Does İslam really promote violence?

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To find out how Islam should be put into practice, you have to look to the actions of its role model for mankind i.e. Mohammed, which in turn allows you to live in accordance with Allahs will, in much the same way as any Christian, who looks to Jesus as his role model.

The ways and example of Mohammed proves he was a military leader, who led his followers into battles, “to proclaim Islam over all religion” as the Quran commands in 9.33. Mohammed used military strength to bring people to the Islamic faith, as the authentic ahadiths report,

Bukhari:

Volumn 004, Book 052, Hadith Number 065.​

Narated By Abu Musa : A man came to the Prophet and asked, “A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah’s Cause?” The Prophet said, “He who fights that Allah’s Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah’s Cause.”
Volumn 004, Book 052, Hadith Number 196.​

Narated By Abu Huraira : Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, ‘None has
the right to be worshipped but Allah,’ and whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,’ his life and
property will be saved by me except for Islamic law, and his accounts will be with Allah, (either to punish him or to
forgive him.)"

Sahih Muslim 33—The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer, and pay Zakat and if they do it, their blood and property are guaranteed protection on my behalf except when justified by law, and their affairs rest with Allah.

Tabari 9: 82
The Messenger sent Khalid with an army of 400 to Harith [a South Arabian tribe] and ordered him to invite them to Islam for three days before he fought them. If they were to respond and submit, he was to teach them the Book of Allah, the Sunnah of His Prophet, and the requirements of Islam. If they should decline, then he was to fight them.”

Quran 9.29
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Does Islam promote violence?”

According to Islamic sources the answer is, yes it does.

You posted random verses out of context.

Can you post each one again with the few verses before and after it and then discuss them in context please.

 

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Assertion: There is no central authority in Islam that even attempts to convincingly speak for what Islam as a whole says.

Who is the central authority for Judaism that speaks for Judaism as a whole?

Catholicism is only one branch of Christianity. The Catholic Popes through history have also been political figures who waged centuries of war between other Christians, then Jews and finally Muslims. The history of Catholic popes is often horrifying and these are the ones that claim to represent Catholics. Just take the Spanish Inquisition as an example.

 

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I would suggest that if ISIS are acting contrary to the Qur’an in killing the innocents and forcing others to convert, then they are, in fact, infidels who are pretending to be Muslims. What are true Muslims DOING to bring to an end the actions of these kuffar? If they do nothing to stop these actions, then they will be identified with those who are carrying out these actions.

I would guess that most of the worlds Muslims are condemning ISIS. There is nothing even remotely Islamic about them.
We need to understand what ISIS actually are. Many believe they are a creation of the Zionist controlled USA. They have been created to cause chaos in the countries surrounding Israel to take the focus off it and weak them militarily. For sure from what we are seeing it seems that is true. They have fractured Libya, Tunisia, Syria, Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon and Jordan militarily. This is a fact. Egypt managed to stop them when they ousted the US proxy the Muslim Brotherhood so Egypt is relatively safe at the moment from them. Iran is the other thorn in the Zionist US side.

The most convincing evidence on top of the above is the fact that the USA created Al Qaeda and this is an absolute fact confirmed by Hilary Clinton herself. The second is that Al Baghdadi the leader of Da’aish (ISIS) was in a secret meeting with John Mc Cain caught on camera in Syria before ISIS spread across from Alleppo to Mosul using US ordinance and military hardware. This is another fact. So the real question is who is behind Da’aish and who is supplying it and who has funded it when it was called ‘The Syrian Emergency Task Force’ ? when you realise who that is you then know who ISIS really are.

The West

 

[dronald]

You posted random verses out of context.

Can you post each one again with the few verses before and after it and then discuss them in context please.

9:
28O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Haram after this, their [final] year. And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise.

29Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

30The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, “The Messiah is the son of Allah .” That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?

31They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah , and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.

32They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah refuses except to perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it.​

There’s context for you. Fight us and subjugate us until we pay a tax because we’re deluded.

 

[otterman]

You posted random verses out of context.

Can you post each one again with the few verses before and after it and then discuss them in context please.

The quotes are in context to the concept of how jihad should be waged against unbelievers in Islam, they show exactly how Islam should be put into practice, just as its prophet and holy texts command.

If you disagree, it is up to you to give evidence to the contrary.

 

[otterman]

I would guess that most of the worlds Muslims are condemning ISIS. There is nothing even remotely Islamic about them.
We need to understand what ISIS actually are. Many believe they are a creation of the Zionist controlled USA. They have been created to cause chaos in the countries surrounding Israel to take the focus off it and weak them militarily. For sure from what we are seeing it seems that is true. They have fractured Libya, Tunisia, Syria, Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon and Jordan militarily. This is a fact. Egypt managed to stop them when they ousted the US proxy the Muslim Brotherhood so Egypt is relatively safe at the moment from them. Iran is the other thorn in the Zionist US side.

The most convincing evidence on top of the above is the fact that the USA created Al Qaeda and this is an absolute fact confirmed by Hilary Clinton herself. The second is that Al Baghdadi the leader of Da’aish (ISIS) was in a secret meeting with John Mc Cain caught on camera in Syria before ISIS spread across from Alleppo to Mosul using US ordinance and military hardware. This is another fact. So the real question is who is behind Da’aish and who is supplying it and who has funded it when it was called ‘The Syrian Emergency Task Force’ ? when you realise who that is you then know who ISIS really are.

The West

Your post belies a complete lack of understanding of the Islamic faith and its objectives.

All Islamic terrorists quote from Islamic scriptures to justify their barbaric actions, they have flags which show their allegiance to their god Allah,in whose name they are fighting, they are following the words they see written before them in their “holy book” and are following the example of their "prophet "role model.

Their objectives are world domination under Shariah rule, this is to be achieved by “fighting those who do not believe in Allah” until they either submit, pay extortion money or face death, which is exactly what IS is saying to their victims.

 

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9:
28O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Haram after this, their [final] year. And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise.

29Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

30The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, “The Messiah is the son of Allah .” That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?

31They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah , and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.

32They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah refuses except to perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it.​

There’s context for you. Fight us and subjugate us until we pay a tax because we’re deluded.

Okay so I just want to confirm with you that your problem is with Jizyah? is that correct before I answer

 

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Your post belies a complete lack of understanding of the Islamic faith and its objectives.

All Islamic terrorists quote from Islamic scriptures to justify their barbaric actions, they have flags which show their allegiance to their god Allah,in whose name they are fighting, they are following the words they see written before them in their “holy book” and are following the example of their "prophet "role model.

Their objectives are world domination under Shariah rule, this is to be achieved by “fighting those who do not believe in Allah” until they either submit, pay extortion money or face death, which is exactly what IS is saying to their victims.

I’m pretty sure that the Christians who were burning Joan of Arc at the stake were quoting Christian scripture too. Doesn’t mean they were following Christianity though does it.