Does any know where I can find or get a list of the infallible dogmas but in Latin?

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Latin is the most pure language of the Church.
Although a number of documents have been written first in a number of other languages.(Such as the letter Pius Xl wrote to the Church in Germany about Nazism), for the most part when in Latin there is no issue of the problems of translation. It is what it is meant to say. English is a very hard language to translate from Latin honestly, since I learned Latin I always read documents of the Church in Latin because honestly a lot of them in English can be difficult to really grasp what it is saying.

A lot of traditionalists misinterpret documents from the Second Vatican Council because the translation really isn’t saying what it means too or can be confusing.
 
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Prodigal1984 said:
Latin is the most pure language of the Church.
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Could you please explain what is a ‘pure’ language.

Translation from one language to another always has its problems. But, I do not see how one language is ‘purer’ than another for the purposes of writing the original of a document.
 
Sure.
Latin is a dead language in regards to society speaking it. The language is the same now as it was 500 years ago. All other languages change through time, which is why if you try to read something from 500 years ago in English, it is quite difficult. This is why Latin is a pure language, it will not have the same changes now which happen in spoken languages. This also did occur in Latin itself when Latin was the spoken language of society, such as the dialect of vulgar Latin.
So yes the language is pure because it does not face the change other languages do. What it says 500 years ago is exactly what it says now.
It’s the same in the Greek church; they use Koine Greek, which is a dead dialect but it is pure, and for that matter exactly the language the Apostles wrote in and spoke.( The Hellensists anyways)
 
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edjlopez23 said:
Does the English copy have the infallible dogmas in Latin or do I have to buy the Latin copy.
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Denzinger has the Latin and English together. Sometimes it’s Greek and Latin (like with the first Nicene creed).
 
Which book is it called? Is it called Sources of Catholic Dogma? I hope it contains the Latin Catholic Dogmas I’m looking for.
 
Prodigal1984 said:
Latin is the most pure language of the Church.
Although a number of documents have been written first in a number of other languages.(Such as the letter Pius Xl wrote to the Church in Germany about Nazism), for the most part when in Latin there is no issue of the problems of translation. It is what it is meant to say. English is a very hard language to translate from Latin honestly, since I learned Latin I always read documents of the Church in Latin because honestly a lot of them in English can be difficult to really grasp what it is saying.

A lot of traditionalists misinterpret documents from the Second Vatican Council because the translation really isn’t saying what it means too or can be confusing.
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But given that you are not a native Latin speaker there will always be translation going on. The only issue is that the English translation you are producing in your own head when you read the Latin doesn’t accord with the Elglish translations others put on paper when they read it.

Whose translation is correct? It’s not like there are native Latin speakers around to ask, and even experts in language will disagree at times.
 
See above in my comment I provided the link for it online.
 
Thanks! I may need the English copy too to navigate the material.
 
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Sure.
Latin is a dead language in regards to society speaking it. The language is the same now as it was 500 years ago. All other languages change through time, which is why if you try to read something from 500 years ago in English, it is quite difficult. This is why Latin is a pure language, it will not have the same changes now which happen in spoken languages. This also did occur in Latin itself when Latin was the spoken language of society, such as the dialect of vulgar Latin.
So yes the language is pure because it does not face the change other languages do. What it says 500 years ago is exactly what it says now.
It’s the same in the Greek church; they use Koine Greek, which is a dead dialect but it is pure, and for that matter exactly the language the Apostles wrote in and spoke.( The Hellensists anyways)
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I think calling it a pure language (and there is no such thing) is an attempt to credit it with attributes it does not possess. Latin is dead or unchanging, yes. Is it a pure language? No, and there is no such thing.
 
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In 1947 Latin was far more routinely taught as part of secondary or higher education than it is now. So Plus XIIs statement is hardly one that stands the test of time.
 
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