Do you think the Society of Pope Pius X will return to full communion with Rome?

[Dragonslayer]

In answer to the OP’s Question, I just don’t know if the SSPX will return into full communion.

There are some positive signs. For example, the Vatican allowed a nun to join an SSPX convent. But there are negative ones as well. The SSPX’s own American website says that there are “latent problems” in the documents of Vatican II and that “Catholics cannot in conscience attend the Novus Ordo Missae.” Obviously, the SSPX will need to renounce these beliefs if they are to return into full communion with the Pope. I think it should be noted that even if the SSPX returned into full communion, some SSPX chapels may break away from the organization in protest.

All in all, I (as we all I’m sure) hope that the SSPX returns into full communion.

Agree, I believe it is highly doubtful the SSPX will return to full communion.

 

[Dragonslayer]

In answer to the OP’s Question, I just don’t know if the SSPX will return into full communion.

There are some positive signs. For example, the Vatican allowed a nun to join an SSPX convent. But there are negative ones as well. The SSPX’s own American website says that there are “latent problems” in the documents of Vatican II and that “Catholics cannot in conscience attend the Novus Ordo Missae.” Obviously, the SSPX will need to renounce these beliefs if they are to return into full communion with the Pope. I think it should be noted that even if the SSPX returned into full communion, some SSPX chapels may break away from the organization in protest.

All in all, I (as we all I’m sure) hope that the SSPX returns into full communion.

Agree. I believe it is highly doubtful the SSPX will return to full communion.

This is still there; “If the Novus Ordo Missae is not truly Catholic, then it cannot oblige for one’s Sunday obligation. Many Catholics who do assist at it are unaware of its all pervasive degree of serious innovation and are exempt from guilt. However, any Catholic who is aware of its harm, does not have the right to participate.”

And this only took one click of the mouse to find.

And this is one of the major stumbling blocks.

 

[ProVobis]

And this is one of the major stumbling blocks.

But again, it does not make sense. The Latin EP1, except for the Mysterium Fidei, is almost identical to the Canon of the EF. If the claim is that the Latin EP1 is invalid so then must be the EF, which of course we know they don’t think is the case. The claim therefore is unfounded and one that I would ignore. Removal of Bishop W comments, OTOH, are most noteworthy IMO.

 

[Dragonslayer]

But again, it does not make sense. The Latin EP1, except for the Mysterium Fidei, is almost identical to the Canon of the EF. If the claim is that the Latin EP1 is invalid so then must be the EF, which of course we know they don’t think is the case. The claim therefore is unfounded and one that I would ignore. Removal of Bishop W comments, OTOH, are most noteworthy IMO.

You may ignore it, but I’m sure the SSPX won’t. Just sayin.

 

[ProVobis]

You may ignore it, but I’m sure the SSPX won’t. Just sayin.

Then the issue isn’t one of true belief but designed to stir up trouble where there shouldn’t be any. In other words, pure politics. IMO.

 

[pnewton]

This is still there; “If the Novus Ordo Missae is not truly Catholic, then it cannot oblige for one’s Sunday obligation. Many Catholics who do assist at it are unaware of its all pervasive degree of serious innovation and are exempt from guilt. However, any Catholic who is aware of its harm, does not have the right to participate.”

I found this at their site and find it rather disturbing. This means going to Mass, as the Catholic Church understands it, is an objective mortal sin.

Sad. I hope they change this, but I do not think they will be allowed to minister until they cut this stuff out.

 

[bmccpy78]

This press release, particularly the last paragraph, sounds promising.

“As Bishop Alfonso de Galarreta recalled on the occasion of the recent priestly ordinations in Ecône [June 29; 2011], “We are Catholic, Apostolic, and Roman. If Rome is the head and the heart of the Catholic Church, we know that (…) the crisis will necessarily be resolved in Rome and by Rome. Consequently, the little good we will do in Rome is much greater than the great deal of good that we will do elsewhere.” With this deep conviction Bishop Fellay will go [to Rome] at the invitation of the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.”

dici.org/en/news/general-house-of-the-society-of-saint-pius-x-bishop-fellay-will-be-received-by-cardinal-levada-on-september-14-2011/

At least there is an attitude of hope and openness.