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I was wondering ,do people believe in the word,s Our Lady said too the children of Fatima ,that if man dose,t change their way and stop offending God and stop sinning that,man will suffer much, like more war,s worst storms,than we ever seen,more hunger ,and the annihilation of country,s ,Do people listen to what the Pope said,either, who speak,s for all too here?,for the salvation of Mankind.
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As the Fatima events happened during World War I, it is certainly correct that much more awful wars were to come in the near future.
 
The_Apostolate said:
I was wondering ,do people believe in the word,s Our Lady said too the children of Fatima ,that if man dose,t change their way and stop offending God and stop sinning that,man will suffer much, like more war,s worst storms,than we ever seen,more hunger ,and the annihilation of country,s ,Do people listen to what the Pope said,either, who speak,s for all too here?,for the salvation of Mankind.
I like the opinion from all on this subject. Amen
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Look around, we can tell by the condition of the world that enough people have NOT listened to Our Lady of Fatima. All the Popes since Fatima have promoted the message of Fatima over and over again. Don’t you think it’s time we listen and did as She asked before it’s to late?? Start the New Year out by saying the Rosary every day as she asked, And amend our lives for God. A Blessed New Year for ALL. God Bless, Memaw
 
The_Apostolate said:
I was wondering ,do people believe in the word,s Our Lady said too the children of Fatima ,that if man dose,t change their way and stop offending God and stop sinning that,man will suffer much, like more war,s worst storms,than we ever seen,more hunger ,and the annihilation of country,s ,Do people listen to what the Pope said,either, who speak,s for all too here?,for the salvation of Mankind.
I like the opinion from all on this subject. Amen
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The Message of Fatima from the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, (2000).

Sister Lucia had already given an indication for interpreting the third part of the “secret” in a letter to the Holy Father, dated 12 May 1982:

“The third part of the secret refers to Our Lady’s words: ‘If not [Russia] will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated’ (13-VII-1917).

The third part of the secret is a symbolic revelation, referring to this part of the Message, conditioned by whether we accept or not what the Message itself asks of us: ‘If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, etc.’.

Since we did not heed this appeal of the Message, we see that it has been fulfilled, Russia has invaded the world with her errors. And if we have not yet seen the complete fulfilment of the final part of this prophecy, we are going towards it little by little with great strides. If we do not reject the path of sin, hatred, revenge, injustice, violations of the rights of the human person, immorality and violence, etc.

And let us not say that it is God who is punishing us in this way; on the contrary it is people themselves who are preparing their own punishment. In his kindness God warns us and calls us to the right path, while respecting the freedom he has given us; hence people are responsible”.(5)​

vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000626_message-fatima_en.html
 
I believe they believed it. I do not think they were lying. But I am skeptical of any private revelations, even those made to me.

As for what was supposedly revealed at Fatima, we can deduce that without any private revelation to anyone and yes, I’ve read all the secrets. I also don’t believe what is happening in Medjugorie. The Church has not even given its stamp of authenticity to that one.

Somewhere on its Website, the Vatican has an interpretation on the third secret in detail. Everything has been made public now.

I don’t think Russia is our enemy so much as the Middle East is our enemy. I think if Our Lady wants us to pray we would all be informed, the request would be given to all, not to three children, no matter how lovely, in secrets not to be immediately revealed. Makes no sense.
 
Why do things always have to be secrets? If there is something mankind should do I think it would be better to let mankind know.
 
Lily_Bernans said:
I believe they believed it. I do not think they were lying. But I am skeptical of any private revelations, even those made to me.

As for what was supposedly revealed at Fatima, we can deduce that without any private revelation to anyone and yes, I’ve read all the secrets. I also don’t believe what is happening in Medjugorie. The Church has not even given its stamp of authenticity to that one.

Somewhere on its Website, the Vatican has an interpretation on the third secret in detail. Everything has been made public now.

I don’t think Russia is our enemy so much as the Middle East is our enemy. I think if Our Lady wants us to pray we would all be informed, the request would be given to all, not to three children, no matter how lovely, in secrets not to be immediately revealed. Makes no sense.
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The link is in the previous post. Here again:
vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000626_message-fatima_en.html
 
Lily_Bernans said:
Why do things always have to be secrets? If there is something mankind should do I think it would be better to let mankind know.
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The 'secrets" are not really secrets as they were meant to be revealed at a later time. That was the name given them at the time. God’s ways are not our ways. God Bless, Memaw
 
Actually, God has been telling us to repent since the beginning. We have been warned over and over again. It’s all over the Bible. If Fatima is real, the message is from God through Mary. I tend to believe it is real because of the prophecies fulfilled, but I have my doubts about some of what has been claimed. It is private revelation after all. But the message of repentance and suffering the consequences of our behavior has been public revelation since the Fall.
 
Michael68 said:
Fatima was not a secret
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That depends on hew one defines “secret.” People knew the children were having visions, but what the Blessed Mother told them was, for the most part, kept “secret” for years. Makes no sense at all. At least not to me.
 
CB_Catholic said:
Actually, God has been telling us to repent since the beginning. We have been warned over and over again. It’s all over the Bible. If Fatima is real, the message is from God through Mary. I tend to believe it is real because of the prophecies fulfilled, but I have my doubts about some of what has been claimed. It is private revelation after all. But the message of repentance and suffering the consequences of our behavior has been public revelation since the Fall.
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You are right, but I don’t see why information revealed is supposed to be keep secret until a later time. And, that’s what I meant when I said we didn’t need a private revelation. We’ve been told to repent. We know the wages of sin is death.

I respect the three children. I believe they believed all they said. I just have some doubts as you do.
 
I’m also very sceptical of Fatima. Firstly, because the third “secret” was kept hidden for several decades before being “revealed”. That has to be suspicious however you look at it. Secondly, the content of the third “secret”. Its just too fanciful to take seriously. It sounds like some bad Holywood end of the world film. Just kids imaginations running away with them I suspect.
 
peter26 said:
I’m also very sceptical of Fatima. Firstly, because the third “secret” was kept hidden for several decades before being “revealed”. That has to be suspicious however you look at it. Secondly, the content of the third “secret”. Its just too fanciful to take seriously. It sounds like some bad Holywood end of the world film. Just kids imaginations running away with them I suspect.
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Dreams or apparitions are common modes of communication in scripture. Cardinal Ratzinger states that “the vision speaks of dangers and how we might be saved from them”. We can see that the action to take, from the vision is: ‘Penance, Penance, Penance!’.
 
Cardinal Ratzinger said
The purpose of the vision is not to show a film of an irrevocably fixed future. Its meaning is exactly the opposite: it is meant to mobilize the forces of change in the right direction. Therefore we must totally discount fatalistic explanations of the “secret”, such as, for example, the claim that the would-be assassin of 13 May 1981 was merely an instrument of the divine plan guided by Providence and could not therefore have acted freely, or other similar ideas in circulation. Rather, the vision speaks of dangers and how we might be saved from them.
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Its a fanciful vision and needed damage control. That was after all Cardinal Ratzinger’s job back then.

There is a long list of controversy surrounding the third secret and its veracity.
 
Memaw said:
Look around, we can tell by the condition of the world that enough people have NOT listened to Our Lady of Fatima. All the Popes since Fatima have promoted the message of Fatima over and over again. Don’t you think it’s time we listen and did as She asked before it’s to late?? Start the New Year out by saying the Rosary every day as she asked, And amend our lives for God. A Blessed New Year for ALL. God Bless, Memaw
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The world is in a dreadful state. Morality has almost collapsed, Christ is mocked and derided, and unspeakable horrors are systematically happening on an enormous scale. We have a barbaric group creating a state built on death, torture, rape, slavery and genocide, and they aim to wipe out Christianity (across the world) by killing Christians.

Yes, we should listen to Our Lady, and this should be preached from the pulpit. We should heed her advise, pray the Rosary each day and consecrate ourselves to her Immaculate Heart.
 
peter26 said:
I’m also very sceptical of Fatima. Firstly, because the third “secret” was kept hidden for several decades before being “revealed”. That has to be suspicious however you look at it. Secondly, the content of the third “secret”. Its just too fanciful to take seriously. It sounds like some bad Holywood end of the world film. Just kids imaginations running away with them I suspect.
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It was not up to man when to reveal the “third Secret,” but up to God. God’s ways are not our ways and as far as I’m concerned, the only thing suspicious is our inability to understand His ways. God Bless, Memaw
 
peter26 said:
I’m also very sceptical of Fatima. Firstly, because the third “secret” was kept hidden for several decades before being “revealed”. That has to be suspicious however you look at it. Secondly, the content of the third “secret”. Its just too fanciful to take seriously. It sounds like some bad Holywood end of the world film. Just kids imaginations running away with them I suspect.
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I agree with you. The poster who said God’s ways are not our ways is right, but I do thiunk if God wants us to do something, he’s clear about it. I think he knows most people are not going to puzzle out metaphorical language. I think the children saw something unusual, then their imaginations took over.
 
Brendan_64 said:
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The world is in a dreadful state. Morality has almost collapsed, Christ is mocked and derided, and unspeakable horrors are systematically happening on an enormous scale. We have a barbaric group creating a state built on death, torture, rape, slavery and genocide, and they aim to wipe out Christianity (across the world) by killing Christians.

Yes, we should listen to Our Lady, and this should be preached from the pulpit. We should heed her advise, pray the Rosary each day and consecrate ourselves to her Immaculate Heart.
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I agree with you about the state of the world and the necessity of prayer, but I don’t think it has to be the rosary.
 
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