Do you place as much emphasis on His Eucharist as you do the Bible?

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Herculees said:
I always say to people who profess Sola Scriptura that they choose when to obey the pope and when they choose not to obey him, and they choose when to live in accordance with the Bible and when not to.

I then point to the fact that the Bible says we are to reserve the sabaath to worship our Lord. I point out that Saturday is the sabaath NOT Sunday. They worship on Sunday because the Pope proclaimed that we are to Worship God on Sunday as Sunday is the day Christ rose from the dead and are faith is nothing if God never rose.

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I think we as Christians worship on Sunday because Christ rose from the dead on Sunday, and because the early Church chose to worship on Sunday. So, which pope of the early Church chose Sunday?
On the Lord’s Day of the Lord come together, break bread and hold Eucharist, after confessing your transgressions that your offering may be pure; - Didache 14
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JonNC said:
I think we as Christians worship on Sunday because Christ rose from the dead on Sunday, and because the early Church chose to worship on Sunday. So, which pope of the early Church chose Sunday?
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Peter 😉

The rest of the Apostles wanted Tuesday.

Universal Jurisdiction came through again. 😉
 
alwayswill said:
The importance of the Eucharist compared to Scripture is directly related to whether or not it is propitiatory.

If Communion actually .appeases the wrath of God, that would make a huge difference in its importance.
It would literally be on the same level of Christ going to the Cross.

That’s why I ask

Was the Last Supper propitiatory?
Is the wrath of God appeased at Communion?
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The wrath of God was appeased on the Cross but one time and that is something every Catholic believes. Communion is important because the reception of it was commanded by Christ (and I am sure you are familiar with the verses).
 
JonNC said:
I think we as Christians worship on Sunday because Christ rose from the dead on Sunday, and because the early Church chose to worship on Sunday. So, which pope of the early Church chose Sunday?
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I’m thinking you are right… but I do wonder at what point this was established.
Duane1966 said:
Peter 😉

The rest of the Apostles wanted Tuesday.

Universal Jurisdiction came through again. 😉
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:D… kids eat free on Tuesday! Too bad
 
JonNC said:
Matthew does not designate a pope with universal jurisdiction , even though it does testify to a leadership role for Peter among the apostles.
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Universal Church jurisdiction evolved as the new Christian faith grew. There is more than enough evidence from the writings of the Early Church Fathers that this was the case.
 
JonNC said:
Matthew does not designate a pope with universal jurisdiction , even though it does testify to a leadership role for Peter among the apostles.
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I didn’t realize you were serious. Sorry. Maybe Acts 9:32a might help?
 
Herculees said:
I always say to people who profess Sola Scriptura that they choose when to obey the pope and when they choose not to obey him, and they choose when to live in accordance with the Bible and when not to.
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Hi Herculees. Nice to see more Maronites on the forum. I’m curious what effect this ^^ has on them.
 
JonNC said:
Matthew does not designate a pope with universal jurisdiction , even though it does testify to a leadership role for Peter among the apostles.
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Please elaborate on that, Jon. 🙂

And what do you think of leadership in Christianity - is it from the initial group of apostles or people outside of this cycle? Is Christianity universal, and if so, would not its leader therefore universal too?
 
JonNC said:
Matthew does not designate a pope with universal jurisdiction , even though it does testify to a leadership role for Peter among the apostles.
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See the problem with sola scriptura? I clearly see the doctrine of Universal Jurisdiction in John 21, Acts, and outside the bible in the epistle of Clement, and in the first Council of Nicaea…but you see it differently.

I do not want to derail this thread Jon. When I posted the Peter answer, it was meant to make you laugh.

I will gladly continue a conversation on this through private messaging.
 
JonNC said:
Did Peter know he was the pope, with universal jurisdiction?
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In John 21:16-17 we see Jesus asking Peter if he loves him. Of course he does, we also see Jesus telling Peter to “Tend” his sheep and to “Feed” his sheep. With this same love Peter has for Jesus, Peter will bring us into Christ

16 “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” He said to him, “Tend my sheep.”

17 “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” Peter was distressed that he had said to him a third time, “Do you love me?” and he said to him, “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you.” [Jesus] said to him, “Feed my sheep.
 
Duane1966 said:
See the problem with sola scriptura? I clearly see the doctrine of Universal Jurisdiction in John 21, Acts, and outside the bible in the epistle of Clement, and in the first Council of Nicaea…but you see it differently.

I do not want to derail this thread Jon. When I posted the Peter answer, it was meant to make you laugh.

I will gladly continue a conversation on this through private messaging.
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You’re right - wrong thread. And I did laugh, because I understand the nature of your post.
My apology.
 
The reason Jesus placed so much emphasis on His Eucharist in John 6, is because of the context which the Jews were questioning Him. They said that Moses gave them Manna to eat during their journey in the wilderness. So Jesus replies with what He will leave with believers in the New Covenant after they are delivered and are on their journey. The Jews ask Him, what work will He do and what sign will He give them? Jesus reveals to them more than they can possibly understand, because they need faith to remain with Him until He fulfills His Word. His own Body and Blood will be offered for the ransom of captivity in sin, then perpetually offered to keep the faithful in Himself.
 
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