Let’s say …
An UN-Churched crack addict checks into a hotel and finds a Bible in the drawer and starts reading it.
and let’s say he never gets to leave that hotel room and he dies a few days later from heart damage, was there sufficient information on what is required for his own salvation in the Bible for him to get to heaven?
The ID numbers ADDED by PJM
[1] In other words, is there enough information and instruction in the Scripture alone for him to be saved , or did he NEED more information from outside sources in addition to the Bible?
Note: I am NOT claiming that just reading the Bible will give anyone salvation.
Note: I am not claiming to know anyone’s heart.
Note: I am not saying that Scripture cannot be summarized orally.
Note:I didn’t ask about whether it would be understood.
(An analogy: If I have in-depth bicycle assembly instructions written in Japanese: but I don’t read Japanese.
Are the instructions sufficient to assemble a bike : or are the instructions missing something?)
I not asking if you can understand Japanese, Greek , Latin , or German, or even if you can read at all.
[2] Regarding the knowledge for salvation: what is the Catholic Church’s position on the sufficiency of Scripture?
[3] Is Scripture missing information required for salvation?
[4]
In regards to salvation; What is scripture missing?
REPLY:
VERY Clever POST & questions
[1] That is dependent upon BOTH God’s grace and the persons ability and WILLINGNESS to be enabled to accept it and then rightly apply it.
[2] The Catholic Church who ALONE can and is able to teach the FULLNESS of the Faith taught to Her through the Apostles HOLDS that there are 3 , related but independent sources to discover the FULLNESS of Jesus’ TRUE Faith
Sacred Tradition
Mark 7:9
And he said to them: Well do you make void the commandment of God, that you may keep your own tradition.
2 Thes 3:6
And we charge you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw yourselves from every brother walking disorderly, and not according to the tradition which they have received of us.
The Bible:
2nd Tim 3:16-17
[16] All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice, [17] That the man of God may be perfect, furnished to every good work.
Matthew 4:4
Who answered and said: It is written, Not in bread alone doth man live, but in every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God.
The Magisterium of the RCC
Mt 16:18-19
And I say to YOU: That YOU art Peter; and upon [YOU Peter] this rock
I will build my church [singular], and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to YOU [exclusively] the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever YOU shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever YOU shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven
Jn 17: 17-20
"Sanctify them in truth. Thy word is truth.
As thou hast sent me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. [19] And
for them do I sanctify myself, that they also may be sanctified in truth.
[And not for them only do I pray, but for them also who through their word shall believe in me;
Mt 28: 19-20
"Going therefore, teach YOU [singular] all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. T
eaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded YOU:** and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.**
[3] It HAS to be missing something OR:
There would be NO Catholic & therefore no Christian faith & church in existence today
The EARLY CC did not have access to the bile in its present form until the 4th Century, and existed and GREW W/O the bible for at least 60+ years.
[4] THAT NOT everything is to be expected to be in the Bible
Jn 20:33-31 "Many other signs also did Jesus in the sight of his disciples, which are not written in this book. But these are written, that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God: and that believing, you may have life in his name.
Jn 21: 24-25 “This is that disciple who giveth testimony of these things, and hath written these things; and we know that his testimony is true. But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written.”
THE REAL PROBLEM FRIEND IS NOT ONLY IS NOT EVERYTHING IN THE BIBLE; BUT WHAT IS IN THE BIBLE IS SOOOOO VERY OFTEN NOT UNDERSTTOOD, NOT BELIEVED, NOT ACCEPTED.
The Primacy of Peter & the RCC
The Sacraments [7 of them]
The Forgiveness of sin GODS way
The Real Presence
The FACT that nowhere in the bible; NOT 1 time is there an example of GOD’ Yahweh or Jesus ever:
Accepting competing faith beliefs
Being OK with other faith beliefs
Tolerant of differing faith beliefs
Simply ignoring other faith beliefs
So friend how do YOU respond to that?
And, where in the bible is the factual justification for competing faith /churches:shrug:
VERY CLEVER my friend, I answered you, WILL YOU answer me?
God Bless you,
PJM**
