Does anyone use this Bible?

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This is sort of a spin-off of a thread I participated in a while back but I was curious as to everyone’s opinion…

Does anyone use the New Oxford Annotated Bible, RSV (that has the Deuterocanical/Apocryphal books, including those accepted by the Eastern Church? Here’s the link to the one I’m talking about.

Just curious if any other Catholics (or Protestants too:) ) use this one…

Thanks for your (name removed by moderator)ut!!!
 
I forgot to add something…if you do or don’t use this Bible…why? Thanks!
 
I don’t use it or have it because I just never encountered it before.

Would there be a reason to include it in my library? (I have a NRSV Bible that contains all of the Greek Orthodox books in it, as well. I haven’t read the entire thing, though - I’m afraid I tend to use that one mostly for the study helps in the back.)
 
Yes, I read the Bible daily but we must remember that we “use” the Bible at every Mass. If we attend Mass every Sunday for three years we will have gone through around 70% of the entire Bible. So many Catholics are quick to say that they haven’t read the bible in years but admit to regular Mass attendance. I realize that for the purpose of this poll we are looking for those who actually pick up a Bible on their own and read it. But I just thought that I would add my :twocents: God bless…teachccd 🙂
 
Yes, I read the Bible daily but we must remember that we “use” the Bible at every Mass. If we attend Mass every Sunday for three years we will have gone through around 70% of the entire Bible. So many Catholics are quick to say that they haven’t read the bible in years but admit to regular Mass attendance. I realize that for the purpose of this poll we are looking for those who actually pick up a Bible on their own and read it. But I just thought that I would add my :twocents: God bless…teachccd 🙂
I thought she meant, who reads that specific Oxord Annotated RSV Bible, so I answered “no.” :o 😊

Yes, I read the Bible every day. Mostly as a reference book; I don’t read it devotionally as often as I think I should.
 
I thought she meant, who reads that specific Oxord Annotated RSV Bible, so I answered “no.” :o 😊

Yes, I read the Bible every day. Mostly as a reference book; I don’t read it devotionally as often as I think I should.
You know…I think that you were right…Oh well…:o 😊 😊 😊
 
I have my Scepter RSV-CE as well but I also have this one and sometimes use it because it is a bit bigger and easier to read & hold I think
I haven’t encountered that one before. But I LOVE the RSV-CE!
 
I do use the specific New Oxford Annotated Bible-RSV (1st edition) [NOAB-1] you mention. It was my textbook in a secular university when I formally studied the Bible in college, and I learned to enjoy it then. (At the time, it “ruled the roost” as the standard secular and ecumenical study Bible.)

The annotations are something of an “official” annotation to the (ecumenical version) of the RSV because of the the heavy involvement of RSV translators in preparing the annotations. The NOAB-1 proved to be quite influential – in fact, the original [not new] Oxford Annotated Bible reportedly even received the imprimatur from Richard Cardinal Cushing.

The annotations to the NOAB-1 contain useful information and do not appear especially denominational to me (however, the annotators are overwhelmingly mainline Protestants). At the time the NOAB-1 was published, it was considered to be a “liberal” study Bible – however, as contemporary secular Bible studies has become increasingly liberal, the NOAB-1 is now considered to be moderately conservative.

It is important to also keep in mind the limitations of the NOAB-1 – it is **not **a Catholic commentary; this edition of the RSV does **not **have the imprimatur (and includes works in the Eastern Orthodox canon that are **not **in the Roman Catholic canon); and the scholarship is rather dated (for example, it takes little note of the the Dead Sea Scrolls). By today’s contemporary standards, the annotation is relatively light – many more recent academic study Bibles or devotional study Bibles contain much more lengthy annotation.

The NOAB-1 takes a more traditional viewpoint than the Oxford Catholic Study Bible (2nd edition), for example, but lacks the devotional or Roman approach of some of the other study Bibles (such as the *Navarre *or Ignatius) recommended on this forum.

Nonetheless, the NOAB-1 is considered to be so important that it stays in print after 30 years (in both hardcover and leather editions) even though a number of later editions appeared.

There are major differences between the NOAB-1 and the New Oxford Study Bible-NRSV (3rd augmented edition) [NOAB-3].
  • The NOAB-1 is based on the RSV, the NOAB-3 is based on the NRSV.
  • The NOAB-1 editors and commentators are dominated by Mainline Protestants, while the NOAB-3 includes prominent Catholic and Jewish editors and commentators.
  • The NOAB-1 editors and commentators have a close connection with the actual RSV translators, while the NOAB-3 editors and commentators are not as closely connected with the NRSV (or RSV) translation.
  • The NOAB-1 today is considered to be a moderately conservative study Bible, while most people consider the NOAB-3 to be a moderately liberal study Bible (I do not completely agree with this sentiment, but a discussion of that point will take me far away from your question.)
  • The NOAB-1 has relatively concise essays and annotation; the NOAB-3 contains much wordier annotation and essays. (Which of the two styles your prefer is a matter of taste; but I would start with the lighter annotations.)
  • The NOAB-3 is physically larger than the NOAB-1.
    Two other NRSV-study Bibles often compared with the NOAB-3 are New Interpreter’s Study Bible and the HarperCollins Study Bible (2nd edition). Both of these contain even longer annotation than the NOAB-3 I find the New Interpreter’s to be easy to read but liberal in outlook. I find the HarperCollins to be scholarly (and, in places, difficult) but it is sloppily edited (rather a large number of repetitions, grammatical errors, etc.).
Because the all of the Bibles discussed in my post (except for the Oxford Catholic Study Bible) are ecumenical and lack the imprimatur, I recommend using them only in conjunction with an approved Catholic reference. However, of all of the study Bibles I discussed in this post, the NOAB-1 is the most conservative – both “politically” (in terms of being in harmony with tradition) and “stylistically” (being concise and cautious in speculation). For example, most of my Orthodox scholar friends use the NOAB-1.

I do think that the book is one of the physically nicest presentations of the RSV in print, in terms of layout, font size, typography, etc.

The bottom line is that I like the NOAB-1 – but I also recommend using it in conjunction with more traditional commentary. I also suggest that you consult with your priest or other spiritual advisor before using the NOAB-1. Because the NOAB-1 dominated secular and ecumenical Bible study in the 1970s, 1980s, and the first part of the 1990s (and continues to be held in high esteem in many circles) most clergy will be quite familiar with this work.

People tend to have strong opinions on this sort of topic, and I am sure you will receive a wide diversity of useful opinions. Happy reading!
 
I also use this Bible, but not alone and in conjuction with other translations. If you’re serious about Bible study, you cannot rely upon just one translation. It’s eyeopening to contrast how differently certain passages of Scripture are handled by different versions!

Like BibleReader, I also have the Harper Collins NRSV edition…and don’t recommend it. Solidly liberal Protestant. Although, good for contrasting perspective.

Although I do not like the NAB at all, it is the de facto Catholic translation. If you’re looking for a decent edition, get the New Catholic Anwsers Bible.
 
I do use the specific New Oxford Annotated Bible-RSV (1st edition) [NOAB-1] you mention. It was my textbook in a secular university when I formally studied the Bible in college, and I learned to enjoy it then. (At the time, it “ruled the roost” as the standard secular and ecumenical study Bible.)

The annotations are something of an “official” annotation to the (ecumenical version) of the RSV because of the the heavy involvement of RSV translators in preparing the annotations. The NOAB-1 proved to be quite influential – in fact, the original [not new] Oxford Annotated Bible reportedly even received the imprimatur from Richard Cardinal Cushing.

The annotations to the NOAB-1 contain useful information and do not appear especially denominational to me (however, the annotators are overwhelmingly mainline Protestants). At the time the NOAB-1 was published, it was considered to be a “liberal” study Bible – however, as contemporary secular Bible studies has become increasingly liberal, the NOAB-1 is now considered to be moderately conservative.

It is important to also keep in mind the limitations of the NOAB-1 – it is **not **a Catholic commentary; this edition of the RSV does **not **have the imprimatur (and includes works in the Eastern Orthodox canon that are **not **in the Roman Catholic canon); and the scholarship is rather dated (for example, it takes little note of the the Dead Sea Scrolls). By today’s contemporary standards, the annotation is relatively light – many more recent academic study Bibles or devotional study Bibles contain much more lengthy annotation.

The NOAB-1 takes a more traditional viewpoint than the Oxford Catholic Study Bible (2nd edition), for example, but lacks the devotional or Roman approach of some of the other study Bibles (such as the *Navarre *or Ignatius) recommended on this forum.

Nonetheless, the NOAB-1 is considered to be so important that it stays in print after 30 years (in both hardcover and leather editions) even though a number of later editions appeared.

There are major differences between the NOAB-1 and the New Oxford Study Bible-NRSV (3rd augmented edition) [NOAB-3].
  • The NOAB-1 is based on the RSV, the NOAB-3 is based on the NRSV.
  • The NOAB-1 editors and commentators are dominated by Mainline Protestants, while the NOAB-3 includes prominent Catholic and Jewish editors and commentators.
  • The NOAB-1 editors and commentators have a close connection with the actual RSV translators, while the NOAB-3 editors and commentators are not as closely connected with the NRSV (or RSV) translation.
  • The NOAB-1 today is considered to be a moderately conservative study Bible, while most people consider the NOAB-3 to be a moderately liberal study Bible (I do not completely agree with this sentiment, but a discussion of that point will take me far away from your question.)
  • The NOAB-1 has relatively concise essays and annotation; the NOAB-3 contains much wordier annotation and essays. (Which of the two styles your prefer is a matter of taste; but I would start with the lighter annotations.)
  • The NOAB-3 is physically larger than the NOAB-1.
    Two other NRSV-study Bibles often compared with the NOAB-3 are New Interpreter’s Study Bible and the HarperCollins Study Bible (2nd edition). Both of these contain even longer annotation than the NOAB-3 I find the New Interpreter’s to be easy to read but liberal in outlook. I find the HarperCollins to be scholarly (and, in places, difficult) but it is sloppily edited (rather a large number of repetitions, grammatical errors, etc.).
Because the all of the Bibles discussed in my post (except for the Oxford Catholic Study Bible) are ecumenical and lack the imprimatur, I recommend using them only in conjunction with an approved Catholic reference. However, of all of the study Bibles I discussed in this post, the NOAB-1 is the most conservative – both “politically” (in terms of being in harmony with tradition) and “stylistically” (being concise and cautious in speculation). For example, most of my Orthodox scholar friends use the NOAB-1.

I do think that the book is one of the physically nicest presentations of the RSV in print, in terms of layout, font size, typography, etc.

The bottom line is that I like the NOAB-1 – but I also recommend using it in conjunction with more traditional commentary. I also suggest that you consult with your priest or other spiritual advisor before using the NOAB-1. Because the NOAB-1 dominated secular and ecumenical Bible study in the 1970s, 1980s, and the first part of the 1990s (and continues to be held in high esteem in many circles) most clergy will be quite familiar with this work.

People tend to have strong opinions on this sort of topic, and I am sure you will receive a wide diversity of useful opinions. Happy reading!
How do these bibles differ from the Oxford Study Bible:Revised English Bible with Apocrypha?
 
How do these bibles differ from the Oxford Study Bible:Revised English Bible with Apocrypha?
Except for having a common publisher, they are completely different. The NOAB-1 is based on the RSV, the NOAB-3 is based on the NRSV, and the Oxford Study Bible is based on the Revised English Bible (REB) translation. The REB is even more lightly annotated than the NOAB-1.

The REB was an ecumenical translation and had Catholic involvement, but it never received an imprimatur (unlike the NRSV and the RSV-CE.) The REB is a revision of the New English Bible (NEB) translation, which made some highly unusual translation decisions. The REB reversed the most egregious of those unusual decisions, but is still regarded as an idiosyncratic translation. While some may find the novelty of the NEB and REB engaging, perhaps most Catholics will prefer to know how the Church understands Scripture, or at least the main consensus view of academic scholars. Because of its idiosyncrasies, the REB will not consistently give you mainstream views or that of the Church.

The REB has some elegant language, but it is a more interpretive and less literal translation (some people use the term “dynamic translation” to refer to interpretive translations such as the REB.) The REB is not widely used in teaching or in critical studies. In fact, I noticed the Oxford Study Bible has gone out of print in hardcover and leather and is now available only in paperback.

So, in the end, I think the decision comes down to choice of translation. If you are interested in the REB translation, then the Oxford Study Bible may be the version to get, since it appears to be the only annotated version of the REB. (While they are rare, the REB does have the occasional passionate advocate.) However, speaking for myself, I don’t find the REB to be a particularly useful translation; and the annotations of the Oxford Study Bible are so light that I cannot recommend it.
 
Except for having a common publisher, they are completely different. The NOAB-1 is based on the RSV, the NOAB-3 is based on the NRSV, and the Oxford Study Bible is based on the Revised English Bible (REB) translation. The REB is even more lightly annotated than the NOAB-1.

The REB was an ecumenical translation and had Catholic involvement, but it never received an imprimatur (unlike the NRSV and the RSV-CE.) The REB is a revision of the New English Bible (NEB) translation, which made some highly unusual translation decisions. The REB reversed the most egregious of those unusual decisions, but is still regarded as an idiosyncratic translation. While some may find the novelty of the NEB and REB engaging, perhaps most Catholics will prefer to know how the Church understands Scripture, or at least the main consensus view of academic scholars. Because of its idiosyncrasies, the REB will not consistently give you mainstream views or that of the Church.

The REB has some elegant language, but it is a more interpretive and less literal translation (some people use the term “dynamic translation” to refer to interpretive translations such as the REB.) The REB is not widely used in teaching or in critical studies. In fact, I noticed the Oxford Study Bible has gone out of print in hardcover and leather and is now available only in paperback.

So, in the end, I think the decision comes down to choice of translation. If you are interested in the REB translation, then the Oxford Study Bible may be the version to get, since it appears to be the only annotated version of the REB. (While they are rare, the REB does have the occasional passionate advocate.) However, speaking for myself, I don’t find the REB to be a particularly useful translation; and the annotations of the Oxford Study Bible are so light that I cannot recommend it.
Thanks. I don’t actually use it. I use the Douey-Rheims Bible with Haydock Commentary.
 
This is sort of a spin-off of a thread I participated in a while back but I was curious as to everyone’s opinion…

Does anyone use the New Oxford Annotated Bible, RSV (that has the Deuterocanical/Apocryphal books, including those accepted by the Eastern Church? Here’s the link to the one I’m talking about.

Just curious if any other Catholics (or Protestants too:) ) use this one…

Thanks for your (name removed by moderator)ut!!!
I’m Catholic, I own one but have hardly used it.

I bought it because it had the complete text of the RSV; I got it at a discount at a Christian Book Distributors sale (my copy is missing several pages in 4 Maccabees) in 1990, long before I had internet access. Many articles in print media (e.g., Christianity Today, biblical reference works, etc.) had compared various versions of the bible (I couldn’t get enough of this! still can’t, in fact), and helped me conclude that I needed a complete RSV. Besides- all Christians should accept this, right? Look, it said right on the cover, “An Ecumenical Study Bible”, and didn’t Cardinal Cushing grant the Imprimatur to the earlier edition of this work? Sure.

Well, I was disappointed, since I’d been using the NJB for a few years, and the latter knocked the socks off of the NOAB in terms of footnotes, cross-references, book introductions, indexes, book sub-divisions, headings, etc., AND - the NJB is Catholic. True, the NOAB is easier on my eyes, as far as white space and font are concerned, than the Ignatius RSV-CE (which I also own), but I’m not at ease with the bland commentary.
 
Except for having a common publisher, they are completely different. The NOAB-1 is based on the RSV, the NOAB-3 is based on the NRSV, and the Oxford Study Bible is based on the Revised English Bible (REB) translation. The REB is even more lightly annotated than the NOAB-1.

The REB was an ecumenical translation and had Catholic involvement, but it never received an imprimatur (unlike the NRSV and the RSV-CE.) The REB is a revision of the New English Bible (NEB) translation, which made some highly unusual translation decisions. The REB reversed the most egregious of those unusual decisions, but is still regarded as an idiosyncratic translation. While some may find the novelty of the NEB and REB engaging, perhaps most Catholics will prefer to know how the Church understands Scripture, or at least the main consensus view of academic scholars. Because of its idiosyncrasies, the REB will not consistently give you mainstream views or that of the Church.

The REB has some elegant language, but it is a more interpretive and less literal translation (some people use the term “dynamic translation” to refer to interpretive translations such as the REB.) The REB is not widely used in teaching or in critical studies. In fact, I noticed the Oxford Study Bible has gone out of print in hardcover and leather and is now available only in paperback.

So, in the end, I think the decision comes down to choice of translation. If you are interested in the REB translation, then the Oxford Study Bible may be the version to get, since it appears to be the only annotated version of the REB. (While they are rare, the REB does have the occasional passionate advocate.) However, speaking for myself, I don’t find the REB to be a particularly useful translation; and the annotations of the Oxford Study Bible are so light that I cannot recommend it.
The REB is a nice enough translation, as far as modern translations go, and is certainly more straightforward than its predecessor, the NEB (*especially *in the Old Testament - the big weakness of the NEB). There are very few decent printings of the REB though; the Oxford Study edition being discussed here has the clearest layout, and largest font, but the ‘study notes’ are awful; liberal Protestantism of an extreme nature. I personally can’t work out who exactly such bibles are aimed at. They are certainly not spiritually nourishing, and if someone is so sceptical about the bible to value such notes then it does beg the question, why are they so interested in reading the bible anyway?!
 
The REB is a nice enough translation, as far as modern translations go, and is certainly more straightforward than its predecessor, the NEB (*especially *in the Old Testament - the big weakness of the NEB). There are very few decent printings of the REB though; the Oxford Study edition being discussed here has the clearest layout, and largest font, but the ‘study notes’ are awful; liberal Protestantism of an extreme nature. I personally can’t work out who exactly such bibles are aimed at. They are certainly not spiritually nourishing, and if someone is so sceptical about the bible to value such notes then it does beg the question, why are they so interested in reading the bible anyway?!
Personally, I don’t see them as very Protestant of very Catholic either way. They say both the Catholic and Protestant perspective.
 
Personally, I don’t see them as very Protestant of very Catholic either way. They say both the Catholic and Protestant perspective.
Kristy, you are right – in the notes they do mention where Catholics and Protestants (and, in the Old Testament, Jews) differ in interpretation.
 
I am a Catholic and I do not use the New Oxford Annotated RSV Bible. I do use an RSV Bible with the deuterocanonicals in it though. 🙂
 
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