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starshiptrooper
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Leftism: ideas so good that they have to be mandatory, universal, and involuntarily implemented.
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Inisfallen
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Hey, I get it. You’re cool with the tens of thousands of gun deaths each year in this country. Small price to pay for your “freedom” (although I suspect you’d be singing a different tune if you or someone you loved had to pay that price).
Some of us aren’t.
Some of us aren’t.
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Roseeurekacross
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It was a post about the effects of our gun ban.
It’s relevant to what would happen if. XYZ
Are you saying Australians murdered 250 million people, What are you saying?
God bless you
It’s relevant to what would happen if. XYZ
Are you saying Australians murdered 250 million people, What are you saying?
God bless you
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Roseeurekacross
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No gun massacre, which is the topic.
Again MC are not gangs, they are criminal organisations. They don’t decide to arm up and shoot into festivals either, randomly killing. Neither do the mafia. Or the triads.
It is not a new buy back. It’s not a buy back. The government is not buying guns. It’s voluntary handing in guns.
It’s not new, it’s been going for almost 4 months now. Over 51 thousand guns have been relinquished.
Again MC are not gangs, they are criminal organisations. They don’t decide to arm up and shoot into festivals either, randomly killing. Neither do the mafia. Or the triads.
It is not a new buy back. It’s not a buy back. The government is not buying guns. It’s voluntary handing in guns.
It’s not new, it’s been going for almost 4 months now. Over 51 thousand guns have been relinquished.
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upant
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chicago proves people that want guns will have them even if they purchase them illegally. drugs were banned in all states at one time but readily available. a law will not stop the trafficking of guns. it will only take them from the law abiding.
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upant
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agreed it is an amnesty not a buy-back.
your own country calls them bikie gangs. who am i to call them something else. the criminal intent is the same.
your papers report drive-by shootings as well as random attacks. the government admits to an increasing gun availability and violence. obviously one reason for the amnesty.
claims are made that there are now more guns in australia then before the original gun buyback but no one knows for sure exactly how many guns are in the country.
there hasn’t been a mass killing only because of the culture and not the availability of guns. but the culture appears to be changing.
Gun city: Young, dumb and armed
An investigation into the new breed of criminals - and illicit firearms - behind Melbourne's recent wave of violence.
www.smh.com.au
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it is only tens of thousands if you count suicide. suicide is tragic no matter what device is used. there are other countries with higher suicide rates but lower gun rates than the usa. unfortunately if someone wants to take their own life a tool is available.
this still leaves too many non-suicide deaths but the numbers don’t need to be skewed.
what is being done to stop the weekly occurrence of gun deaths in the big cities? why does gun control only gain traction when a mass shooting occurs. in 28 days 58 people are killed in chiraq (chicago). where are the gun control advocates in the big cities? why is it ok for the downtrodden to die? hypocrites, all of them.
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Cathoholic
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You do understand upant that US gun violence statistics include gun usage from police against perpetrators right?
Do you want to disarm our police too? Why or why not.
If guns “leak” over the borders (for example the Obama administration seemed to purposefully leak firearms into Mexico), and they do, then are you proposing International controls too?
What about countries who refuse to be on board with the “upant gun ban program”? Then what?
Should we declare war on those countries, kill their soldiers so we can get on board with the up and program?
Or should we allow them their freedoms?
Do you want to disarm our police too? Why or why not.
If guns “leak” over the borders (for example the Obama administration seemed to purposefully leak firearms into Mexico), and they do, then are you proposing International controls too?
What about countries who refuse to be on board with the “upant gun ban program”? Then what?
Should we declare war on those countries, kill their soldiers so we can get on board with the up and program?
Or should we allow them their freedoms?
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So, the questions remain, why go to Indiana to buy guns and take them back to Chicago to commit crimes? Why doesnt Indiana have a much higher crime with its “lax” gun laws than Chicago with its strict gun laws? What’s so special about the south side of Chicago? In short, why spend the gas going back to Chicago? Just be a criminal in Indiana.
Look, Chicago can blame Indiana all it wants, but the crime problem is in Chicago
Look, Chicago can blame Indiana all it wants, but the crime problem is in Chicago
This is a consistent strategy of gun ban proponents. They include suicides and police actions in the line of duty as part of the "gun violence ". Gun murders have actually declined even though there are more guns in private hands. Most gun murders are with handguns, and a significant percentage of those happen in four or five large cities.
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Roseeurekacross
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Criminal organisation my government has seen fit to write special laws about.
But let’s discuss that quote
What do you think a culture is that leads to mass murder? Describe that culture.
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pnewton
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That same description can be applied to most of the founding fathers. As someone pointed out, there are also differences. However, when we say that the right to bear arms is in part to protect society from overbearing tyranny, or whatever, we have to think not just about the Southern white guy who is president of the NRA, but the disgruntle black youth who may see our government much the same way that Americans once viewed the British.
Yes, we have recourse to democracy. But it that nullifies gun-toting by BLM, doesn’t the same argument nullify both positions?
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upant
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where did i say i was for gun buybacks?
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upant
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it is the black market. guns bring a higher price in the gang controlled areas of chiraq. the black market is the reason gun control will not work the way they want it to.
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jcrichton
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Yep!.. we are now a tobacco free society; everyone’s saved by the ‘Attorney General’ notice posted on cigarette packs!
Maran atha!
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Maran atha!
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jcrichton
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I fully concur!
Target the manufacturing and distribution–makers and vendors are profiting regardless who gets killed and where the killing is being done!
Again, commonsense is quite clear: 'how many guns/machineguns does it take to put bambi on the table.
Maran atha!
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jcrichton
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…unless they are Papist, 'cause you know they are always ready to take over the world.
Maran atha!
Angel
Maran atha!
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pnewton
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First, we are not a tobacco free society. Second, it seems like you do not agree with this, which would make you the first pro-lung cancer person I heard of.
For my part, I see a huge benefit in truth in labeling. Only those who profit be deception need fear it. But to do anything with guns, we need to be able to research the issue, not close our eyes.
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jcrichton
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…ehem, their loved ones would not die because they carry guns so their spider senses and their cat-like reflexes along with their guns expertise would make sure that they survive 1000% of any given confrontation… criminals and losers be ware!
Maran atha!
Angel
Maran atha!
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jcrichton
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…'cause Indiana has guns under every pillow?
Maran atha!
Angel
Maran atha!
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