Does Catholic rudeness keep you away from the Church?

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LilyM said:
No - for one thing there’s a more sizable than average population of grumps in most every large city. Knowing that, I wouldn’t pick out New York per se as the factor, rather city living in general.

For another, knowing that New York has a population of what, somewhere around the 10 million mark? I’d realise that 1,000 people isn’t a decent cross-section. Thus the starting premise - that New Yorkers are grumpy - could be faulty.

Above all, jerkhood is a complex thing and I would never be so reductionist as to assume that there’s any single factor which jerks have in common. 🤷
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So therefore, we should all try not to be jerks since we can’t even understand any single factor of being jerks 🤷 What?

Most of us understand what constitutes a jerk and let us strive not to be one - please;)
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
NO! The church which was founded by Jesus Christ should matter and that’s it. period.
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For someone that is on here and open to discussion, that might be enough.

For a non-believer who wants to go to a restaurant on a Sunday morning with their family for breakfast and instead gets to witness the often appalling manner in which those going to or coming from church conduct themselves, is it enough?
 
LilyM said:
No - for one thing there’s a more sizable than average population of grumps in most every large city. Knowing that, I wouldn’t pick out New York per se as the factor, rather city living in general.

For another, knowing that New York has a population of what, somewhere around the 10 million mark? I’d realise that 1,000 people isn’t a decent cross-section. Thus the starting premise - that New Yorkers are grumpy - could be faulty.

Above all, jerkhood is a complex thing and I would never be so reductionist as to assume that there’s any single factor which jerks have in common. 🤷
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The one thing that jerks have in common is the way that they conduct themselves and act…of course, since that is the essence of what makes them a jerk, we’re running in circles here.😉
 
Frankly, when I go to church I dont’ fus about what other people are doing, I fuss about what’s happening in my soul. I see people who don’t seem to care that they’ve just taken in their Lord and Saviour at eucharist time.

Same with other rude catholics and christains on the internet. Sure, I like to get me in a debate and such on the net, but at the end of the day how they treat others and how lousey their manners are between them and God, not me.
 
Hajnalcsillag said:
For someone that is on here and open to discussion, that might be enough.

For a non-believer who wants to go to a restaurant on a Sunday morning with their family for breakfast and instead gets to witness the often appalling manner in which those going to or coming from church conduct themselves, is it enough?
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You cannot be serious in this example. THE CHURCH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE. YOU ARE THERE BECAUSE JESUS ESTABLISHED IT…
 
1holycatholic said:
Some find His teachings hard to accept, and they walk away from His Church.
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**Then they use the excuse that the people are rude…the most rudest, arrogant people I have ever met were Protestants because they figure they can kill their neighbor and say “whoops…I’m sorry” and go straight to heaven…good grief. 🤷 **
 
Whilst considering Catholicism, I ran into a great many people, not just on this message board, but other places, who were very condescending, hypocritical, rude, borderline hateful, toward people who believed otherwise. Which is why I ultimately decided against it. Most religions, to some extent, have an attitude of “I’m right and everyone else is stupid and wrong” but Catholicism really takes it to the extreme.
 
apromisemade said:
Whilst considering Catholicism, I ran into a great many people, not just on this message board, but other places, who were very condescending, hypocritical, rude, borderline hateful, toward people who believed otherwise. Which is why I ultimately decided against it. Most religions, to some extent, have an attitude of “I’m right and everyone else is stupid and wrong” but Catholicism really takes it to the extreme.
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That is because Christ established the Catholic church whether that’s hard for you to grasp or not and people here and other Catholics defend their church. It is as if they are defending Christ. If you think Catholics take it to the extreme, it is because, well, Jesus founded the Catholic church.
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
**Then they use the excuse that the people are rude…the most rudest, arrogant people I have ever met were Protestants because they figure they can kill their neighbor and say “whoops…I’m sorry” and go straight to heaven…good grief. 🤷 **
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Now that’s what we mean by rude and extremely uncharitible too boot. How can you paint such a broad and vicious brush? What a vile mis-statement of any theology.
 
theistgal said:
Not naming any names, but I notice quite a few posts and threads in this section which seem to be unnecessarily belligerent and argumentative towards Protestants.

I’m a Catholic, but I’ve been outside the Church more than once in my life. And during those times, when I would venture to Catholic or Christian discussion boards, I’d really be offended and put off by that kind of message.

For me, it was the kind Christians - the ones who had a sense of humor and tried to engage me where I was, rather than argue with me - who “softened me up” and got me in the state of mind where I could seriously reconsider coming home.

What do you think, non-Catholics (and non-Christians)? What kind of Catholic would you prefer to deal with - one who constantly tells you you’re on the road to Hell, or one who walks by your side, chatting and laughing and using “gentle persuasion”?
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I found it to be the same way here, rather then run to it I was ready to run from it by the way some of these so called catholic Christians acted
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
That is because Christ established the Catholic church whether that’s hard for you to grasp or not and people here and other Catholics defend their church. It is as if they are defending Christ. If you think Catholics take it to the extreme, it is because, well, Jesus founded the Catholic church.
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Your rudeness is quite unbecoming. Your opinions are of course your own, but of course, you are a great advertisement for exactly what the OP meant.
 
NDfan said:
What I find amusing is that many here are not even familiar with what current Catholic doctrine states. Especially regarding Protestant denominations. After Vat I protestants were basically considered dog meat heretics in the eyes of the RCC. Now suddenly after Vat II they are considered separated brethren. I think at one time when the church strong armed people and threatened excommunicated they would adhere and comply with whatever the church stated. Obviously the Reformers weren’t having any of that which is what I think led to the softened position of Vat II.
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I went back to the Vatican I documents to see where it said protestants were dog meat heretics (or something similar), but couldn’t find anything that looked like it. Could you point me as to where you saw that in the documents?

I did see this
Likewise all other things which have been transmitted, defined and declared by the sacred canons and the ecumenical councils, especially the sacred Trent, I accept unhesitatingly and profess; in the same way whatever is to the contrary, and whatever heresies have been condemned, rejected and anathematized by the Church, I too condemn, reject and anathematize.
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This true Catholic faith, outside of which none can be saved, which I now freely profess and truly hold, is what I shall steadfastly maintain and confess, by the help of God, in all its completeness and purity until my dying breath, and I shall do my best to ensure [2] that all others do the same. This is what I, the same Pius, promise, vow and swear. So help me God and these holy gospels of God.
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Is that the information to which you were referring?
 
apromisemade said:
Whilst considering Catholicism, I ran into a great many people, not just on this message board, but other places, who were very condescending, hypocritical, rude, borderline hateful, toward people who believed otherwise. Which is why I ultimately decided against it. Most religions, to some extent, have an attitude of “I’m right and everyone else is stupid and wrong” but Catholicism really takes it to the extreme.
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I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS WITH BAPTIST
 
BILL PICK said:
I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS WITH BAPTIST
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Do you question that they examine themselves with this same topic? And when they do, do they internet yell. That is what locked caps means in the BBS world.
 
theistgal said:
Not naming any names, but I notice quite a few posts and threads in this section which seem to be unnecessarily belligerent and argumentative towards Protestants.

I’m a Catholic, but I’ve been outside the Church more than once in my life. And during those times, when I would venture to Catholic or Christian discussion boards, I’d really be offended and put off by that kind of message.

For me, it was the kind Christians - the ones who had a sense of humor and tried to engage me where I was, rather than argue with me - who “softened me up” and got me in the state of mind where I could seriously reconsider coming home.

What do you think, non-Catholics (and non-Christians)? What kind of Catholic would you prefer to deal with - one who constantly tells you you’re on the road to Hell, or one who walks by your side, chatting and laughing and using “gentle persuasion”?
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I am a non Catholic who is considering Catholicism in the future. The answer is no. I’ve been around Protestants of all varieties, as well as Orthodox of all kinds (oriental and eastern, convert and cradle, Slavic, middle eastern, Greek, African etc.). And by far, I can state that Catholics on average are usually the nicest of them all (except for maybe “Emergent” Protestants and some of my Egyptian church folk)
 
SpiritMeadow said:
Your rudeness is quite unbecoming. Your opinions are of course your own, but of course, you are a great advertisement for exactly what the OP meant.
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**But you aren’t Catholic, therefore you will pick me apart bit by bit. It isn’t rudeness you speak of, but truth that you are afraid of. **
 
Funny, though, considering the serious question of the OP:

How long did it take for this thread to turn into another non-RC-bashing? :rolleyes:
 
Any denomination or religion is going to have unpleasant characters in it. Having previously worked in restaurants, particularly on Sundays, this is simply a fact of life.

The inevitability of encountering jerks doesn’t excuse those who act in a rather disgusting manner toward their fellow man.
 
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