Does anyone else find it annoying when

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GwenL said:
Reference the part that I bolded. The Thirtieth Sunday in Ordinary Time celebrates the Passion, Death, and Resurrection of the Lord Jesus. Every single Sunday we celebrate Christmas and Easter! Why shouldn’t it be as “set aside” as any other Sunday?

What makes a solemnity different from the Thirtieth Sunday in Ordinary Time are the propers.

Our rector chants every DAILY Mass, and I think it’s heaven on earth. Which is what the Mass is, each and every day.

If you prefer the EF for the silence, then by all means, go to the EF. We have an EF once a month, and I go also. It is reverent and beautiful. But I prefer knowing and hearing what’s going on, so that I can join my prayers. At the EF, it’s always an estimation…I think he’s about to do the epiclesis, but I’m not really sure, because I can’t see nor hear. This is why my ideal Mass is the OF celebrated ad orientem. The priest is pointed the right direction, leading us to the East. But I know what’s going on because I can hear him, not guess based on how he twitched his right arm.

I get plenty of worshipful silence at Adoration.
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I suppose I can respect that. But if everything is done up for every Sunday mass every week, it gets a little vanilla, and then going to the Easter Vigil and Christmas masses isn’t anything to look forward to anymore. The EF has the excellent inclusion of different levels of mass, which so wonderfully suits not only the different types of celebrations based on their solemnity, but individual parish resources. If a very poor parish can only do a very modest celebration even for the most important days, the EF gives them that option, 100% codified and laid out on exactly how it should be done so that no one has to pick and choose what things money should be spent on and whatnot, because the Missal does it for them. Consistency.

I wish the OF missal would be just a bit more explicit in giving exacting instructions for consistency across parishes. The distinction between high mass and low mass not only creates interest so things aren’t always the same, but it also includes every parish of every wealth in a way that ensures consistency.

Chant definitely has a place, but imo, not all the time in every mass. But meh.
 
I’m 26 I haven’t heard a chanted Eucharistic Prayer in the NO since I was a little kid.😦 While I know the actual prayers in the EF are done quietly, every time I hear the Sursum Corda and Preface sung, I have instant nostalgic moments.😃
 
Deo_Gratias42 said:
I’m 26 I haven’t heard a chanted Eucharistic Prayer in the NO since I was a little kid.😦 While I know the actual prayers in the EF are done quietly, every time I hear the Sursum Corda and Preface sung, I have instant nostalgic moments.😃
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Chanted Prefaces and Dialogues are awesome.
 
YoungTradCath said:
I suppose I can respect that. But if everything is done up for every Sunday mass every week, it gets a little vanilla, and then going to the Easter Vigil and Christmas masses isn’t anything to look forward to anymore. The EF has the excellent inclusion of different levels of mass, which so wonderfully suits not only the different types of celebrations based on their solemnity, but individual parish resources. If a very poor parish can only do a very modest celebration even for the most important days, the EF gives them that option, 100% codified and laid out on exactly how it should be done so that no one has to pick and choose what things money should be spent on and whatnot, because the Missal does it for them. Consistency.

I wish the OF missal would be just a bit more explicit in giving exacting instructions for consistency across parishes. The distinction between high mass and low mass not only creates interest so things aren’t always the same, but it also includes every parish of every wealth in a way that ensures consistency.

Chant definitely has a place, but imo, not all the time in every mass. But meh.
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It sounds to me from this thread and other posts and threads that you base the efficacy of Holy Mass on your personal feelings.

Everyone has a right to their feelings, and I hope that every Catholic has the opportunity to attend liturgically-correct Masses that they personally find edifying.

And everyone has a right to express their opinions (especially on a forum!) and describe their own personal feelings and preferences and not be attacked for this. I am not attacking you for preferring silence or quietness in a Mass. I respect this and encourage you to seek out Masses that are in line with what you find personally edifying.

I’m only cautioning you to always remember that Holy Mother Church, in her wisdom, allows for many many “correct” options in the liturgy of the Holy Mass. The Catholic Church is not “caving in” to weaker Catholics by making these liturgy options available, but rather, opening up a “treasure chest” and allowing the priests to select which “treasures” they wish to offer at their Masses.

The priest has the authority,given to Him by the Church and therefore by Jesus Christ Himself, to select which Church-approved liturgical options are most appropriate for him and for his parish. It is our place as laypeople to submit to the authority of Holy Mother Church and our priests, and to trust that sanctifying graces are available to us at each and every Mass, even if the Mass does not appeal to our personal preferences and give us warm feelings.

I hope this advice is edifying to all.
 
YoungTradCath said:
I suppose I can respect that. But if everything is done up for every Sunday mass every week, it gets a little vanilla, and then going to the Easter Vigil and Christmas masses isn’t anything to look forward to anymore. The EF has the excellent inclusion of different levels of mass, which so wonderfully suits not only the different types of celebrations based on their solemnity, but individual parish resources. If a very poor parish can only do a very modest celebration even for the most important days, the EF gives them that option, 100% codified and laid out on exactly how it should be done so that no one has to pick and choose what things money should be spent on and whatnot, because the Missal does it for them. Consistency.

I wish the OF missal would be just a bit more explicit in giving exacting instructions for consistency across parishes. The distinction between high mass and low mass not only creates interest so things aren’t always the same, but it also includes every parish of every wealth in a way that ensures consistency.

Chant definitely has a place, but imo, not all the time in every mass. But meh.
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I don’t understand why you would have a problem with everything “done up for every Sunday Mass every week.” Isn’t Sunday Mass, for us here on earth, Christmas, Good Friday, and Easter all in one? Why would we not want to dress it up as much as humanly possible?

I think you misunderstand the OF. There are options to do a modest celebration. Daily Mass is one such option. For Sunday, the celebrant can choose to not sing, not use music, not have incense, etc. I’ve been to reverent, liturgically correct OF Masses on Sunday that took 40 minutes and had absolutely no frills. But if you can do these things, why would you not? Shouldn’t we take every possible opportunity to give glory to the Lord on His day? This is quite possible without busting the bank. Chanting and singing doesn’t cost anything extra.

Additionally, the OF Mass changes depending on the feast, memorial, or solemnity. Different readings, addition of the Gloria, and so forth, mean that the Mass is different depending on the different “level” of solemnity. I’m not sure that I understand how the EF is “better” than the OF here.

Most of the complaints on this board are that the OF has too many options, not too few.

Have you read the new Roman Missal? It is perfectly consistent “across parishes.” In fact, the references “these or similar words” are now gone, cutting out most of the options for ad-libbing. Now we need shepherds and pastors who follow it to the letter.
 
The FSSP parish, I went to for instruction, has an EF high mass every Sunday at 11AM with an earlier low mass.
 
Under the recent instructions, the priest chanting the entire Mass is preferred.

The problem is that most priests in them Latin rite have’t been trained to chant in recent decades.

Our priest also serves many Masses for the TC diocese, and has drifted into byzantine chant for both the Mass and the Gospel. They’ve generally loved it…

The chanthels focus on the reverence

hawk.
 
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