Does anyone else think Disney's Frozen sequel preaches paganism?

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Isn’t the movie set in a time and place where the people practiced a nature based paganism? Something Nordic?
 
“HumbleIOughtToBe said:
Does anyone else think Frozen 2 promotes the religion that Snowman can Talk. What is big media doing to our children? Our children are so blind they think Snowman can Talk. The only solution is to hide in a bunker and go full Benedict Option.
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Please tell me what it is in the Frozen 2 story you find so wonderful? The Evil white man who murdered the sweet, good, wholesome native, or the evil, evil, evil dam, so utterly wrong, so deserving of being smashed to bits, because science and dams and modern machinery are all Bad Things? If you think I am being waaay too harsh, I can only surmise some 7-year-old has yet to drag you to thing.
 
I was being mildly sarcastic in my response to another poster.
In all honesty, if you don’t like what content a film has in it, don’t go and don’t take your kids.

I personally see this as a non-issue. I also grew up reading quite a few children’s books on Norse, Greek, and Egyptian mythology as well as books about kids who played at being witches, and all kinds of TV shows and movies with mythology or magical overtones. It didn’t make me turn pagan. If some other kid can’t handle that it’s a fairy tale, then her parents should limit her exposure accordingly.
 
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The Frozen sequel seemed to me to promote the gods of earth, fire, and water. At least it seemed that way to me.
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I have not seen Frozen or any of its sequels. But I do recall once writing a paper on the four humours of medieval medicine which arose from the four elements of earth, air, fire, and water, and corresponded to the four personality types of sanguine, phlegmatic, melancholic, and choleric. The four humours seem to have been referenced a lot in Elizabethan and Jacobean drama. But that was long before the rise of big pharma or Disney.
 
Not really because they had photographs by the end of the movie. The one thing that I really thought about was when rock grandpa said all we can do is pray. I was like, “to who!?”

It’s quite likely they were though. Not like it matters because I don’t believe it was specifically shown.
 
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I also grew up reading quite a few children’s books on Norse, Greek, and Egyptian mythology as well as books about kids who played at being witches, and all kinds of TV shows and movies with mythology or magical overtones
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My friends and I used to watch. A Saturday morning kids show called Shazaam and Isis Hour (or something). Then we’d take turns playing we were Isis. The boys, of course, were welcome to be Shazaam.

It didn’t turn us Pagans.
 
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HumbleIOughtToBe:
Does anyone else think Frozen 2 promotes the religion that Snowman can Talk.
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Yeah, that started back in the 1970s with Frosty the Snowman and the Abominable Snowman from Rudolph. Of course, in those days parents just assumed kids knew it was only make-believe.
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Correct. Of course, today talking snowmen need to be accompanied by trigger warnings.
 
Elsa and Anna live and their parents are dead. They are opposite personalities and have to thrive together. Just a few hours after I watched the movie around 2AM my Father Grabbed my Mom’s arm, collapsed, was in the hospital, and died. I see the fear in Elsa and the understanding that I must stand by my Brother.
“Magic (Religion) makes people feel too powerful, too entitled. It makes them think they can defy the will of a king.”
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Notice how this is the attitude of New Atheists to Catholicism. Religion makes us loyal to something that is not the state and thus we must be eliminated.
Olaf drops redpills that are hard to swallow:
“This will all make sense when I am older”.
“Hey, let me ask you, how do you guys cope with the ever increasing complexity of thought that comes with maturity?”
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I remember watching Disney’s Hercules growing up and loving the designs for the greek gods, but never made me think they were all real.
 
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Yes, the portrayal of the Indians in Peter Pan was so wholesome…

Every era of movies has its own issues.
 
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The Frozen sequel seemed to me to promote the gods of earth, fire, and water. At least it seemed that way to me.
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I have concerns about many modern Hollywood offerings. Both for children and adults.
 
I always envy those who get the second post, and therefore first pounce, on these threads.
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Those characters with ugly big anime heads as opposed to something proportionate turned me off enough to make me skip the whole thing.
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My children actually say the same thing. They miss the cartoon-form movies.
 
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They miss the cartoon-form movies
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I don’t mind computer animation so much, but why does every single animated movie have to be that? I want some traditional animation. The last major Disney release, that I know of that was traditional animation was the Princess and the Frog, and I think that was in 2009.
 
I don’t think simply having elemental gods is enough for something to be considered to be promoting paganism. Tolkien was a devout Catholic and I’m certain his fantasy worlds had magic and yet, none would attempt to argue that Tolkien attempts to encourage witchcraft amongst his readers.
 
I think they just based it off a general prehistoric narrative. Coming from a ‘Nordic’ (Swedish 😉 ) household my bedtime stories typically involved the polytheist structure usually associated with Norse mythology which would have been a more accurate depiction in the movie. All that aside I’m still a practicing Catholic so I don’t think Disney is doing much harm 😂
 
Honestly I believe it to be a slightly softer narrative about living in harmony with nature since no actual praying/worshipping happened and not messing with it beyond what is truly needed (ex. the “Evil dam”) than the one you proposed but to each their own 😊
 
I think Frozen 1 had a wonderful message about family coming first. And dispels the ludicrous notion you can fall in love with somone within a few days.

If you’re getting worried about Disney movies I’d avoid TV altogether. It’s make believe. I grew up on Voltron and Disney princesses. I’ve never wanted to change species, abandon my family for love to be saved by a knight in shining armor.
 
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