Doctors And Dentists Still Flooding U.S. With Opioid Prescriptions

  • Thread starter Thread starter Victoria33
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
Could there be a link between physician addiction to opioids, a problem with increasing publicity, and opioid over-prescription? I’m not sure, but patients seem to bear more accountability and scrutiny than the providers themselves, unfortunately.
 
This Tylenol-Ibuprofen protocol developed by a professor at my dental school (Dr. Hargreaves) is useful for weekend emergencies, but it is not meant for long-term pain management.
Yep. For me it was short-term relief after a tooth extraction. Perfect for something like that, IMO.
 
Well, here’s one thing to consider.
Once upon a time, doctors were authority figures, and people trusted them.
But this led to the duel problems of Physician overreach and patients being under informed and dependent on drugs to make them “all better”.
Then, patient advocacy groups came a long and people became better informed and doctors had more accountability .
But now you have the problem of patients who don’t know quite as much as they think they do, and doctors who are now being trained to be people pleasers rather than authority figures.

It’s a pendulum shift.
 
I just looked it up and it said that doctor addiction problems are roughly equal to the general population. It did not have a breakdown of the type of drugs though.
 
Doctors, Dentists Still Flooding U.S. With Opioid Prescriptions : NPR

Doctors And Dentists Still Flooding U.S. With Opioid Prescriptions​

July 17, 2020

Despite widespread devastation caused by America’s opioid epidemic, an investigation by NPR found that doctors and other health care providers still prescribe highly addictive pain medications at rates widely considered unsafe.

Public data, including new government studies and reports in medical literature, shows enough prescriptions are being written each year for half of all Americans to have one.

Patients still receive more than twice the volume of opioids considered normal before the prescribing boom began in the late 1990s.
Yes well, unfortunately a thing called money is at stake.
 
Doctors might be well meaning, and they still prescribe too many opioids. That facts are right there.

I had a legitimate claim to long term opioid use about 10 years ago with a ruptured disc. My family doctor, bless him, shocked me one day. I finished the first 30 days of a mild vicodin prescription and he said “this is the last prescription for pain killers I’m giving you”. It forced me to find a solution. That solution was the deep end of the swimming pool, and it worked.

If he hadn’t cut me off I would have had surgery and possibly still be taking pain killers. That’s a good doctor.
 
Last edited:

Doctors And Dentists Still Flooding U.S. With Opioid Prescriptions​

July 17, 2020

Despite widespread devastation caused by America’s opioid epidemic, an investigation by NPR found that doctors and other health care providers still prescribe highly addictive pain medications at rates widely considered unsafe.

Public data, including new government studies and reports in medical literature, shows enough prescriptions are being written each year for half of all Americans to have one.

Patients still receive more than twice the volume of opioids considered normal before the prescribing boom began in the late 1990s.
This is a very inflammatory and nebulous headline!

Spearing as a retired M.D., I see physicians grossly reducing their opioid prescribing out of fear of the police state (State Medical Boards). I do not trust some “investigation by National Public Radio,” or their very nebulous accusations of wrongdoing by healthcare professionals.

Record keeping by medical boards can be quite skewed or wrongheaded. For example, an Emergency Room physician might write frequent, small amounts of pain meds. The Medical Board always has him / her documented as an Emergency Physician, by training, but, then that physician might change to practice in a Family Practice setting (this is very common). In the Family Practice setting the same physician writes fewer prescriptions, but as a larger supply, because he / she is now treating CHRONIC pain patients. The Medical Board can’t keep these variables straight, so they send written notice to the Emergency Physician that his / her prescriptive practices are statistically out-of line with other Emergency Physicians. This kind of confusion is very common…then NPR taps into bad statistics.

There has also been an unfortunate expansion of controlled substance prescribing authority to Physician Assistants and Nurse Practitioners. Thirty years ago opiate prescribing was strictly limited to Physicians and Dentists. Today, everybody gets to prescribe! Who steered this great responsibility in that direction? Too many cooks spoil the broth!

The pharmaceutical industry has developed (and pushed) more potent, addicting, and lethal chemicals onto the market in the last 30 years. Noteworthy among these are Oxycontin, Fentanyl, and MS-Contin. Oxycontin was developed and marketed for “cancer pain.” Purdue Pharmaceuticals, the manufacturer, was successful in getting the FDA to broaden the prescribing indications for Oxycontin to many other types of pain >>> more pills on the street.

Probably the biggest source of opioids are still illegal drugs smuggled into the US from China, Mexico, and other countries. The traffickers are more sophisticated, using aircraft, shipping containers, and even submarines to smuggle drugs.

Most opioid deaths are probably from improper use of the drug or using illegal opioids, like heroin. For example chewing a highly potent Fentanyl patch, or combining opioids with alcohol or benzodiazepines (eg Valium) can be deadly.
 
Last edited:
Now that I could get behind, even though I am not on board with the push to stop opiods.
How about we trust doctors to treat patients. Opioid pain meds are an important tool, making doctors afraid to prescribe, making those with serious pain feel like criminals, is nanny state.
That I am more on board with. Likewise, I have no problem with having to have a blood test to make sure I am not abusing drugs or addicted. I am old enough, having gone through the opiod age, to know what works when. I am fortunate that too much makes me nauseated.

But here is my story. In the 80’s, I broke my arm pretty bad in an equestrian accident. The doctor prescribed two weeks of hydrocodone. I guess it was still rather new and I did not get very good instructions. So I followed the label. No one told me about tapering off. I had to work my first day off them and never had such a miserable day. It was only years later I learned you do not have to take if you are not hurting, and always taper off.

The last thing I want is to be told to take some Tylenol for serious pain.
 
The Little Lady,

Amen to that! People who have taken opiods for years for severe pain and have followed all the rules, have suddenly been cut of of their meds is a disgrace. Because some bad apples have abused the drugs to put it mildly senior citizens and others have to now suffer with more pain.
7-17=20.
 
I wonder if the elderly are more concerned about the anti-opoid movement those who are younger. The closer you get to chronic pain ailments, the more you start to worry about such things. My grandmother used Oxycontin the last few years of her life. She went from being almost unable to more her fingers to an active life. The year she died, at 96, she still mowed her grass.
 
I wonder if the elderly are more concerned about the anti-opoid movement those who are younger. The closer you get to chronic pain ailments, the more you start to worry about such things. My grandmother used Oxycontin the last few years of her life. She went from being almost unable to more her fingers to an active life. The year she died, at 96, she still mowed her grass.
I think that the elderly are more likely to follow a doctor’s orders to the letter and use the meds to manage physical pain, than younger people are. I think a lot of younger people use meds like opoids in an attempt to manage their psychological pain and despair.

And I also think that many people unintentionally become addicted to meds, and for this reason, better monitoring by doctors and their staff is needed. Nowadays, it’s almost impossible to get a timely appointment with a doctor, especially during this pandemic, and just sitting down and talking with the M.D. or the P.A. or the APN will cost you (hopefully your insurance) several hundred dollars! That’s just wrong.

I (and apparently other members of my family on my dad’s side) am unable to tolerate opoids, as I get terribly sick to my stomach and throw up. Sadly, I’m also allergic to the NSAIDS and experience tongue and throat swelling–over the last ten years, I’ve been in the ED on an IV three times with these symptoms.

I have osteoarthritis in my left knee, and thankfully have a surgery date in September to finally (after around 15 years of pain and limited mobility) get it fixed. It will be interesting to see how I manage the post-surgical pain without opoids or NSAIDS–I’m wondering if they’ll give me medical marijuana! What I use now is Tylenol, but only about once a week or so, and ONLY if the pain gets bad enough that I can’t put any weight on the knee which means not being able to stand or walk, which means not being able to go to work.
 
Yep. For me it was short-term relief after a tooth extraction. Perfect for something like that, IMO.
It might be for some patients, but response to NSAIDs (which include ibuprofen) is individualized. For some people, ibuprofen works wonders. For me, it’s absolutely worthless.
 
I think that the elderly are more likely to follow a doctor’s orders to the letter and use the meds to manage physical pain, than younger people are
True. I have a much more prosaic reason to avoid using pain medication. It is hard to get much, and as one that lives with chronic pain, as most people do as they age. I want to save it for when I have to have it to manage worse pain. I would be happy (for now) if I could just get 12-20 pills a year, or could call in for 2-3 years a few times a year. Hah! Like that will ever happen again.

I sympathize with those most that have addiction issues. I know that doctors have to tread carefully with such patients.
 
Doctors And Dentists Still Flooding U.S. With Opioid Prescriptions

Fentanyl is comparatively 100-150 times more potent than morphine. Hydrocodone has about 2/3 the potency of morphine, and Oxycodone has 1.5 - 2 times the potency of morphine. So, Fentanyl is the most dangerous of the opiate drugs, which kill by causing respiratory depression.

China is the major world player in exporting Fentanyl. They also supply the drug cartels with the chemical precursors to manufacture Fentanyl, which is then smuggled into the USA.

It is simply absurd to continue to pin opioid addiction and deaths on American licensed healthcare professionals, when the world is awash in illegal opioids from abroad, which find their way to American streets.

Does NPR receive Chinese funding?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top