Documentary defends Electoral College from escalating popular-vote movement

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When California gives 55 electoral votes to democrats every national election, you want to argue that it’s biased in favor of the Republican candidate?

Hardly.

Democrats start every national election with a 1/5-1/4 lead on the Republican candidate. That is hardly an advantage. Republicans have to play underdog in every national election.
 
Wyoming, pop. 600k, gets 3 votes.

California, pop 39m, gets 53 votes. If votes were apportioned according using Wyoming’s pop/vote figure, California would have 195 votes.

Now explain to me how the election is biased against Republicans? Why would Wyoming support such skewed staff?
 
Each state should count for the same electoral votes. That or get rid of the electoral college and turn it into a total democracy where one individual vote counts for the election result. The bulk of the liberals crowd the major cities of California and thus control the state, even though the majority of the state would likely vote red. This is how Illinois is. Chicago and Springfield keep Illinois blue every election, despite every other county in the state voting red.
 
SlavaIsusuChristu said:
Each state should count for the same electoral votes. That or get rid of the electoral college and turn it into a total democracy where one individual vote counts for the election result.
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The current system has worked well over the history of our nation. The ignorance displayed by those who do not understand the system is no reason to do away with it.
 
Both political parties at least tried representing their constituents then. Nowadays both parties have become extremists who regularly do not have their constituents best interests at heart. America has changed from what it used to be and it is heading in a very horrible direction (possibly and probably to its own destruction). If the status quo is not changing this downward spiral then something must change. I’m not saying this is the solution, but it’s an idea.
 
MikeInVA said:
The ignorance displayed by those who do not understand the system is no reason to do away with it.
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Those who followed the 2000 SCOTUS Gore-Bush decision sure understand the system better.
 
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They should format based on counties, not population. Maybe the people in chicago like liberal politics. Let them enforce that in their county. But for all the “cornstalk” counties that vote red, have traditional family values, and want nothing to do with lgbtqkjsdfskjdnfks then their vote should be equally represented and not just an unimportant drop in the bucket in the face of chicago/springfield politics.
 
That’s a fair point. There are exceptions to the rule, but the general rule has held consistently for years now.
 
That’s the problem. The bulk of the population tends to live in the bigger cities. And these bigger cities almost always tend to be on the far left spectrum of the political realm. So when elections come around the entire state is subjected to a handful of counties that happen to have the highest populations. Each county should be able to stand alone and decide for its immediate residents on political issues. If extremely liberal people in Chicago and Springfield want their state taxes to cover abortions? They can choose that. But for the Christians living in the small farming towns throughout the state that find that (rightfully) abhorrent, their county should be able to exempt themselves from that. Ask any conservative who lives in Illinois, California, New York, etc. We have been without a voice and have been powerless for decades. Our voices are not heard and our votes are meaningless. The fact that every national election is a guarantee for California to give 55 electoral points to the democratic candidate is proof of this. These things should not be based on population and should be localized more to adequately represent the various demographics spread throughout the state. The small farming county at the southern tip of the state with an overwhelming conservative look should give the same “points” that cook county (all of Chicago) gives. They should have just as much right to determine the future of their state and country as well, and not just be white noise at every election.
 
FWIW, the 2016 map,

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Yet, Clinton won by 3 million votes.

It’s all geography. Not democracy.
 
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That’s my point. Their voices should be equal. Where you live should count for your county, and then tally up a state based on each county. Another example is California. If you take away Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco and Sacramento, California would be a republican state. Yet these four cities ensure that California remains a democrat hell hole for decade after decade.
 
Reminds me of a project in worked on a decade ago. On a geographical map a certain wireless service appeared sparse across the USA. But when a coverage map was juxtaposed to a population density map, it was clear that service was where the people are.

Since our population distribution is non-union, a geographical map made the information less intuitive.
 
It seems to follow the Senate, where 70 Senators represent only 30% of the population.

No wonder they ignore national polls.
 
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Yes I am. This will better represent the population of the state as a whole. If the majority of the counties in a state vote Republican, for example, but the major cities/population centers of said state vote Democrat, making the state vote Democrat year after year, decade after decade, than this is a travesty. It simply means that the votes of those living in smaller towns simply don’t matter. All that really matters are the bigger cities. They are the power players. That’s not equality. That’s not fair representation. Illinois has talked about Cook County (Chicago) becoming it’s own State numerous times, but it never gets approved. The ones mostly in favor are the farming counties whom are at the mercy of liberal chicago politics enacted out of springfield that simply does not represent their best interests.

The alternative I suggested would be that everyone register to vote with their social security number and then tally every individual American’s vote for a candidate. Ideally this would come with some kind of way said person could check on their vote to make sure it hasn’t been tampered with.
 
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I wonder what it is about city dwellers that terrify conservatives so much.
 
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MikeInVA:
The ignorance displayed by those who do not understand the system is no reason to do away with it.
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Those who followed the 2000 SCOTUS Gore-Bush decision sure understand the system better.
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If they understand the system in light of Bush v Gore, they know that what we saw in Florida would have been in every voting district in America. A close national plebiscite has the potential of never being resolved.
 
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