Do you ever wear blue jeans to Sunday Mass?

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MaryAgnes said:
:hmmm: In Sacred Scripture Jesus never criticized someone’s attire … but he did criticize those who were judgmental.

I agree comletely It’s what’s in a person’s heart that matters, not what’s on their body.

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MaryAgnes said:
:hmmm: In Sacred Scripture Jesus never criticized someone’s attire … but he did criticize those who were judgmental.

Matthew 22:11-14
But when the king came in to meet the guests he saw a man there not dressed in a wedding garment.12 He said to him, ‘My friend, how is it that you came in here without a wedding garment?’ But he was reduced to silence.13 7 Then the king said to his attendants, 'Bind his hands and feet, and cast him into the darkness outside, where there will be wailing and grinding of teeth.'14 Many are invited, but few are chosen."
 
This girl in mass today…she was bringing up the gifts with her friend and her parents…she was wearing jeans with a studded belt and a REALLY tight,thin blue cap sleeve shirt (by the way, it was like 15 degrees today) which came up to expose her stomach, which, not too be mean or something, was kinda hanging over the top of her pants - she didn’t have the figure for this at all. (I mean, neither do I, I’m just sayin) So not only was the look trashy it was incredibly innappropriate for church, and more so for someone involved in the service. I was a little taken aback because I’ve seen people be casual in jeans or sweatshirts before, but this girl was dressed to go downtown to the bars or something. That is unacceptable I think in church. Jeans, etc…they look great compared to something like that!

I really had to wonder what her mother was thinking. This girl was like 16 or 17. I mean, the weather factor alone…:eek: I would have been freezin’ my butt off in there. 😛

I know I should have been concentrating on the mass, though and not checking out other people’s outfits. :o It just stood out so much, I was like, “what is she thinking??”

Anyway. Back to your regularly scheduled thread. 😃
 
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Celia:
I know I should have been concentrating on the mass, though and not checking out other people’s outfits. :o It just stood out so much, I was like, “what is she thinking??”

Anyway. Back to your regularly scheduled thread. 😃

I can understand this part. I try so hard not to loose concentration when at Mass, but when a lady gets up to do a reading in a boob tube :eek: its kind of hard!
 
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Celia:
I know I should have been concentrating on the mass, though and not checking out other people’s outfits. :o It just stood out so much, I was like, “what is she thinking??”

Anyway. Back to your regularly scheduled thread. 😃
My Dear, maybe the reason why you couldn’t concentrate on Mass was because this girl was dressed so inappropriately.

Come on people, this kind of lack of class is what we are trying to avoid. I don’t want my kids seeing this. I DO use inappropriate dress as a discussion point with them, but if those of us who are taken aback by inappropriate clothing are told they WE have the problem because they should be focusing on the Mass, isn’t that judgemental as well?

Celia, I would have been working hard at concentrating on the Mass myself!

Christ our KING, thy kingdom come.
 
netmil(name removed by moderator):
Have you seen some of the jeans?
My philosophy is that one wears his/her best. If you read my posts you will know that I just wore jeans for Benediction because it was my weekend to clean the bathrooms. There is a reason why a person may wear jeans EVEN when on a normal basis, one wears a dress.
As for what you said highlighted in pink
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You must not have kids or perhaps you don’t know them as well as you think.
Mine are 5 & 8. They notice what the teenagers wear and mention it in the car on the way home. Good example or bad example, it’s noticed.
First, I want to apologize, my comment might have been taken as a personal attack, which it was not meant to be.

I understand what you said, that is why I said, modest and clean cloths, including jeans. As well as that is met I have no issues with what others wear.

No I don’t have kids, and never personally will, but that does not change anything. I have dealt with children and will deal with them in the future. One must use those examples as best as you can. The argument that HagiaSophia brings up, “” well everybody else" does it. – How come she/he/they can do it and I can’t? Look at what everyone else’s parents let them wear…"

My answer to that is, who is the parent? You or your child? That argument never flew when I was a kid and it shouldn’t now.
 
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Celia:
This girl in mass today…she was bringing up the gifts with her friend and her parents…she was wearing jeans with a studded belt and a REALLY tight,thin blue cap sleeve shirt (by the way, it was like 15 degrees today) which came up to expose her stomach, which, not too be mean or something, was kinda hanging over the top of her pants - she didn’t have the figure for this at all. (I mean, neither do I, I’m just sayin) So not only was the look trashy it was incredibly innappropriate for church, and more so for someone involved in the service. I was a little taken aback because I’ve seen people be casual in jeans or sweatshirts before, but this girl was dressed to go downtown to the bars or something. That is unacceptable I think in church. Jeans, etc…they look great compared to something like that!

I really had to wonder what her mother was thinking. This girl was like 16 or 17. I mean, the weather factor alone…:eek: I would have been freezin’ my butt off in there. 😛

I know I should have been concentrating on the mass, though and not checking out other people’s outfits. :o It just stood out so much, I was like, “what is she thinking??”

Anyway. Back to your regularly scheduled thread. 😃
The problem here was very immodest attire, not the fact that this person was wearing jeans.

Seems that some people are equating jeans with immodesty.
 
I usually “dress up” for Mass—meaning dressy slacks, dress/skirt, as does my family. However, if we’re up north roughing it, or we’re going to Mass prior to going to a casual picnic or something of that nature, we may wear jeans if we have no time to change. I must say I feel a little uncomfortable if I wear jeans, but I think there are times when it’s appropriate. For the most part, I think people should wear their best—whatever that may be—to Mass.
 
So, do you guys think lectors should dress nicer for Mass? I’nm not totally opposed to blue jeans, but it seems to me that lectors will be ‘on stage’, so to speak, and should look nicer than Joe Schmo.
 
From Southern California:

**Yesterday at Mass I seemed to pay more attention than I usually do to the way people were dressed because of this thread. **

Here are some of the things I noticed:

**1. If the parents were dressed casual (blue jeans, shorts, t-shirts, sweatshirts, flipflops, etc.) then usually their kids were dressed the same way. **

2. If the parents were dressed in Sunday best then usually their kids were dressed in Sunday best.

**3. In most cases (not all) the more casually dressed people were the ones who were talking in church before during (even during communion) and after Mass. **

4. In most cases (not all) the more casually dressed people were the ones who exited stage left after receiving communion.

5. In some instances the more casually dressed the people were the less they seemed to take care of personal hygiene. (noticed this mostly in the boys). I would bet money they just rolled out of bed and didn’t even bother to brush their hair. And no I don’t think it was the trendy messy look, some of these boys hair was flattened in the back of their heads. One final note: this parish is in a middle/upper class neigborhood.
 
After reading this thread I too took notice in mass yesterday. Normally I never look at what people wear but this thread really made me notice. I don’t like that because my focus should be on the mass and I glanced at what people were wearing. I think we can wear whatever we feel comfortable in but please have courtesy and wear appropriate clothing to mass. Jeans in my opinion are ok but they should be worn without any rips in them. 🙂
 
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GloriaPatri4:
Here are some of the things I noticed:

**1. If the parents were dressed casual (blue jeans, shorts, t-shirts, sweatshirts, flipflops, etc.) then usually their kids were dressed the same way. **

2. If the parents were dressed in Sunday best then usually their kids were dressed in Sunday best.
I agree with GloriPatri4. Parents set the precedent for children’s clothing almost every time.

There was a time years ago when I wore blue jeans to church. These days I feel more like a cowhand when I wear denims…I wear jeans to do dirty work like grocery shopping and yard work. These days I wear a neat modest skirt & top or dress to church. I try to avoid flamboyancy…expensive clothing…jewelry…bright colors and prints. Yesterday I wore an expensive long winter cashmere coat trimmed with velvet and I felt a bit flashy even though the colors were neutral :o ( the temperatures outside were in the single digits) …I guess that is still better than a long real fur coat…now that is way too flashy.
 
I never wear jeans to Sunday Mass, because I am an EMHC and am often called upon to serve, even if I am not on the schedule. Our pastor feels (and I agree) that it is inappropriate to wear jeans (or flip flops) at the alter. After doing it for this reason for a while, I came to the realization that I enjoyed dressing up for Mass, and that the extra effort I took helped me mentally/spiritually prepare for the Mass.
 
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ByzCath:
The problem here was very immodest attire, not the fact that this person was wearing jeans.

Seems that some people are equating jeans with immodesty.
Nope, as I said, I wear jeans to mass myself 🙂 and jeans look wonderful compared to what she was wearing. It was the shirt that was the problem with her outfit. People just need to use common sense is what I’m saying. You can look at an outfit and know when it isn’t proper for church. I mean, who looks at a tight belly shirt and says, “ohhh, this will be perfect to wear at mass on Sunday” :rolleyes: Jeans and other stuff can be quite modest if done correctly. Which I believe I do and I see a lot of others do in mass.
 
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Celia:
Nope, as I said, I wear jeans to mass myself 🙂 and jeans look wonderful compared to what she was wearing. It was the shirt that was the problem with her outfit. People just need to use common sense is what I’m saying. You can look at an outfit and know when it isn’t proper for church. I mean, who looks at a tight belly shirt and says, “ohhh, this will be perfect to wear at mass on Sunday” :rolleyes: Jeans and other stuff can be quite modest if done correctly. Which I believe I do and I see a lot of others do in mass.
I totally agree with you. 👍
 
MaryAgnes said:
:hmmm: In Sacred Scripture Jesus never criticized someone’s attire … but he did criticize those who were judgmental.

The apostles gave guidelines for attire too. Are we to think them judgmental?! I also think Christ would criticize someone wearing a pair of jeans with their thong showing. Once again, the catechism states:

1387 To prepare for worthy reception of this sacrament, the faithful should observe the fast required in their Church.220 Bodily demeanor (gestures, clothing) ought to convey the respect, solemnity, and joy of this moment when Christ becomes our guest

So, I guess that would make the Catholic Church judgmental too?
 
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ByzCath:
The problem here was very immodest attire, not the fact that this person was wearing jeans.

Seems that some people are equating jeans with immodesty.
Byz, my problem isn’t with denim either. My problem is with a whole lot of people dressing up for anything else but Mass with no excuse. They wouldn’t think of casual attire to a wedding but they show up at a Mass every week dresses in them Now, I don’t judge the individual because we don’t know what their circumstances be but, as a whole, the congregations by the majority (at least in my neck of the woods) are rather sloppy and you can bet they dress up for other events. Not all 400 don’t have something better to wear.
 
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spiritblows:
So, do you guys think lectors should dress nicer for Mass? I’nm not totally opposed to blue jeans, but it seems to me that lectors will be ‘on stage’, so to speak, and should look nicer than Joe Schmo.
Yes, if they are able.
 
When we go to Mass we should dress in a respectful,
perhaps even slightly subdued
manner, wearing the best we have for God.


Dress at Mass
By Jonathan S. Toborowsky

A small pamphlet spells out a golf course’s dress code clearly. On the course, “Men must wear shirts with a collar or turtleneck shirts,” “All shirts must be tucked in,” “All hats must be worn peak forward and outdoors only.” In the country club dining room, “Jacket and tie are required for gentlemen aged 17 and over at all times,” “Ladies must wear a dress, skirt, or slacks,” and no matter where you are, “Jeans, denim, and sweat clothes are not tolerated anywhere on the property.” Does this seem harsh? Do we look down on the country club’s rules? Do we worry about the need for the members and their guests to be comfortable whether on the course or sitting at table? Should the club’s owner just be happy that people are coming? Probably not; most likely people appreciate the atmosphere that is created when people are dressed up. They might even look forward to dressing up for dinner at the country club, as a fancy night out.

Can you imagine what would happen if we printed a similar card with guidelines of how to dress for Mass on Sunday? What if ushers enforced this “dress code” as diligently as the country club enforces their rules for dress? What sort of letters would we receive at the parish office? How many telephone calls would the Bishop’s office receive? What happens to our desire to dress up when it comes to Sunday Mass? Why is it that the only times we will dress a little nicer when going to church is for a baptism, a wedding, or a funeral? Sadly, it seems that the reasons people find to dress up on the Lord’s Day have more to do with where we are going after Mass than our attendance at the Mass itself. Perhaps our understanding of what truly takes place at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass has diminished in past years. So like any good gardener, rather than simply pulling the weed out, let’s attack the root.

So just what happens at Mass? Suppose an alien were to land on the church’s front lawn on a Saturday evening or Sunday morning and wander into the building to look around. In making his report home, he would perhaps think this gathering an opportunity to come together to exchange local gossip, read funny stories, and be entertained for forty-five minutes (less if you arrive late and leave early, but that’s a whole other article). Whole books have been written on the topic of understanding the Mass, so how can we keep it “short and sweet”? The Catechism of the Catholic Church gives a simple yet profoundly deep description in paragraph 1382:

The Mass is at the same time, and inseparably, the sacrificial memorial in which the sacrifice of the cross is perpetuated and the sacred banquet of communion with the Lord’s body and blood. But the celebration of the Eucharistic sacrifice is wholly directed toward the intimate union of the faithful with Christ through communion. To receive communion is to receive Christ himself who offered himself for us.

Moreover the Catechism recognizes the need for outward signs of our inward understanding of just what is happening at Mass. “Bodily demeanor (gestures, clothing) ought to convey the respect, solemnity, and joy of this moment when Christ becomes our guest” (CCC #1387). Jesus Christ himself, not a symbol, not a reminder, but the man himself, becomes substantially present in the Eucharistic host. Each time we receive Communion, our hearts should be echoing the words of the Apostle John as he recognized the risen Christ on the seashore: “It is the Lord!” Truly it is the Lord who comes to dwell within us; how can that moment cause anything but an attitude of reverence and awe? A nineteenth-century Anglican clergyman, Gerard Moultrie, once translated a Byzantine liturgical hymn from the 400s which was sung during the Divine Liturgy at the presentation of the gifts. In what could be called a musical/ecumenical move, he combined the words of a Byzantine-rite hymn with the music of a Latin-rite hymn, and we are forever indebted to him for this powerful anthem. Fr. George Rutler, writing in his 1998 work, Brightest and Best—Stories of Hymns (available from Ignatius Press), calls this hymn “a sublime antidote to the lamentable musical trivia that has so mutilated the psychology of Catholic worship as it is ordinarily encountered.” This truly is the mystery of faith:

please continue reading: catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/Homiletic/2000-06/toborowsky.html
 
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