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Duesenberg
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Please don’t lie like that on this thread.
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theCardinalbird
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So why can’t America limit their gun use?
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jcrichton
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Jon, language is flat but for the injection of color and spices into it–grant me the ability to exaggerate (armed to teeth, shooting up nature).
How many people have you witness going into the woods with newspapers in their hands to take on nature?
…so when people such as the murderer in Las Vegas pile up on guns, does that reflect the 300 own by the 100?
Can you not see that having two sets of golf clubs is nothing (unless that person is a total metal head) but building up arsenals or having access to them is one of the common elements of shooters? Here’s how it looks:
Maran atha!
Angel
How many people have you witness going into the woods with newspapers in their hands to take on nature?
…so when people such as the murderer in Las Vegas pile up on guns, does that reflect the 300 own by the 100?
Can you not see that having two sets of golf clubs is nothing (unless that person is a total metal head) but building up arsenals or having access to them is one of the common elements of shooters? Here’s how it looks:
The more we romanticize about guns the more the nut-jobs (no, I don’t mean mentally ill) will seek to glorify their existence through the love they hold for guns and violence.
Maran atha!
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SuperLuigi
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It depends on who you ask. Some people think guns are more trouble than they are worth, others feel the need to have one or a few or several.
You miss the point if you think that most gun owners are paranoid like a bounty hunter in an old spaghetti Western ready to draw at any second. Owning a gun for I would say most people is a responsibility and an after-thought, as in not something they obsess over. The whole idea is to AVOID using it, which is actually the POINT to #2A.
Owning a lot of guns doesn’t necessarily mean one is safer. The whole point is to be able to live your life and defend yourself, your family, your property and your neighbors, not to be macho about it. And while the gun control lobby evidently wishes that were the case so they could distract from the real issues that they lose on, it just ain’t so.
You miss the point if you think that most gun owners are paranoid like a bounty hunter in an old spaghetti Western ready to draw at any second. Owning a gun for I would say most people is a responsibility and an after-thought, as in not something they obsess over. The whole idea is to AVOID using it, which is actually the POINT to #2A.
Owning a lot of guns doesn’t necessarily mean one is safer. The whole point is to be able to live your life and defend yourself, your family, your property and your neighbors, not to be macho about it. And while the gun control lobby evidently wishes that were the case so they could distract from the real issues that they lose on, it just ain’t so.
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jcrichton
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Jon, did you not look at the statistics I presented?
When you have 60% of a group that has access to illegal gun, do you think that they are getting them from irreputable manufacturers, distributors, and vendors?
Maran atha!
Angel
When you have 60% of a group that has access to illegal gun, do you think that they are getting them from irreputable manufacturers, distributors, and vendors?
Maran atha!
Angel
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jcrichton
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Hi, Luigi!
I concur with you on the culture of a nation/people.
It is the reason why romanticizing guns and promoting hatred and aggression will continue to produce mass murderers.
If the media would report monsters for being monsters and not using these incidents to sell their stories, that would also serve to stem the “romantic” notions that have been built into the ethos of the culture.
Did you see the picture of Mr. Trump holding a rifle right on the wake of the murder rampage in Las Vegas?
Money and mongers talk!
Maran atha!
Angel
I concur with you on the culture of a nation/people.
It is the reason why romanticizing guns and promoting hatred and aggression will continue to produce mass murderers.
If the media would report monsters for being monsters and not using these incidents to sell their stories, that would also serve to stem the “romantic” notions that have been built into the ethos of the culture.
Did you see the picture of Mr. Trump holding a rifle right on the wake of the murder rampage in Las Vegas?
Money and mongers talk!
Maran atha!
Angel
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jcrichton
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Jamie, it is the same thing with police and other shootings (much more police since they can be targeted without much fear of reprisals).
Attention mongers are way at the front with their mumbo jumbo, ‘no more’ or ‘not again.’ Yet, once the cameras are off to the next drama (money making opportunity) these warriors for peace and justice go back to their cheese burgers and diet drinks.
Maran atha!
Angel
Attention mongers are way at the front with their mumbo jumbo, ‘no more’ or ‘not again.’ Yet, once the cameras are off to the next drama (money making opportunity) these warriors for peace and justice go back to their cheese burgers and diet drinks.
Maran atha!
Angel
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jcrichton
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Hi, Joe!
Money!
…and misguided belief that we are meant to have the birth right to own weapons “for self-defense.”
Reality hits us on the face daily with the issue of gun violence–you may have even read it right here (a few post prior) and those cases that hit the news (like the teen whose proud family brought her to the firing range and whose proud instructor gave her the machine gun by which he died as the girl was too inexperienced to handle)–but romanticism, pride, and stupidity puts the blinders on the average joes, while greed does the rest.
Maran atha!
Angel
Money!
…and misguided belief that we are meant to have the birth right to own weapons “for self-defense.”
Reality hits us on the face daily with the issue of gun violence–you may have even read it right here (a few post prior) and those cases that hit the news (like the teen whose proud family brought her to the firing range and whose proud instructor gave her the machine gun by which he died as the girl was too inexperienced to handle)–but romanticism, pride, and stupidity puts the blinders on the average joes, while greed does the rest.
Maran atha!
Angel
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jcrichton
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Luigi, are you intimating that a person in the US cannot speak his/her mind less they are ready to suffer consequences… what happen to the freedom thing?
Maran atha!
Angel
Maran atha!
Angel
I wonder what they would think about the computer technology available today.
And is that what the first amendment was intended to protect.
I already posted what the SCOTUS says the Second Amendment protects. It protects the right of individuals to keep and bear arms, and it lists as the primary purpose the necessity of the citizen militia to protect a free state from tyranny, both foreign and domestic.
Really? So, give me an instance where an abortionist’s main goal to save lives. How much self-defense is involved in an abortion? The vast majority of the 100,000,000 Americans who own guns don’t use them the way this guy did. 59 people were senselessly killed in Vegas. Do you know how many abortions took place that day?
So far this year there have been about 835,000 abortions. Last year roughly 6,000 people died due to gun violence not involving suicide, police shootings in the line of duty, and accidental shootings. Studies have shown that the number of times citizens deter or prevent crime in a year numbers far more often than that. The comparison of the two is breathtakingly inconceivable.
As for gay marriage, the simple difference is the right to keep and bear arms is historical, far longer than the existence of the United States. Further it is an enumerated right protected by the constitution. Gay marriage is neither. Now, the truth about gay marriage is that it has been legal for decades. All one had to do is visit the local Unitarian Universalist church. But a gay marriage was never used to save a life, free a fledgling nation, or shoot an animal to feed a family.
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Please answer my question. Is it your accusation that illegal guns are being sold by licensed dealers? If so, where is your proof?
Name your source.
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jcrichton
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…don’t forget the various battles on all the fronts… England was caught in its expansion quest.
What is interesting is that people keep thinking in terms of the colonies… a military power as that of the US cannot be challenged by militia… yes, it can be a thorn on its side; not it cannot topple the machinery of war.
So all this romance about inalienable “right” is confused with Faith–a state bent on destroying/oppressing its citizens will not be brought down by a few militia fighters. So instead of counting on access to guns we should be working to keep our government of the people and for the people.
Maran atha!
Angel
What is interesting is that people keep thinking in terms of the colonies… a military power as that of the US cannot be challenged by militia… yes, it can be a thorn on its side; not it cannot topple the machinery of war.
So all this romance about inalienable “right” is confused with Faith–a state bent on destroying/oppressing its citizens will not be brought down by a few militia fighters. So instead of counting on access to guns we should be working to keep our government of the people and for the people.
Maran atha!
Angel
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jcrichton
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Hi, Lily!
Excellent point.
This is the thing that keeps being missed by gun the trotters–yeah, guns don’t kill people, knuckleheads filled with anger and delusions of righteousness and a huge dose of romanticism of guns and violence do.
If we turn back to the wild-west, with the destructive power of guns today, there would be a built-in population control akin to that idiotic movie (the purge) which I refuse to watch.
Maran atha!
Angel
Excellent point.
This is the thing that keeps being missed by gun the trotters–yeah, guns don’t kill people, knuckleheads filled with anger and delusions of righteousness and a huge dose of romanticism of guns and violence do.
If we turn back to the wild-west, with the destructive power of guns today, there would be a built-in population control akin to that idiotic movie (the purge) which I refuse to watch.
Maran atha!
Angel
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jcrichton
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Hi, Trooper!
…yeah, that narrative went out many decades ago–lining of their pockets and profiting from their posts, yeah that’s the ticket!
Maran atha!
Angel
…yeah, that narrative went out many decades ago–lining of their pockets and profiting from their posts, yeah that’s the ticket!
Maran atha!
Angel
…don’t forget the various battles on all the fronts… England was caught in its expansion quest.
What is interesting is that people keep thinking in terms of the colonies… a military power as that of the US cannot be challenged by militia… yes, it can be a thorn on its side; not it cannot topple the machinery of war.
So, your philosophy is that, since you don’t think people can defend their liberty from government tyranny, we should take the tools away from them and give those tools to the government?
Gosh, I wish you would have told the Viet Cong that.
Clearly, the French resistance should have surrendered their arms.
There is a reason why tyrants always disarm the people.
The two most important tools to keep the general government honest are, 1) Article V of the constitution, and 2) the Second Amendment. Article V is the mechanism by which the people through the states can eliminate, if the choose, the general government. Remember, the general government is a creation of the states. The second amendment reminds the general government that armed protection of a free state is an option, a last resort.
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jcrichton
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Hi, Tis!
…so ‘feel good’ don’t shoot me is the answer?
If people do not speak out during such horrific events, do you think that the gun issue will just go away?
Again, how many automatic weapons does it take to take down bamby and how many news reports have demonstrated that home-break-ins have been stopped by every member of the family having access to at least one gun?
Maran atha!
Angel
…so ‘feel good’ don’t shoot me is the answer?
If people do not speak out during such horrific events, do you think that the gun issue will just go away?
Again, how many automatic weapons does it take to take down bamby and how many news reports have demonstrated that home-break-ins have been stopped by every member of the family having access to at least one gun?
Maran atha!
Angel
“You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before.” - Rahm Emanuel
Of course, the gun violence in his own city, despite strict gun control laws, seems a minor distraction to him.
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jcrichton
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What, me lie?:
All of the weapons were legal–I cite that as proof that there is a problem with the “gun control” issue; which, to my pedestrian mind, brings us right back to the manufacturers, distributers, and vendors!
Maran atha!
Agnel
This is your statement!
All of the weapons were legal–I cite that as proof that there is a problem with the “gun control” issue; which, to my pedestrian mind, brings us right back to the manufacturers, distributers, and vendors!
Maran atha!
Agnel
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jcrichton
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Joe, ever seen movies depicting gun violence?
It’s the ultimate virtual romance: kill, destroy and get away with it.
…problem is, as much of hollowood’s tenets, it does not translate well when introduced into our reality.
So the gun industry sells the weapons through the romanticized ‘guns don’t kill’ slogan. Politicians don’t think that a little red once in a while is much of a loss compare to all that green that they can enjoy:
Maran atha!
Angel
It’s the ultimate virtual romance: kill, destroy and get away with it.
…problem is, as much of hollowood’s tenets, it does not translate well when introduced into our reality.
So the gun industry sells the weapons through the romanticized ‘guns don’t kill’ slogan. Politicians don’t think that a little red once in a while is much of a loss compare to all that green that they can enjoy:
Maran atha!
Angel
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starshiptrooper
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Violent crime has been on a steady decline all while movies and video games have become more violent.
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