Does anybody see what's worng with this picture?

[aball1035]

The main reason for the threaten of his excommunication was political though, the Church is reaching out to the Jewish community, comments like that strain that relationship to breaking point, how can you build a relationship with a community, with someone in a position of power within the Church denying the holocaust, and deeply offending the Jewish community?

I’m just curious, what was the reason specifically that they caused him with excommunication for? I don’t see was they would threaten him if he simply had a lapse of judgment when talking to the press, and they apologized afterward for his remarks.

 

[Skeptic92]

I’m just curious, what was the reason specifically that they caused him with excommunication for? I don’t see was they would threaten him if he simply had a lapse of judgment when talking to the press, and they apologized afterward for his remarks.

the original excommunication was latae sententiae due to being illicitly ordained by an excommunicated Archbishop (his name escapes me at the moment) of the Society of St Pius X, that excommunication was lifted by the Holy Father, the new measures were taken due to his comments while the Church is trying to build a healthy relationship with the Jewish community. While that is more political then canonical, the right measures were taken to show his views were his own, and not that of the Church.

 

[Newbie2]

Maybe I don’t mean that nothing is being done-it’s just that it seems like every year a new swarm of accusations come to light. I’m wondering why this wasn’t dealt with years ago

There’s a book I read recently that I highly recommend that may answer some of your questions:

**Before Dallas: The U.s. Bishops’ Response to Clergy Sexual Abuse of Children **

amazon.com/Before-Dallas-Bishops-Response-Children/dp/0809105802/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1293109523&sr=8-1-spell

In my opinion, the author does a good job of objectively examining what happened and why, without trying to make “excuses” for what happened. I

Look to the media for the swarm of accusations. Seems like they designate certain months as “Let’s bash the Catholics”, and the subject gets rehashed again and again, reported like nothing has changed and nothing is or has been done about it.

 

[BGorski]

Again based ONLY on the situation I am familiar with (see my previous response), the new Bishop who had our friend removed from the priesthood was asked by some hotshot reporter if he thought his predecessor (now deceased) was “covering up” this priest’s infidelity to his vows. The Bishop explained that the procedures dictated by the Vatican and the USCCB were more strict than they had when his predecessor was in office.

The question was reported in the paper. His response was not.

That of course does not explain why priests were moved around instead of taken out. I once had a wise priest, who I consider the closest thing to a saint that I have had the pleasure of knowing, tell me that the Church is both Divine and Human.

If we consider only the Divinity of the Church, we will be disappointed by all the misdeeds of the people in the Church, secular and religious, and declare that the Church can’t possibly therefore be divine.

If we consider only the humanity of the Church, we are are confused when she displays characteristics of divinity. And because we can’t explain characteristics like saints, longevity of the Church, the good done by its members who go largely unknown, etc. we will ignore them as anomalies, rumors or legends.

Either way, we make the same mistake that the Jews made when considering Jesus as either man or divine, but not both human and divine. “How can anything good come from Galilee” and “If you are the son of God, command you angels to come down to save you.”
There are many more instances of paradoxes of Christ, and you need only look at the history of the Church to see her paradoxes.

I think we are called to accept the premise that both Christ and the Church He founded have both aspects of Divinity and humanity.

Humans make mistakes. Adam and Eve did. Why should we say that we have overcome the human characteristic of doing things wrong?

Stay blest this coming New Year.

b Gorski

 

[Rascalking]

OP-I think your right, and you raise a good points. I’m sure some priests would agree with us.

It’s a severe, severe black mark for the church. One we, as Christians, can never attempt to downplay or sweep under the rug. (No, I’m not saying was doing this. Just bringing it up because we all know that people in the past have tried to do that)