Does Being Saved Mean you can sin and go to Heaven

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Janet1983 said:
  • Paul Washer
  • Charo Washer
  • John MacArthur
  • John Hallum
  • Nathan Zimmerman
Their life is evidence that their are truly slaves of Jesus Christ and serve Him alone. Their sole focus is first of all Jesus Christ.
Christians in areas where there is severe persecution are giving evidence too. They might pay for their love for Jesus Christ with their lives.
Many missionaries throughout the ages fall into that category too… did you ever read about the life of Adoniram Judson?

Oh my… I forgot about the one person I can personally attest to: Me.
I am not saved because of my merit, but because of His merit. He is my Lord and I am His slave.
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Catholics can also count the Apostles, St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas…I could go on…Are these people not an testament as well? Also, Catholics do not believe we saved by our own works–grace enables us to good works.

So if you sin, then no consequences other than loss of fellowship?
Can you respond to this:

If Christ sacrifice took all the person’s past, present, and future’s sins and Christ was punished by Hell for it, then why would this person go to Hell if Christ has already done so? Wouldn’t that be double jeopardy for the righteous person? Hence if one chooses to sin or walk with God is merely academic. Salvation is assured and works (whether dead or good) doesn’t matter.
 
Janet1983 said:
  • Paul Washer
  • Charo Washer
  • John MacArthur
  • John Hallum
  • Nathan Zimmerman
Their life is evidence that their are truly slaves of Jesus Christ and serve Him alone. Their sole focus is first of all Jesus Christ.
Christians in areas where there is severe persecution are giving evidence too. They might pay for their love for Jesus Christ with their lives.
Many missionaries throughout the ages fall into that category too… did you ever read about the life of Adoniram Judson?

Oh my… I forgot about the one person I can personally attest to: Me.
I am not saved because of my merit, but because of His merit. He is my Lord and I am His slave.
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I have never heard of any of those guys and had to Google them to find out anything about them. When you listed them i thought they must be evangelical equivalents of Mother Theresa and truely expected to read about them working in sub Sahara Africa feeding the poor. So you can imagine my surprise when i discovered that they seem to be preacher men and other than that i could not find anything exceptional about them, So what makes these preachers so special that they are saved? There have been plenty of Charlatans in the past and whose to say that these guys wont turn out to be the same. Or is that the point - just because they are preachers and therefore committed themselves to Jesus they can from this point onwards to whatever they want and not to go to heaven?
 
ConfusedTim said:
I have never heard of any of those guys and had to Google them to find out anything about them. When you listed them i thought they must be evangelical equivalents of Mother Theresa and truely expected to read about them working in sub Sahara Africa feeding the poor. So you can imagine my surprise when i discovered that they seem to be preacher men and other than that i could not find anything exceptional about them, So what makes these preachers so special that they are saved? There have been plenty of Charlatans in the past and whose to say that these guys wont turn out to be the same. Or is that the point - just because they are preachers and therefore committed themselves to Jesus they can from this point onwards to whatever they want and not to go to heaven?
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Macarthur is a jerk. He is rude, arrogant, and he has no problem telling you that Catholics are hell-bound.
 
Dancelittleewok said:
If Christ sacrifice took all the person’s past, present, and future’s sins and Christ was punished by Hell for it, then why would this person go to Hell if Christ has already done so? Wouldn’t that be double jeopardy for the righteous person? Hence if one chooses to sin or walk with God is merely academic. Salvation is assured and works (whether dead or good) doesn’t matter.
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A saved person is not going to hell. Jesus Christ died for his sins and He is the one who changes and guides those who are His.
I am a slave of the Lord. My life is over. My major focus is not on me nor on the world, but on Him whom I am enslaved to.
 
ConfusedTim said:
I have never heard of any of those guys and had to Google them to find out anything about them. When you listed them i thought they must be evangelical equivalents of Mother Theresa and truely expected to read about them working in sub Sahara Africa feeding the poor. So you can imagine my surprise when i discovered that they seem to be preacher men and other than that i could not find anything exceptional about them, So what makes these preachers so special that they are saved? There have been plenty of Charlatans in the past and whose to say that these guys wont turn out to be the same. Or is that the point - just because they are preachers and therefore committed themselves to Jesus they can from this point onwards to whatever they want and not to go to heaven?
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What makes these preachers so special is not what they do but the saving work of Jesus Christ which is visible in their lives.
Paul Washer spent most of his time as a missionary in Peru by the way…
Here is another one: Adoniram Judson
 
ConfusedTim said:
Honest question to all non Catholics - Lets say i commit myself to Jesus with all my heart - and then later sin - in your interpretation of being saved does that mean that even if commit a mortal sin like murder I am still assured of heaven?
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There are no guarantees. You’ll be judged on the day of resurrection based on your actions throughout your life. I suspect that if you commit a mortal sin like murder, I’m sure you’ll have a lot of explaining to do.
 
The CC teaches that in the end we’ll be judged on our love. Sin is diametrically opposed to love-and opposed to the “vision” of God simply because sin means we’re attached to things other than Him first. Gods purpose is to mold us, with our cooperation, into beings who willingly choose to love Him with our whole heart, soul, mind, and strength and our neighbor as ourselves as we finally learn the value of love. This is a process, in Catholic teaching, which begins with faith and proceeds to repentance, Baptism, and, generally, a lifetime of struggle with sin, falling and rising, growing nearer to the perfection He envisions for man. And we trust that ‘He who began a good work in us will carry it on to completion’, paraphrasing Phil 1:6.
 
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