probably Baptist and/or Evangelical. Some of these communities target Catholics and many Catholics marry non-Catholics. Not understanding their own tradition, many Catholics are inordinately moved by the music and preaching in Protestant churches. Catholic reformed rituals might not be regarded as very entertaining. Much of the music we sing is criticized as trite and unmoving. When we borrow Protestant hymns or sing Gospel, it is usually a pale imitation of what our separated brethren have to offer. Music enshrines preaching. Particularly in the African-American community, services can go hours. The importance of the minister is measured by his musicality and his effectiveness as a preacher. Our gravity is upon the formulae of liturgy, not upon preaching.

Preachers and Priests, No Comparison?

Many priests were trained to keep homilies or sermons to ten minutes or less. That is about the length of two or three MTV videos. Time-wise, it cannot compare to the formation of the media or to the teaching sermons of our separated-brethren. I knew one old man who went to Mass on Saturday night and to his wife’s Baptist church on Sunday. He told me that he went to Mass for Holy Communion and to the Protestant church for good preaching. This is a rather sad state of affairs. Are we fully feeding our people? Preaching outside the Catholic Church may be dynamic and meaningful; however, it is also fraught with religious error."…

Entire commentary: bloggerpriest.wordpress.com/2011/02/13/preaching-the-liturgy-the-faith/
 
ElToro, I was wondering if you could respond to SwizzleSticks post #135. You were in a lively discourse with a few others and perhaps missed that one…but I was anxious to hear your response to it…just out of curiosity.

Hopefully SwizzleStick won’t mind me doing this, but I’ll repost his message below, and if you have time, you can respond to it. He actually didn’t want you to respond specifically to the 3rd paragraph (bolded), but at the risk of being too pushy, I would respectfully ask if you would offer a response to it. …
…Hopefully SwizzleStick won’t mind me doing this, but I’ll repost his message below, and if you have time, you can respond to it. …
I don’t mind. I asked ElToro not to answer me because I see a real potential for negative consequences resulting from what the OP is doing, but I don’t really understand his actions or feelings at all since music and preaching are such a non-issue to me. So, I thought it prudent to advise him to seek continued guidance from his confessor who knows him, knows how he feels, and can discuss this in detail with him.
 
Greetings, all!

I have attended other services, and I, too enjoy the music, etc. Music REALLY speaks to me. However, there is always something lacking in the services…and it is the Eucharist.

At one point I had a similar point of view as I’ve seen posted - boorish, same thing over and over, music that didn’t inspire, no fellowship.

I have seen a change in my church. Most of it is due to our wonderful Pastor and his vision for the future. We just built a new Family Life Center on our Parish Plant. This was a huge accomplishment.

I have found that it’s not so much “what you get out” of the service, as “what you take into” the service. If the individual does not have a fulfilling relationship with God, then they are not going to be fulfilled wherever they go, and will continually search. Every person has to find their own way to God and develop that relationship. My children are not active in the church and I pray for them multiple times each day to find a relationship with God. IF they develop a relationship with Him even a fraction of what I feel, they will return to the church in a hurry and never leave…but I know this has to be in His time…

At one point I was in the mixed choir at church, but did not enjoy it becuase some of the older hymns do not appeal to me. Now I am blessed to be part of the music ministry for our Youth Mass and our Life Teen group. The kids have blessed me soooo much! The music we sing is just what I need and it’s where God has planted me - for now.

He calls my name, and I answer. I have learned to “Praise Him in the Storm,” I recognize His “Blessings” no matter how they are presented, and through all my trials that I go through I know He is using them to make me “Stronger”.
 
I disagree. I think all the music and happy-clappy stuff of non-Catholic churches is a way to entice people by making them “feel good” while distracting them from the fact that they are not the true Church of Christ.
There you go again. Just where did I say the music/singing is “happy-clappy?” What a load of garbage. It’s not “happy clappy.” You say that in an attempt to denigrate what you don’t like.

As far as your “distracting them from the fact that they are not the true Church of Christ” sewage I don’t think most of them consider the Catholic Church to be any different than their own community (which of coure it is.) I don’t think it even registers to them. You seem to be CONSUMED with attacking their faith. They are not consumed with attacking the Catholic Church, even though it’s clear that you have been programmed to believe they are. I think you have too high an opinion of yourself to think they would even care that you are a Catholic Christian. Their focus is more on God, His Son and Eternal Salvation rather than attacking the Church. Your suggestion that they know the difference and that they are trying to distract themselves and others with exellence in music, singing, preaching and fellowship has me laughing out loud.
Another thing I’ve noticed here is that people constantly complain about their priests preaching. But does anyone ever stop to consider that preaching is simply not that priests strong point and that his strengths lie in other areas? Our main parish priest in my old parish was an excellent preacher and teacher. One of the other priests was not such a good preacher but he was an excellent confessor and very good with people on a more one to one basis. People seem to forget that priests are only human.
It’s RARE, no, VERY RARE to witness a priest that preaches well around there parts. Please don’t make more excuses by trying to infer that one cannot be an excellent preacher AND confessor. That goes right along with “but we have the Eucharist.”

A friend of mine was ordained a priest about 2 years ago. He preaches WELL. The seminary HE attended finally got the message – teach the seminarians how to preach! They speak publically throughout their time in seminary. They preach outside of the Mass throughout seminary. He is an excellent homilist yet he has few natural gifts. I hope more seminaries stop the denial and begin preparing their seminarians for excellence in preaching as a priest.
 
I know it’s not really your question, but I’m Orthodox, and I often attend Mass at a Catholic church in order to be able to worship in a language I understand.
 
No, I don’t share them at my Catholic Church. Remember, there is really no chance for fellowship. If I did though, how would it “scandalize (my) fellow Catholics” to say I enjoyed the music/singing/preaching and fellowship of XYZ Parish? That’s pure bunkum.
Although you don’t do it, I could see that if a Catholic regularly shared with fellow Catholics their enjoyment of preaching at XYZ church, some of them may be intrigued to join in or explore it on their own. I think preaching, specifically, is where I would express concern. I’m not suggesting there are rampant anti-Catholic sermons out there, as most of it is testimonials, stories, and/or teachings that the Catholic Church would not object to per se…but in the few that I have attended, there always seems to be some dosage of doctrinal conflict in the message. Perhaps the Catholic that would attend these would pick up quickly on those conflicts, and easily dismiss them. But some of them are subtle, and indirect…and I think over a lengthy time, it might set up a situation that fosters some doubt about Catholic teaching. Just a hunch, not an objective fact, mind you.

Also, you mentioned lack of fellowship…and I’m with you on that, assuming you meant after Mass, not during (wasn’t sure, because your wording earlier seemed to suggest you would like to see similar fellowship in the pews). Anyway, some Catholic parishes have excellent parishioner involvement, and convenient facilities to foster fellowship among the people. Most parishes I have been to do not, sadly.

But I think it’s difficult to have that atmosphere at Catholic parishes, simply because the whole parish is initially designed around solemn worship, and rightly so. But to take that original design and transform it into something accommodating to fellowship is difficult to do. Most parishes have small vestibules, and IF they have a community center, it’s way across the parking lot. You have to walk past your car, making a concerted effort to not drive away and get on with your day. I would hope people would have more motivation to not be swayed by the luring of secular activity on Sunday, but sadly they don’t seem to. But then again, we don’t know where they’re headed, do we? Perhaps they’re going down to the homeless shelter to serve, or to a bible study outside the parish, or a ministry meeting. We don’t know. Not* all *of them are going to watch football.

On the other hand, many bible-only churches with this high-energy fellowship are initially designed around…well, fellowship, not worship. Fellowship seems to be the primary architectural objective, and they do a very good job at it…most I’ve been to, you not only have energetic fellowship in the pews, but you walk out the door afterwards right into a big fellowship hall. It’s in the design of things. That’s the focus. Not saying I would like to see Catholic parishes designed this way. Not at all. I am partial to the old (cross) design, but it’s a shame we don’t have something other than the parking lot when we walk out of the church.

I digress. Sorry to all for the long post. I would caution you about the preaching part. But I see your point about fellowship…however still feel it’s something we should be spending our time in our own parishes trying to sow, rather than frequently escaping to other places away from Catholics where the garden is perhaps already ripe.

Peace.
 
There you go again. Just where did I say the music/singing is “happy-clappy?” What a load of garbage. It’s not “happy clappy.” You say that in an attempt to denigrate what you don’t like.

As far as your “distracting them from the fact that they are not the true Church of Christ” sewage I don’t think most of them consider the Catholic Church to be any different than their own community (which of coure it is.) I don’t think it even registers to them. You seem to be CONSUMED with attacking their faith. They are not consumed with attacking the Catholic Church, even though it’s clear that you have been programmed to believe they are. I think you have too high an opinion of yourself to think they would even care that you are a Catholic Christian. Their focus is more on God, His Son and Eternal Salvation rather than attacking the Church. Your suggestion that they know the difference and that they are trying to distract themselves and others with exellence in music, singing, preaching and fellowship has me laughing out loud.
Again? I’ve had like one post in this topic and it had nothing bad to say about music or singing. I don’t know if you’re confusing me with someone else or something but that’s a bit unfair. And I never said music or singing was “happy-clappy”. I have nothing against it, we have had beautiful hymns and songs in both parishes I have attended. I was referring to pastors who focus on the “feel-good” aspects of faith rather than tackling serious issues and Biblical teaching.

Perhaps you have had different experiences than me. In my experience, people from other denominations have been very rude to me. On my page in another site I get frequent abuse from non-Catholic Christians. Yes, some have defended me but they are a minority. They really are consumed with attacking the Catholic Church. I’m not “programmed”, that is my experience.
It’s RARE, no, VERY RARE to witness a priest that preaches well around there parts. Please don’t make more excuses by trying to infer that one cannot be an excellent preacher AND confessor. That goes right along with “but we have the Eucharist.”

A friend of mine was ordained a priest about 2 years ago. He preaches WELL. The seminary HE attended finally got the message – teach the seminarians how to preach! They speak publically throughout their time in seminary. They preach outside of the Mass throughout seminary. He is an excellent homilist yet he has few natural gifts. I hope more seminaries stop the denial and begin preparing their seminarians for excellence in preaching as a priest.
I never said one cannot be both a good preacher and a good confessor, that is not what I said at all. I was merely saying that priests are not perfect, some may simply really struggle with preaching.
 
I know it’s not really your question, but I’m Orthodox, and I often attend Mass at a Catholic church in order to be able to worship in a language I understand.
That’s sort of fascinating. Do you attend Mass in addition to your Church’s own sacrificial liturgy? I know the Orthodox (and Eastern Catholics) don’t have the “Sunday Obligation” in the same way that Latin Rite Catholics do but what does your Orthodox pastor say about it?
 
Again? I’ve had like one post in this topic and it had nothing bad to say about music or singing. I don’t know if you’re confusing me with someone else or something but that’s a bit unfair. And I never said music or singing was “happy-clappy”. I have nothing against it, we have had beautiful hymns and songs in both parishes I have attended. I was referring to pastors who focus on the “feel-good” aspects of faith rather than tackling serious issues and Biblical teaching.

Perhaps you have had different experiences than me. In my experience, people from other denominations have been very rude to me. On my page in another site I get frequent abuse from non-Catholic Christians. Yes, some have defended me but they are a minority. They really are consumed with attacking the Catholic Church. I’m not “programmed”, that is my experience.

I never said one cannot be both a good preacher and a good confessor, that is not what I said at all. I was merely saying that priests are not perfect, some may simply really struggle with preaching.
“Happy-clappy”, huh? :rolleyes:
 
Although you don’t do it, I could see that if a Catholic regularly shared with fellow Catholics their enjoyment of preaching at XYZ church, some of them may be intrigued to join in or explore it on their own. I think preaching, specifically, is where I would express concern. I’m not suggesting there are rampant anti-Catholic sermons out there, as most of it is testimonials, stories, and/or teachings that the Catholic Church would not object to per se…but in the few that I have attended, there always seems to be some dosage of doctrinal conflict in the message. Perhaps the Catholic that would attend these would pick up quickly on those conflicts, and easily dismiss them. But some of them are subtle, and indirect…and I think over a lengthy time, it might set up a situation that fosters some doubt about Catholic teaching. Just a hunch, not an objective fact, mind you.

Also, you mentioned lack of fellowship…and I’m with you on that, assuming you meant after Mass, not during (wasn’t sure, because your wording earlier seemed to suggest you would like to see similar fellowship in the pews). Anyway, some Catholic parishes have excellent parishioner involvement, and convenient facilities to foster fellowship among the people. Most parishes I have been to do not, sadly.

But I think it’s difficult to have that atmosphere at Catholic parishes, simply because the whole parish is initially designed around solemn worship, and rightly so. But to take that original design and transform it into something accommodating to fellowship is difficult to do. Most parishes have small vestibules, and IF they have a community center, it’s way across the parking lot. You have to walk past your car, making a concerted effort to not drive away and get on with your day. I would hope people would have more motivation to not be swayed by the luring of secular activity on Sunday, but sadly they don’t seem to. But then again, we don’t know where they’re headed, do we? Perhaps they’re going down to the homeless shelter to serve, or to a bible study outside the parish, or a ministry meeting. We don’t know. Not* all *of them are going to watch football.

On the other hand, many bible-only churches with this high-energy fellowship are initially designed around…well, fellowship, not worship. Fellowship seems to be the primary architectural objective, and they do a very good job at it…most I’ve been to, you not only have energetic fellowship in the pews, but you walk out the door afterwards right into a big fellowship hall. It’s in the design of things. That’s the focus. Not saying I would like to see Catholic parishes designed this way. Not at all. I am partial to the old (cross) design, but it’s a shame we don’t have something other than the parking lot when we walk out of the church.

I digress. Sorry to all for the long post. I would caution you about the preaching part. But I see your point about fellowship…however still feel it’s something we should be spending our time in our own parishes trying to sow, rather than frequently escaping to other places away from Catholics where the garden is perhaps already ripe.

Peace.
End of story.
 
Greetings, all!

I have attended other services, and I, too enjoy the music, etc. Music REALLY speaks to me. **However, there is always something lacking in the services…and it is the Eucharist. **
At one point I had a similar point of view as I’ve seen posted - boorish, same thing over and over, music that didn’t inspire, no fellowship.

I have seen a change in my church. Most of it is due to our wonderful Pastor and his vision for the future. We just built a new Family Life Center on our Parish Plant. This was a huge accomplishment.

I have found that it’s not so much “what you get out” of the service, as “what you take into” the service. If the individual does not have a fulfilling relationship with God, then they are not going to be fulfilled wherever they go, and will continually search. Every person has to find their own way to God and develop that relationship. My children are not active in the church and I pray for them multiple times each day to find a relationship with God. IF they develop a relationship with Him even a fraction of what I feel, they will return to the church in a hurry and never leave…but I know this has to be in His time…

At one point I was in the mixed choir at church, but did not enjoy it becuase some of the older hymns do not appeal to me. Now I am blessed to be part of the music ministry for our Youth Mass and our Life Teen group. The kids have blessed me soooo much! The music we sing is just what I need and it’s where God has planted me - for now.

He calls my name, and I answer. I have learned to “Praise Him in the Storm,” I recognize His “Blessings” no matter how they are presented, and through all my trials that I go through I know He is using them to make me “Stronger”.
Makes no difference to me. I already attend Mass and usually the Divine Liturgy before this evening worship service.
 
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