Does a Catholic women have a God given right to work (Have a Career)

[Monte_RCMS]

If you are referring to the woman I think you are, I thought she wasn’t selected for the team.

She showed up for the try-outs but she was not able to actually kick a football.

It wasn’t about not being selected for the team.

She just couldn’t kick a football.

Football is about “dealing” with a football.

Results matter.

 

[Aviatrix]

She showed up for the try-outs but she was not able to actually kick a football.

It wasn’t about not being selected for the team.

She just couldn’t kick a football.

Football is about “dealing” with a football.

Results matter.

I understand what you are saying. But if she wasn’t selected for the team, then the team’s standards weren’t lowered for her. Maybe her quad was injured, maybe it was just a publicity stunt, I don’t know and don’t really care. I agree with you that lowering standards in occupations that could result in loss of human life is something to be guarded against, and I can see the temptation some folks might have to do so in order to get a token female.

 

[TimeEntrance]

She showed up for the try-outs but she was not able to actually kick a football.

It wasn’t about not being selected for the team.

She just couldn’t kick a football.

Football is about “dealing” with a football.

Results matter.

That was one woman in one incident. I think she was injured also. I would expect to see her or another woman kicking field goals in the future.

But I would not expect to see a full figured woman (not looking like a man from higher than normal testosterone levels) smashing some big NFL player in football or playing the wide receiver and running back positions. I would not expect to see a typical human man defeating a silver-back gorilla in hand-to-hand combat either.

There is less sexual dimorphism between human men and women (almost none at all between the two sexes prior to puberty) than there is between the two sexes of gorillas.

But human adults can act like little kids and refuse to accept life on life terms (not speaking of you Aviatrix). That’s why you have grown women getting attacked by chimpanzees. An adult man is not going to beat up an adult male chimpanzee either. Anatomically we are simply not built to defeat them with our bare hands. A simple act of humility can save a life time of suffering.

But given there is less sexual dimorphism between human men and women some would promote pitting women not against big men but against men of smaller size deemed more likely to be emasculated. This calls into question a number of gender issues. For one, sympathy for female domestic violence victims. Presumably, there fate was had through ignorance in physical education if the man was not much bigger than her.

But it also forgets something else. That even male chimpanzees are short in height relative to adult women. What I’m saying here is that someone like Mike Tyson (one of the fastest and hard hitting heavy weights of all time) was short for a heavy weight boxer.

So, in terms of having a woman’s mouth wired shut, bleeding on the brain, and possible blindness from placing her in a ring with a professional male boxer in which both are fighting for money and ranking, under the presumption “He’s not so big,” could prove an inaccurate prediction as to how destructive this presumably, potentially emasculated man’s hands can be.

Then again, I’m sure there are some men that can be found to be beaten in a professional boxing match against a professional female boxer. But this still calls into question gender issues.

Questions like:

If you (male) can beat up a girl should you?

If you (female) can beat up a boy should you?

Whether for a career or not.

 

[Aviatrix]

Hi Time, I enjoyed your post.

I think outside of sports people generally shouldn’t be beating each other up, regardless of their gender. I have bested many men and women in competition and yet never been in a fight on the street. I have never struck someone with malice or anger.

I understand people’s discomfort with combat sports because of spousal abuse connotations. When people engage each other in combat in sports though, it is separate from abuse, street fights or what have you. Most newbies in my sport are reluctant to hit any opponent with sufficient authority, and I would guess even more so when hitting a woman. But then they get over it. Most people are capable of distinguishing competition between trained, certified and ready combatants from real life. In fact Mr. Aviatrix tried my sport for a while. We even fought against each other. I have asked him if it bothered him and he has told me that he didn’t have any issues with it. I know a few couples who compete, and none of them have abusive relationships.

And you are right, relative height on its own is not predictive of physical resilience or ability. I doubt any woman who was Tyson’s height would have muscle mass similar to him without the use of steroids or something.

 

[TimeEntrance]

Hi Time, I enjoyed your post.

I think outside of sports people generally shouldn’t be beating each other up, regardless of their gender.

LOL I suppose you’re right.

(Even though it happens nonetheless.)

I have bested many men and women in competition and yet never been in a fight on the street. I have never struck someone with malice or anger.

I understand people’s discomfort with combat sports because of spousal abuse connotations. When people engage each other in combat in sports though, it is separate from abuse, street fights or what have you. Most newbies in my sport are reluctant to hit any opponent with sufficient authority, and I would guess even more so when hitting a woman. But then they get over it. Most people are capable of distinguishing competition between trained, certified and ready combatants from real life. In fact Mr. Aviatrix tried my sport for a while. We even fought against each other. I have asked him if it bothered him and he has told me that he didn’t have any issues with it. I know a few couples who compete, and none of them have abusive relationships.

And you are right, relative height on its own is not predictive of physical resilience or ability. I doubt any woman who was Tyson’s height would have muscle mass similar to him without the use of steroids or something.

Okay! now I have got to ask you, what sport is this you do? My curiosity is sparked too much.

And the newbies you speak that reluctant to hit with force someone with “authority” are likely afraid of getting hit back hard or clobbered. It’s a psychological state–in boxing at least–where a person thinks that if they don’t hit hard their opponent will go easy on them. It’s actually a mental thing for humans and not a boxing thing per se.

I remember my first boxing coach getting really enraged at me one day when I was in the ring. He wanted to beat me. He was infuriated because I was not keeping my guards up or something. I can’t remember. But he was of the mind I was taking this too much as a game and not a lie and death (or paralysis) matter it was come time I get thrown in a real prize fight, with no headgear, for a $100 or so a round.

I latter came to see what he meant about fighters losing their teeth when I came across a number of low ranked pro fighters missing teeth. And that first coach of mine was quite proud of the fact that he kept all his teeth and as he put it, wasn’t “…walking around on” his “tippy toes.”

He was a talker though. He could get you feeling like a war was on the horizon for you, two men entering, and only one walking out. He could getting into boxing battles talks like some Vietnam vets I’ve met at the VA can get into talks about landing in a hot LZ with troops on the ground already hooking and jabbing, hand-to-hand, in battle.

Basically, he could talk with an intensity.

 

[Aviatrix]

And the newbies you speak that reluctant to hit with force someone with “authority” are likely afraid of getting hit back hard or clobbered. It’s a psychological state–in boxing at least–where a person thinks that if they don’t hit hard their opponent will go easy on them. It’s actually a mental thing for humans and not a boxing thing per se…

I definitely agree. We don’t want to hurt others, and we don’t want to be hurt. It takes some time to develop confidence and a sense of where the limits are. I was the same way.
Sounds like you had a great coach!

I’m reluctant to reveal my sport because it would make it very easy to identify me