Do you think you are a Mass snob?

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hahaha…I wish I could be snobby about my parish, but unfortunately there are so many abuses (though not the worst) that there’s really nothing to brag about in regards to my parish…except that we have 24/7 Eucharistic Adoration, there’s a plus.
 
The world indeed is a filthy place. I don’t even want to leave after Mass. I dread it. It doesn’t even have to be a Mass. I can walk into a Catholic church, especially an old one, and feel at ease. It’s hard to explain.

And you mentioned piety. It makes me so angry when someone posts a passionate testimony to their love of traditional Catholicism, just to have someone who doesn’t understand it, attempt to tell them they are wrong.

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👍 But to be sure, the same holds true for the other side. I belong to one of the (GASP!) happy clappy churches. While I do generally prefer a more solomn Mass, I know that right now this is the best place for my family as a whole. And it is still my home. On Holy Thursday I had an opportunity to sit, quietly, with the Blessed Sacrament and it mattered not one iota that it was in a church that has been known to make the more conservative among us weep for the days of Vatican I. As long as proper reverence is observed, I’m not bothered by the more enthusiastic style of worship. It only really becomes a problem when folks are showing up for the entertainment value (always an issue when you have a dynamic priest).
 
Then it dawned on me one day…Jesus is there!!! 😃 If you walk into any other faith community’s place of worship, He isn’t there. You could walk into a garage for all it’s worth. But walk into a Catholic Church, and Jesus is there in the Tabernacle!!! And if you just be still and know that He is God - you will know it. 🙂

How incredibly blessed we are.
~Liza
That’s exactly why I am a Catholic !!! I swam the Tiber 2 years ago. I don’t know if I would say I am a “snob” but I do appreciate a reverently done mass and am blessed in my parish. I go to a NO mass there and a Tridentine mass done at our cathedral. Both are excellent. I’ve been to other parishs in the area and have to say that most are celebrated very reverently.

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It all depends on what you are complaining about. There are many things at my parish that I do not like and for just reasons. For example, my parish apparently didn’t get the memo ( or ignored the memo) that said that that you KNEEL after the Sanctus and up to the Great Amen. I am not be a mass snob for complaining about this.

At my parish, I am not a mass snob. Everyone else is a mass slob.
 
I guess some people might consider me to be a Mass “snob”, but really all I want is a Mass where the proper reverence is shown and there are no major abuses going on. I actually attend the parish that I_Believe mentioned where we have 3 TLM’s every week. I don’t normally attend the TLM as my DH prefers the NO, but all the Masses at our parish are very reverent and we both really appreciate that.

We’ve also attended the parish of which I_Believe is a member, along with several other parishes in our diocese, and I have to say that it is very sad that we have only found the two so far who are not committing some serious abuses. 😦 I really don’t think that avoiding disrespect to Our Lord can be considered “snobishness”.
 
I guess some people might consider me to be a Mass “snob”, but really all I want is a Mass where the proper reverence is shown and there are no major abuses going on. I actually attend the parish that I_Believe mentioned where we have 3 TLM’s every week. I don’t normally attend the TLM as my DH prefers the NO, but all the Masses at our parish are very reverent and we both really appreciate that.

We’ve also attended the parish of which I_Believe is a member, along with several other parishes in our diocese, and I have to say that it is very sad that we have only found the two so far who are not committing some serious abuses. 😦 I really don’t think that avoiding disrespect to Our Lord can be considered “snobishness”.
Hi neighbor 🙂 You are blessed to have found St M of T. 👍
 
I voted “other”.

I am extremely picky as to what I like in Mass. I am very patient though, and most people around me do not know how picky I am- I am very quiet about my views. I can only think of one situation where I will be a “Mass snob”- if those around me are being irreverent towards the Eucharist or the priest.

I would not consider myself a snob, even though I am *very *picky about what I like at Mass, and have very strong traditional-leaning positions in regards to things such as reception of communion. Most people around me do not share my views, and I don’t think it would change their views for me to discuss mine with them. I generally keep quiet about my views. However, I have **NO **patience, and have been known to admonish people who are talking during Mass or who are otherwise being irreverent towards the Eucharist.
 
I’m a “reverse-snob” – I wish my home parish church would do things the way they do at one of the churches across town, which is very traditional and strictly observes the rubrics. :o
 
I’m only a Mass snob because I’ve seen how visitors to our parish react. Plus I’ve been to several different parishes and I must say the one I’m at now (and have been for nearly a year) is the best, and the most traditional.
 
In a non-snobbish way I am very happy to be a member of my parish. My priest is very liturgically conservative and follows the rubrics. I’ve noticed over the years that the Mass he celebrates has become more traditional. A few years ago my pastor reduced the number of EMHCs from six to four and introduced Latin (we sing the Sanctus and Agnus Dei in Latin and sometimes the Kyrie in Greek).
 
I put sorta, becuase it is wierd to me when Mass is done differently that what im used to, but it isnt necisarily good or bad
 
I answered “other” because “yes” I like the Masses at our parish the best but “no” I don’t think that’s a good thing. While it is fine and even virtuous to look for the most nourishing place one can find, I think it is a spiritual fault to be unwilling to be open to whatever spiritual nourishment is being offered on a given day.

In my case, I let my wish I were home get in the way of being open to what I’ve been given when I’m away. Ingratitude is inconsistent with the meaning of Eucharist.

The great irony is that I didn’t like our church that much when I started going there, but I stayed because I’m in the parish and the church no fault so serious that it warranted going elsewhere. Now, I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.
 
I am going to pick “other”- I want to attend Mass at Assumption Grotto.
 
I’m as much as a Mass snob as I am a beer snob - if it’s not the best, then it’s not the best.

I demand the Sacred Liturgy be performed with reverence and following the rubrics.
 
I answered “other” because “yes” I like the Masses at our parish the best but “no” I don’t think that’s a good thing. While it is fine and even virtuous to look for the most nourishing place one can find, I think it is a spiritual fault to be unwilling to be open to whatever spiritual nourishment is being offered on a given day.
I would agree that when the difference between one Mass and another is simply “right or left,” (based on personal preferences, that is) it is foolish not to appreciate that which is different from what we are used to. However, when the difference is “right or wrong” (based on following the rubrics and reverence in the Mass), I can see nothing at all wrong with having a clear preference for the Mass that has no abuses, over one that has many. Likewise, it would be perverse, in a sense, not to feel the pangs that our Lord Himself and the Angels must feel when the sacred liturgy is abused. It would be a spiritual insensitivity on our parts to simply shrug our shoulders and say, “Well, if this is how they like to do it, that’s up to them.”

Since our Catechism points out the evil of indifferentism, or believing that one religion is as good as another, I cannot help but think that believing one Mass is as good as another, regardless of serious abuses in one, is also a form of indifferentism.

Please undersand, EasterJoy, I am not accusing you personally of this. I’m only trying to point out the differences between bad preference and good preference. As far as I can tell, wishing to worship in a reverent and abuse-free Mass is the good sort of preference, and we need not feel ashamed of it.
 
I’m as much as a Mass snob as I am a beer snob - if it’s not the best, then it’s not the best.

I demand the Sacred Liturgy be performed with reverence and following the rubrics.
Ah, a man after my own heart!👍 (minus the beer:p)
 
My wife and I love this thread! We are both early 40’s and spent our entire lives with the Novus Ordo Mass…and both are about fed up with how many priests and lay ministers (particularly music ministers) have turned the Mass more into a revival gathering replete with comedic homilies ala Jay Leno, hip-hop music, dancing in the pews, etc. We used to belong to a start-up parish in Virginia where Mass was held in a public school cafeteria that was waaaaay more reverent and traditional than even some Cathedrals we’ve been too. The parishoners of that start-up parish were other fed up Catholics from many different parishes. All it took was one Mass there and many were hooked! The most poignant things were saying the Sanctus and Agnes Dei (the original Latin prayers for Holy,Holy,Holy and Lamb of God) and some women wearing head veils! In a cafeteria!

But now we’ve moved to another state and we’re back to the Mass hijinx. We’ve changed parishes once already and are about to change again since a new pastor took over. He wants to turn the church proper into a movie theatre with a big screen behind the altar, projector and surround sound. Thankfully, we returned to our original parish in our new town and found it more reverent than when we used to attend there. They are now saying the Sanctus and Agnes Dei too! I pray ( alot!!!) that this parish continues to grow in the right direction and we won’t feel compelled to go searching anymore.

I’m not in favor of switching parishes. I honestly feel that a parish and it’s parishoners are long term and that priests come and go. So don’t give up just because of a rogue priest. However, I just can’t stand it anymore. So please forgive me for going back on my own philosophy!

As for being a Mass snob…I see it more as being a defender of tradition and the proper sacredness of the Mass. I think the snobs are more the people who want it to be more laid back and casual and who throw me dirty looks for actually bowing my upper body during the Profession of Faith (by the power of the Holy Spirit he was born of the Virgin Mary and became man). Even so, God bless them for at least being there!

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I would agree that when the difference between one Mass and another is simply “right or left,” (based on personal preferences, that is) it is foolish not to appreciate that which is different from what we are used to. However, when the difference is “right or wrong” (based on following the rubrics and reverence in the Mass), I can see nothing at all wrong with having a clear preference for the Mass that has no abuses, over one that has many. Likewise, it would be perverse, in a sense, not to feel the pangs that our Lord Himself and the Angels must feel when the sacred liturgy is abused. It would be a spiritual insensitivity on our parts to simply shrug our shoulders and say, “Well, if this is how they like to do it, that’s up to them.”

Since our Catechism points out the evil of indifferentism, or believing that one religion is as good as another, I cannot help but think that believing one Mass is as good as another, regardless of serious abuses in one, is also a form of indifferentism.

Please undersand, EasterJoy, I am not accusing you personally of this. I’m only trying to point out the differences between bad preference and good preference. As far as I can tell, wishing to worship in a reverent and abuse-free Mass is the good sort of preference, and we need not feel ashamed of it.
Exactly. I did not mean that one should not have a preference for a more reverent liturgy or a liturgy where the homily and music are done more conscientiously or more skillfully, let alone that one should not prefer a liturgy free of abuses. Of course not. One may as well say that because a polite guest will never mention flaws in the food served that we should not care whether there are worms in the greens or that we eat the meat even though it has obviously gone bad. I mean that where it is possible, you pass over flaws, and where not possible, you make your objections as humbly as possible. If you have a neighbor whose food is wretched or unhealthy, it is not uncharitable to avoid her dinner parties at all costs, but you would of course do so as kindly as humanly possible, right?

I also mean that there is an obligation to be as open to what can be gleaned from the homily as possible, even if it is an ill-prepared collection of platitudes salted with personal opinions not to be found in the catechism. If the homilist says something true about the Scriptures just proclaimed, latch onto that. We have a positive obligation to bring our best to our participation at every Mass we attend. We are not to roll our eyes when we don’t like how the truth is told when the homilist rambles or does not have the self-discipline to confine himself to one point. Of course that doesn’t mean that bad homilies are “OK”. Heaven forbid!

I mean that there is an obligation to be charitable rather than judgemental when one encounters a lack of exterior reverence or musical aptitude or good taste in others. You can choose to love the guy next to you who is singing off-key, because bless his heart he is singing, or you can choose to wallow in disappointment about how much better it is at home. You can say to yourself, “Oh, no, not the St. Louis Jesuits again” or “Ick, I hate Gregorian chant” or you can say, “Hey, it’s a psalm, praise God, I can sing that.” We have an obligation to “lift up our hearts” whereever we find ourselves, to try to be able to say that there is not a fellow Catholic willing to worship at a valid Mass who will not find having us in the pew next to them a positive help.

If Thanksgiving must be at Aunt Mabel’s this year, and not at Grandma’s, and it can’t be helped, you go, anyway. Maybe you pick at the food in case Aunt Mabel has inadvertently tried to give you a food-borne illness again, but you go. If a badly done but valid Mass is the only one you have, you go, you bring your best, and you give thanks to God. You try to be a pleasure and a edification to have there. A least you have a Mass to go to, for so many Catholics on this planet do not.

Of course, even those persecuted souls would choose the best liturgy going, given the choice. They would be sickened to think that those blessed with Mass wouldn’t give it all the reverence they can muster every time they go. Those who treasure the Mass want to see the Mass treasured, everywhere and every time. On that, I think we all agree.
 
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