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WesleyF
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What do you think?
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elvisman
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No.
**It can’t be practical if it’s not taught in Scripture. **
This is a real problem for Protestants because it’s a self-refuting belief.
Since many Protestants reject Catholic beliefs because they are not explicity taught in Scripture (i.e., Marian dogmas) - I will hold them to their own criteria:
I challenge ANYBODY to come up with the Scriptures that explicitly teach Sola Scriptura.
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kooldood
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Exactly. Sola Scriptura is a contradictory doctorine. It makes no sense.
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crazzeto
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Nope, not at all practical. In fact it doesnt’ even begin to make sense once you think about the issue for just a little bit.
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Friar_David_O.Carm
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Sola Scriptura can not be practical becuase no where in Scripture does it say what books make up the Holy Scripture.
If it does not define what books make it up then how can it be practical?
If it does not define what books make it up then how can it be practical?
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LutheranDK
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Practical?
Shouldn’t the discussion be whether or not it’s true?
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pete_29
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It also requires individual interpretation of scripture which is why we have so many different Christian denominations.
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Gerry_Hunter
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Well, hard to say it “requires” it, but it sure leads to it. Scripture only, without an authoritative interpreter - what the “only” really leads to - can mean pretty well anything. Who is to say? So in that sense, it is not “practical.” So it’s good that it’s not true, because we would be in the very awkward situation of having something that would be true and unworkable at the same time were it otherwise.
Blessings,
Gerry
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WesleyF
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My question is directed specifically towards those Protestants who may think it is true, but might not be sure whether it could work in practice. For eg. two protestants believe sola scriptura is true. Both are well versed in scripture. One protestant uses the Bible to argue that baptism is necessary for salvation. The other uses the Bible to argue that it isn’t. So does it work in practice???
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WesleyF
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Hey, there are a lot of things which are not taught in Scripture, but does that mean that they are not practical?
I don’t want this thread to be a discussion about whether sola scriptura is true, but I want to discuss whether it can be applied in practice. See my above post.
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Wesley7
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Tradition.
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Friar_David_O.Carm
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Except that Sola Scriptura teaches that if it is not taught in the Scriptures then it is not True.
So if it is not true then it can not be practical.
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Wesley7
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Like the Angelic Heirarchy for example.
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Friar_David_O.Carm
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Well yes. If something is to be the basis of the Faith and the rule is that it contains everything of the Faith yet it does not contain a justification for itself or a listing of what it actually is (a list of the Books that make up Scripture) then it is illogical.ByzCath:
So do you mean that this is by common sense illogical?
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elvisman
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ANYTHING that is self-refuting cannot be prectical.
Name one instance where this is the case.
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shawn38
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Yes with prayer and the Holy Spirit.
2 Tim 3:16 All scripture is inspired of God - The Spirit of God not only once inspired those who wrote it, but continually inspires, supernaturally assists, those that read it with earnest prayer. Hence it is so profitable for doctrine, for instruction of the ignorant, for the reproof or conviction of them that are in error or sin, for the correction or amendment of whatever is amiss, and for instructing or training up the children of God in all righteousness
John 5:38-39 Ye have not his word - All who believe have the word of the Father (the same with the word of the Son) abiding in them, that is, deeply ingrafted in their hearts. Search the Scriptures - A plain command to all men. In them ye are assured ye have eternal life - Ye know they show you the way to eternal life. And these very Scriptures testify of me. Yet ye will not come unto me - As they direct you
Rom 15:4 For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.
2 Tim 3:16 All scripture is inspired of God - The Spirit of God not only once inspired those who wrote it, but continually inspires, supernaturally assists, those that read it with earnest prayer. Hence it is so profitable for doctrine, for instruction of the ignorant, for the reproof or conviction of them that are in error or sin, for the correction or amendment of whatever is amiss, and for instructing or training up the children of God in all righteousness
John 5:38-39 Ye have not his word - All who believe have the word of the Father (the same with the word of the Son) abiding in them, that is, deeply ingrafted in their hearts. Search the Scriptures - A plain command to all men. In them ye are assured ye have eternal life - Ye know they show you the way to eternal life. And these very Scriptures testify of me. Yet ye will not come unto me - As they direct you
Rom 15:4 For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.
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crazzeto
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Where do you get this? I can tell you it’s not an Apostolic idea, and it’s not in my bible (which is complete). So I’m really curious where this idea that the Holy Spirit is guiding everyone in to all truth comes from. This is intrisiclly disproved, there are thousands of different belief systems in existance world wide, all based soly on the bible and guided by the Holy Spirit. How does that make sense?
Most certainly the bible is profitable for instruction, but where does it say it’s the only source of information about God profitable for instruction? And where in the bible does it say it’s self interpeting?
So you’re trying to apply this to sola scriptura? I have a problem with this, Jesus didn’t leave a bible behind. The first book in the bible wasn’t written until at a minimum for 10 years after christ’s death.
You know, the same Paul who wrote that also wrote 2nd Thessalonians 2 14
drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=60&ch=2&l=14&f=s#x
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shawn38
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2:14 To which - Faith and holiness. He hath called you by our gospel - That which we preached, accompanied with the power of his Spirit. Hold - Without adding to, or diminishing from, the traditions which ye have been taught - The truths which I have delivered to you. Whether by word or by our epistle - He preached before he wrote. And he had written concerning this in his former epistle.
What traditions are not included in the epistles that Paul preached that are necessary for salvation? It’s that he preached them first, then wrote them shortly after.
While in Thessalonica, Paul, Silvanus and Timothy transmitted a body of oral teaching to the Thessalonians, to which they later appeal in their two letters. 2 Thessalonians is usually dated to shortly after the composition of 1 Thessalonians, c. 51-52.
1 Thes 3:11 Night and day we pray most earnestly that we may see you again and supply what is lacking in your faith. Paul first came to Thessalonica in 50-51 AD during his second missionary journey. Paul made a another visit to Thessalonica in 56 AD.
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