Do you know when the sacrament of ordination to the priesthood was invented. As it was not in what saint Paul defined in Ephesians the 5 fold ministry

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Do you know when the sacrament of orders the priesthood was invented?as it was not in what saint Paul defined in Ephesians. The 5 fold ministry. ?
 
I think it all started when Jesus called, taught, and commissioned the apostles.
 
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Do you know when the sacrament of orders the priesthood was invented?as it was not in what saint Paul defined in Ephesians. The 5 fold ministry. ?
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St. Paul didn’t define/create the priesthood. Christ did.
 
Christ appointed the apostles. They were the first priests of the new covenant. He gave them the power to offer His sacrifice under the form of bread and wine and to forgive sin in his name (see John 20). We see in the Acts that the apostles in turn appointed “elders” in every town to continue their ministry.
 
It is recorded in John 20:22.
And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. Again Jesus said to them, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent Me, so also I am sending you.” If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you withhold forgiveness from anyone, it is withheld.”
 
When St. Paul speaks of the “laying on of hands” he is usually speaking of this sacrament (in some places in Scripture, Confirmation is referred to in this way–the context is usually clear enough to distinguish which is which).
 
The visible priesthood began when God had Moses ordain Aaron and his sons. Jesus instituted the priesthood of the New Covenant at the Last Supper, when He washed the feet of the apostles as Moses would have done, and told them which sacrifice it was that they would be offering. It wasn’t “invented” by anyone. If you claim to be Catholic, then you should know better.
 
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To provide Catholic teaching on this, the Church has officially declared that the priesthood was instituted by Christ. See the official statement by the Council of Trent:

"On the institution of the Priesthood of the New Law.

Sacrifice and priesthood are, by the ordinance of God, in such wise conjoined, as that both have existed in every law. Whereas, therefore, in the New Testament, the Catholic Church has received, from the institution of Christ, the holy visible sacrifice of the Eucharist; it must needs also be confessed, that there is, in that Church, a new, visible, and external priesthood, into which the old has been translated. And the sacred Scriptures show, and the tradition of the Catholic Church has always taught, that this priesthood was instituted by the same Lord our Saviour, and that to the apostles, and their successors in the priesthood, was the power delivered of consecrating, offering, and administering His Body and Blood, as also of forgiving and of retaining sins."
 
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The Sacrament of Ordination to the priesthood was invented by Christ.
 
I would never use the term ‘invented’ to describe any one of the holy sacraments. They were instituted by Our Lord. He instituted the priesthood at the Last Supper. Priests renew their priestly commitments every year at the annual Chrism Mass. It is because the priesthood was instituted at the Last Supper that the Chrism Mass was celebrated on Maundy (a.k.a. Holy) Thursday; although, in many places it is now, lamentably, celebrated on a different day.
 
And 1 Cor 12:28? The term presbyter was originally Bishop/Elder. The English word priest is derived from presbyter. Originally in scripture they were indistinguishable and as the church grew the bishop and priest took on specific roles episcopas and presbyter with the bishop as administrator of larger areas than just a single church, what today is referred to as a diocese. The presbyter (priest) the head of a particular church.

The term apostle, one who is sent, was the original priest bishop and administrator.

The church isn’t static, it grew, it’s type being found in the OT.

Peace and God Bless
Nicene
 
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As regards ordination that is found in acts with the “laying on of hands” to ordain others, also found in Timothy and Acts 6:3-7 and 14:28. 1 Cor predates Ephesians so where does the term 5 fold ministry come from when the list is longer in Corinthians? Also not a term found in sacred scripture.

Peace and God Bless
Nicene
 
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