Does anybody else feel that tough times are truly ahead?

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People have been saying this for a long time, but its different now for some reason. The USA is changing. We are headed somewhere bad. I think God is telling us that we’re going to require a different kind of Pope for what lies ahead in the world.
In all honesty?

No more difficult that any other time in history.

We humans have this really bad bad tendency to be paranoid, even within our egos…

This time in human history isnt any more ,or less, evil, than all of human history.

We need to get over our ego driven persecution complex and living faithfully the Gospel.

We dont have it “worse” that say, the early Christians. If anything, it’s an insult to their sacrifices and persecutions, if we think we have it worse then they did. We dont (with exception of the Middle Eastern Christians of present day. We are not living what they are living.)
 
I’m also seeing a huge rise in the number of young people who are self-proclaimed agnostics and atheists. Not so much “militant atheists” who go around trying to bash and dismantle religion, but just not caring individuals who seem to say “So what if there is a God?”

Maybe it isn’t so much that people are not believing in God anymore; maybe it is more so that people’s trust in religion is dying, and the level of apathy that keeps getting applied when it comes to God and religion is getting stronger.

There is a difference between the average atheists today and the average atheists when Bertrand Russell debated Fr. Copleston.
Think of all of human history, and you will see that it’s not nearly as violent that other times in history.
 
Think of all of human history, and you will see that it’s not nearly as violent that other times in history.
I don’t think anyone can deny that there were tough times, violent times, and times of persecution before in history and no one can say which time period was worse or better but the way I look at the OP question is, are tough times coming now are tough times headed for us. And I think sometimes we feel that we as humans have worked hard and civilized ourselves and have solved so many of humanities problems so that those tough times won’t come again and every thing is just going to keep getting better because of what we have already accomplished and we humans have made the world better but that is humanism. That is not the gospel. Jesus told us there would be tribulation but not to fear because he has overcome the world. It is because of those very tribulations of the past that we know it can happen again. We are told in the epistles that a time will come when men will no longer listen to sound doctrine and that their hearts will grow cold and also that men will call good bad and bad good. Those are not good things. That is why we put our trust in Jesus. We can show to the world why we can have peace and joy amidst what is going on in the world, because we know Jesus. Acknowledging the problems of society is not a bad thing. It is a good thing, so we can help others and know how and when to witness our faith to others. Nobody knows what tomorrow holds but we can also look at what is going on and get an idea.
 
My uses of words are occasionally injudicious. This was not the case here.

That was not the question to which I was referring. 😉 Did I respond to the OP? No. I responded to MMM. His question – whether the world today is better or worse than before – is the question in which I am interested.
Really? Then forgive me:
ephesians4;10503707 said:
The thread asked a question
, it asked for people’s opinions and a number of us gave them. I found it interesting to read people’s opinions, to be honest, including mymamamary’s. 🙂
My claim is that the question is unanswerable; this is basically indisputable.

I’m sure you can understand from the whole quote the room for accidentally thinking you meant the question the thread asked was unanswerable.

Optical illusion, I guess. 😉
 
The world can and will get better, eventually. If I bold my words, my intention is not to shout but to make the words look fancier. If I shout I capitalize my words and put an exclamation point on the end. Humanity in its essence is good. GOD said it was good, which meant it was VERY good. What irks me is the sinfulness though. Grace perfects nature, but only if we let that Grace perfect us. If we don’t, we walk through the mud of life like animals. If we allow grace to perfect and build on our nature, we fly like the Angels.
Well, yeah, sinfulness is irksome, so I understand. But it will always be there til we meet Him face to face. Then there is meanwhile, as we strive to make the bad good, and the good better. And to Glorify The One who loves us no matter what.
 
“Does anybody else feel that tough times are truly ahead?”

Times of sacrifice and detachment, yes, according to Pope Francis:
” When we walk without the Cross, when we build without the Cross, and when we profess Christ without the Cross, we are not disciples of the Lord. We are worldly, we are bishops, priests, cardinals, Popes, but not disciples of the Lord.
Not to worry, if we
profess the one glory, Christ Crucified. In this way, the Church will go forward.
Will we have times more evil than any other age? No. What can be more evil than the rejection of paradise by our first parents?
What can be more evil than the crucifixion?
 
“Does anybody else feel that tough times are truly ahead?”

Times of sacrifice and detachment, yes, according to Pope Francis:

Not to worry, if we

Will we have times more evil than any other age? No. What can be more evil than the rejection of paradise by our first parents?
What can be more evil than the crucifixion?
well said. thank you
 
Its possible. Something sinister is underway, HOWEVER (This next line needs to be capitalized) OUR LORD JESUS IS IN CONTROL!! THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL PROTECT US. We are HIS BRIDE, Holy Church. JESUS will not let the gates of hell prevail against us. We are fighting a WON battle. This battle was won a long time ago, in fact, 2,000 years ago on a Hill called Calvary.

TO ARMS!!!

We have the MOST BLESSED SACRAMENT, GOD HIMSELF, what more do we need? HE will protect us, even in the midst of turmoil. Pray to Our Lady and entrust Yourself to Her. She will not fail You. Here is a movie that is worth the watch though…

gloria.tv/?media=278031
Agree 👍
 
Jesus told us there would be tribulation but not to fear because he has overcome the world. It is because of those very tribulations of the past that we know it can happen again. We are told in the epistles that a time will come when men will no longer listen to sound doctrine and that their hearts will grow cold and also that men will call good bad and bad good. Those are not good things. That is why we put our trust in Jesus. We can show to the world why we can have peace and joy amidst what is going on in the world, because we know Jesus. Acknowledging the problems of society is not a bad thing. It is a good thing, so we can help others and know how and when to witness our faith to others. Nobody knows what tomorrow holds but we can also look at what is going on and get an idea.
Dear Diana Catherine,

Cordial greetings and a very good day. Excellent post and thankyou for your (name removed by moderator)ut to the discussion.

If, dear sister, I understand St. Paul correctly then the “last days”, that is to say the Messianic era in which we now live, will get progressively worse and not better - “But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived” and, in a passage to which you alluded, “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables” (II Tim. 3: 13; 4: 3,4). Whilst it is perfectly true that opposition to the authentic Catholic faith will always be a charactersitic of the interadvent period and that men should not be surprised or dismayed by this, it does seem that Holy Mother Church will face terrible times as we move further towards the Second Advent. What certianly admits of no doubt is that our own age is not only witnessing a fearful increase in wickedness, but there is also widespread apostasy within the bosom of the Church itself, for multitudes of putative Catholics no longer believe the teachings of their Church and have embraced a sort of a la carte approach. Moreover, many in the West have adopted a hand in hand with the world type of religious practice that has little zeal as regards living up to the arduous demands of the faith, especially the call to personal sanctity and separation from the godless world.

False doctrines, dear sister, have always been with us and were being propagated in St. Paul’s own day and shortly after, nevertheless, as the Apostle looked further into the distant future he could forsee the dangers increasing with the unremitting flood of false doctrines, and with it the corresponding corruption of morals. Having said that, the faithful must not despair or become discourged, for the true remnant will remain firm and steadfast, its faith indestructible, for the activity of forces hostile to the cause of good will never utterly prevail against Holy Mother Church (cf. S. Matt. 16: 18). However, it would seem that the faithful remnant will probably be quite a small body prior to our Lord’s return, whenever that blessed event will be. In St. Luke’s Gospel our Lord says, “…Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?” (18: 8). Does not He speak here of the “faith once delivered unto the saints” (St. Jude 3), that deposit of truth contained in both Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition? Now whilst this faith may not always be entirely denied, neither will it be held or fully embraced, and yet without the great eternal verities of our most holy religion, there surely cannot be any strong faith generally that is worth its salt. On the contrary, there will be many who simply have a “form of godliness” but who deny the power thereof (cf. II Tim. 3: 5). These are worldly Catholics who are “lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God” (II Tim. 3: 4) and who have refused the Church’s call to holiness and separation from the world (CCC, paras 2013-2015). Alas, dear sister, I fear that today faith in the faith is growing weaker and weaker, due largely (though by no means exclusively) to worldly conformity and an a la carte approach to our most holy religion.

Truly, dear sister, our lot is cast in exceedingly troublous times, both within and without the bosom of Holy Mother Church, and Catholics will soon have to nail their colours to the mast and stand up and be counted. There is a lowered public opinion that so desperately needs raising and there are difficult social problems that need to be grappled with and the Church today needs holy men and women who will boldly rebuke vice and patiently suffer, if necessary, for the truths sake. The biggest challenge facing the Church today is calling the faithful to the pursuit of holiness and encouraging them against worldly conformity (Rom. 12: 2). My earnest prayer is that Pope Francis will give top priority to this in the coming days.

God bless.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
 
People have been saying this for a long time, but its different now for some reason. The USA is changing. We are headed somewhere bad. I think God is telling us that we’re going to require a different kind of Pope for what lies ahead in the world.
Why would God allow this wonderful new Pope to be selected if he thought the man was not fit for the job? Have faith! Things have always been bad. There has never been a place for Christ in this world. He reigns in our hearts alone.

During the first several centuries of its existence the Church endured and grew in a hostile pagan world. The men and women who built the Church were saints.

Why do we feel entitled to the easy path? Before we blame the Holy Father, let us instead look within ourselves and ask God to make us holy so we can be the salt and leaven and light which Jesus described in the Sermon on the Mount. Our work is curt out for us: we must be holy and faithful in a hostile and indifferent world.
 
Why would God allow this wonderful new Pope to be selected if he thought the man was not fit for the job? Have faith! Things have always been bad. there has never been a place for Christ in this world. he reigns in our hearts alone. During the first several centuries of its existence the Church endured and grew in a hostil pagan world. The men and women who built the Church were saints. Why do we feel entitled to the easy path? Before we blame the Holy Father, let us instead look within ourselves and ask God to make us holy so we can be the salt and leaven and light which Jesus described in the Sermon on the Mount.
I don’t know that its a question of the Pope not being up to the job. Quite the contrary if everything falls apart, the role of the Pope will be more critical and I have faith this Pope is quite suited to this. He is the very embodiment of love of neighbor, a fantastic witness and a shining beacon for the rest of us to follow.

But that said, biblically speaking the anti-christ will come. Things will get worse, society will fall away. This will not strictly be within the control of any Pope, but I think the selection can affect to what extent and how. As already stated, St. Paul was clear that people will look to false preachers to tickle their ears, once they have so fallen away it won’t matter what the pope says.
 
I read this recently from Father Joseph Espers about coming tough times.

"Pope John Paul II in 1980 stated:

“We all must be prepared to undergo great trials in the not too distant future; trials that will require us to give up even our lives, and a total gift of self to Christ and for Christ. Through your prayers and mine, it is possible to alleviate this tribulation, but it is no longer possible to avert it, because it is only in this way that the Church can be effectively renewed.”

also

According to St. Cyprian there were three reasons for the persecutions (Christians went through in 256AD) was believers could not spiritually withstand an extended period of peace and prosperity and they had fallen into materialism and worldly concerns and lost their zeal for their faith."
 
Tough times ahead?
Sure, but that has always been the case if one does a sincere research of Christian history.

Many Christians or Catholics have a really bad habit of romanticizing the historical realities of the past.

It’s never really been easy to be a sincere and authentic disciple of Christ. Never. Ever. In 2000 years if one does the research.
 
Tough times ahead?
Sure, but that has always been the case if one does a sincere research of Christian history.

Many Christians or Catholics have a really bad habit of romanticizing the historical realities of the past.

It’s never really been easy to be a sincere and authentic disciple of Christ. Never. Ever. In 2000 years if one does the research.
Very well spoken!
 
Tough times ahead?
Sure, but that has always been the case if one does a sincere research of Christian history.

Many Christians or Catholics have a really bad habit of romanticizing the historical realities of the past.

It’s never really been easy to be a sincere and authentic disciple of Christ. Never. Ever. In 2000 years if one does the research.
Very well spoken!
Yes!! It was!! :thankyou:
 
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