Do You Know Your Catholic Faith?

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I agree with this wholeheartedly and I’m a skeptical sort who has to play the scholar (I was one of those that looked forward to going to school:rolleyes:). Before I converted I read the entire CCC, listened every afternoon to CA on the radio for an entire summer and read anything about the true teaching of the Church I could lay my hands on. I know that as much as I read/learn about the Church, there is always something that I don’t understand and that in order to understand those things I need to first believe and be obedient - then the understanding comes. Actually, I’d been praying the Dominican rosary for 5 years before conversion (and I have no idea as to why I started it 🤷 - Mary:thumbsup:) and looking back now I can see practically a beeline toward the Church during that time. I credit my conversion to praying the Rosary daily and the learning was a mere tool.
I am trying to find the exact scriptural quote about God choosing the foolish of the world to confound the wise. A Nazarene minister and I discussed this very verse and the difficulty each of us had when it comes to taking God at His Word. Each of us recognized our own intelligence. It is important to acknowledge this intelligence as a gift. Yet this very gift can stand in the way of the simple expression of faith demonstrated in the lives of many in his congregation. Jesus said that we were to become like little children. We see this type of faith in children receiving their First Communion. It can also be seen in those who may not be as educated as I.

The rosary began with peasants working in the field who lacked the time and opportunity to recite the Psalms heard coming from nearby monasteries.
 
I am trying to find the exact scriptural quote about God choosing the foolish of the world to confound the wise. A Nazarene minister and I discussed this very verse and the difficulty each of us had when it comes to taking God at His Word. Each of us recognized our own intelligence. It is important to acknowledge this intelligence as a gift. Yet this very gift can stand in the way of the simple expression of faith demonstrated in the lives of many in his congregation. Jesus said that we were to become like little children. We see this type of faith in children receiving their First Communion. It can also be seen in those who may not be as educated as I.

The rosary began with peasants working in the field who lacked the time and opportunity to recite the Psalms heard coming from nearby monasteries.
A few well-known examples of the foolish of the world confounding the wise are St. Bernadette, the children at Fatima and St. Juan Diego.
Intelligence sure can stand in the way! I personally know of a number of examples. Intelligence is a gift, but I really think that Faith is a larger one, as are Hope and Love!
 
Intelligence sure can stand in the way! I personally know of a number of examples. Intelligence is a gift, but I really think that Faith is a larger one, as are Hope and Love!
Pride, which can be brought about by unenlightened intelligence, definitely gets in the way, but not intelligence in and of itself. St. Bernadette was not schooled but she had a penetrating intelligence which allowed her to be faithful to the mission she was given despite the cunning ways of her adversaries. Intelligence does not only mean scholarly studies and intellectual pursuits but it is also the ability to understand and comprehend truths. Lucia, during one of the Apparitions, was told by Our Lady to learn her letters because ignorance does not serve our spiritual life well. Just like all other appetites of the soul, if not tempered and mortified, it can be misused and lead one to sin. The great heresies of our Catholic Church were met head on by the Fathers of the Church who were intelligent men filled with Faith, Hope and Love. The Church has been served well through the centuries by the intelligence I am talking about. A great many Catholics are swayed from their faith because of arguments they don’t understand. In this day and age, we do not only need simple faith but an informed faith because we are living in a world governed by ideologies and half-truths. But I think I understand what you are trying to convey.
 
Pride, which can be brought about by unenlightened intelligence, definitely gets in the way, but not intelligence in and of itself. St. Bernadette was not schooled but she had a penetrating intelligence which allowed her to be faithful to the mission she was given despite the cunning ways of her adversaries. Intelligence does not only mean scholarly studies and intellectual pursuits but it is also the ability to understand and comprehend truths. Lucia, during one of the Apparitions, was told by Our Lady to learn her letters because ignorance does not serve our spiritual life well. Just like all other appetites of the soul, if not tempered and mortified, it can be misused and lead one to sin. The great heresies of our Catholic Church were met head on by the Fathers of the Church who were intelligent men filled with Faith, Hope and Love. The Church has been served well through the centuries by the intelligence I am talking about. A great many Catholics are swayed from their faith because of arguments they don’t understand. In this day and age, we do not only need simple faith but an informed faith because we are living in a world governed by ideologies and half-truths. But I think I understand what you are trying to convey.
I definitely agree with what you say and stand corrected in my use of the word “intelligence”!
 
Brigid,
I agree with your post 21. When all else has passed away, all that remains is faith, hope, and love. The greatest gift of all is love.
Our intelligence is to accepted as the gift that it is. It informs our faith.
The point you and I were making with our preceding posts was how this special gift can lead to scholarly questioning to the point of being an obstacle to faith.
This questioning is not always a bad thing as it helps us respond to the questions of skeptics. I recently found an anti-Catholic evangelistic flyer. An uneducated faith could easily be swayed by the superficial arguments used. For example, the term “pope” will not be found in scripture. However, when the Apostles are listed, Peter is named first. He is also the spokesman for the entire apostolic college when the early Church was being persecuted. Acts says the early believers submitted to the teachings to the Apostles, God’s covenant is irrevocable, a point with which all Christians believe. Therefore, the Holy Spirit would never abandon the Church established upon Peter, the rock.
When I listen to criticisms of mainline churches, I see where these criticisms come from congregations that have not gone through the persecutions that tested the Church by fire.
Our scholarly intelligence leads us to research questions to which we do not have the answers. A person of simple faith, lacking our educational background, may simply say “I know what I saw” and leave it at that. He/she may list how God has worked his his/her life while giving thanks for everything received. They are not swayed by arguments and refuse to be drawn in.
With the faith of a child we accept the gift of faith. Children have a natural curiosity and desire to learn. As we grow and develop in our faith, we use what we have learned to answer the skeptics, researching the questions that develop, and using the answers we find in our response to nonbelievers.
A freeing statement from the orientation to the Theology class I never took dealt with finding answers in the Bible. “When reading scripture, look for the questions not the answres.” It is in looking for the questions that I have found answers. A scholar seeks through research to answer questions for which their may be no answers. Research can lead to arguments that silence the skeptics. Of course, we never want to overlook that word of knowledge directly received from God that silences our inner skeptic.
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Brigid,
I agree with your post 21. When all else has passed away, all that remains is faith, hope, and love. The greatest gift of all is love.
Our intelligence is to accepted as the gift that it is. It informs our faith.
The point you and I were making with our preceding posts was how this special gift can lead to scholarly questioning to the point of being an obstacle to faith.

This is true in my family - all very intelligent people with lots of education; the ones with the most education are the ones most averse to the Catholic Church. The “enlightenment” has caught them and their intellectual pride won’t allow them to submit to anyone else. It’s sad (at least, for now :crossrc:).

This questioning is not always a bad thing as it helps us respond to the questions of skeptics. I recently found an anti-Catholic evangelistic flyer. An uneducated faith could easily be swayed by the superficial arguments used. For example, the term “pope” will not be found in scripture. However, when the Apostles are listed, Peter is named first. He is also the spokesman for the entire apostolic college when the early Church was being persecuted. Acts says the early believers submitted to the teachings to the Apostles, God’s covenant is irrevocable, a point with which all Christians believe. Therefore, the Holy Spirit would never abandon the Church established upon Peter, the rock.
When I listen to criticisms of mainline churches, I see where these criticisms come from congregations that have not gone through the persecutions that tested the Church by fire.

Having converted from a mainline protestant denomination, that’s a very interesting statement that sounds right. I’ll have to think on it more.

Our scholarly intelligence leads us to research questions to which we do not have the answers. A person of simple faith, lacking our educational background, may simply say “I know what I saw” and leave it at that. He/she may list how God has worked his his/her life while giving thanks for everything received. They are not swayed by arguments and refuse to be drawn in.

My spiritual experiences do not allow for any deviation, it’s true. People will come up with numerous arguments to my beliefs (and certainly have) and it doesn’t sway me - however it is true that I’ve needed to do a lot of learning both originally for my own skepticism and to give an answer to those same people eg. evangelize.

With the faith of a child we accept the gift of faith. Children have a natural curiosity and desire to learn. As we grow and develop in our faith, we use what we have learned to answer the skeptics, researching the questions that develop, and using the answers we find in our response to nonbelievers.
A freeing statement from the orientation to the Theology class I never took dealt with finding answers in the Bible. “When reading scripture, look for the questions not the answres.” It is in looking for the questions that I have found answers. A scholar seeks through research to answer questions for which their may be no answers. **Research can lead to arguments that silence the skeptics. Of course, we never want to overlook that word of knowledge directly received from God that silences our inner skeptic.
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brigid12:
Having converted from a mainline protestant denomination, that’s a very interesting statement that sounds right. I’ll have to think on it more.
Actually I was referring to statements I heard from members of non-denominational churches that criticized mainline protestant churches while praying for the conversion of Catholics.
It does need to be kept in mind that the Assembly of God and other Pentecostal churches developed because the mainline protestant churches to which their members originally belonged did not recognize the charisms. The Catholic Church, on the other hand, has always recognized the charisms as a work of the Holy Spiirit. This discussion is taking place on a different thread and does not need to be pursued here.
Christians have been persecuted since the days of the Apostles. Martyr actually means witness. Not all of us are called to witness with our lives. However, we are all called to witness by how we live.
 
What does your baptism as a Catholic mean to you? What do your beliefs as Catholic mean to you? Does your Catholic Faith impact your life for better or for worse?
 
What does your baptism as a Catholic mean to you? What do your beliefs as Catholic mean to you? Does your Catholic Faith impact your life for better or for worse?
Well, I was actually baptized Lutheran (I’m a convert.) My baptism was a starting point on my journey to the Catholic Church. That was when God called me as His child. My confirmation as a Catholic was my chance to stand up and acknowledge that I have studied the Catholic Faith and that I believe that it is Truth. My beliefs as a Catholic mean everything to me as they define how I relate to God. (I’m trying to keep this brief- could go on for pages.) The sacraments are so wonderful as they bring me God’s grace and help to strengthen me. The Eucharist brings me face to face with Jesus!!! I would say my Catholic faith impacts my life for better.

It took me about 12 years to get being Catholic. The more I read about the teachings of the Catholic church, the more convinced I became that it is the Church that Christ founded. That is the most concise way I can come up with to anser what my beliefs as a Catholic mean to me and why I am a Catholic.
 
Well, I was actually baptized Lutheran (I’m a convert.) My baptism was a starting point on my journey to the Catholic Church. That was when God called me as His child. My confirmation as a Catholic was my chance to stand up and acknowledge that I have studied the Catholic Faith and that I believe that it is Truth. My beliefs as a Catholic mean everything to me as they define how I relate to God. (I’m trying to keep this brief- could go on for pages.) The sacraments are so wonderful as they bring me God’s grace and help to strengthen me. The Eucharist brings me face to face with Jesus!!! I would say my Catholic faith impacts my life for better.

It took me about 12 years to get being Catholic. The more I read about the teachings of the Catholic church, the more convinced I became that it is the Church that Christ founded. That is the most concise way I can come up with to anser what my beliefs as a Catholic mean to me and why I am a Catholic.
Thank you for sharing! Welcome Home!
 
Let us get down to some articles of our Catholic Faith. Why do we believe and honor Mary, the Mother of Jesus? How will you explain her to your non-believing friends in a simple but truthful way? What are your own convictions about Mary? Remember now, you can only give what you have.🙂
 
Let us get down to some articles of our Catholic Faith. Why do we believe and honor Mary, the Mother of Jesus? How will you explain her to your non-believing friends in a simple but truthful way? What are your own convictions about Mary? Remember now, you can only give what you have.🙂
I begin with the Annunciation in which Gabriel greeted Mary and prophesied that she would be called “blessed by all generations.” Without Mary’s fiat, there would be no salvation. Mary became the Ark that carried the New Covenant. She remained (and remains) with her son throughout his earthly journey.
At the cross, Jesus gave Mary, his mother, to his beloved apostle John, the only one to stay with him through his tribulation. In doing so, John took on the responsibility of caring for Mary’s earthly needs. Why would such an ordinary act be recorded in scripture? In placing Mary in John’s care, he also gave her to each of us, to be our mother as well.
The best way that I heard Mary explained is by a Marianist priest. Mary is not the mother of God, the trinity. Mary is the mother of the man, Jesus, who is God. This explanation points to Mary’s human nature, that of a creature preserved from sin that she might carry the divine.
When you honor the mother, you honor the son. Again, from the same Marianist priest, "What son would not be happy when his mother is given a bouquet of roses?
Following on what St. Louis de Montfort taught, Mary takes the dandelion (our prayer) that we picked and places it in a special vase to be carried on a tray to Jesus, our king.
The Hail Mary is a scriptural prayer that repeats Gabriel;s greeting and asks for Mary’s intersession. Jesus remained an obedient son in the home of Mary and Joseph. Jesus did not refuse his mother at Cana where he performed His first miracle. The rosary is one way that we present Mary with our roses, praying through her while reflecting on the life of Christ. .
 
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