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Glark
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I can’t recant that claiim - the Holy Spirit won’t let me.
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Aloysium
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If only the basic interactions of matter govern how everything works, then all the complexity that exists beyond them arose by chance, including ourselves. I would assume that people can explain what the weather does in terms of how matter behaves. Maybe it’s not that simple. We do such things as politics, economics, and science. Like the weather, if all is grounded on the properties that we have thus far discovered, or believe we will discover through physics, then all these human activities are random meaningless occurrences. I don’t believe that there is one scientist, outside of a psychiatric facility, who behaves as if this is the case. If current scientific, evolutionary thinking is correct, then all these fancy devices arose randomly from rocks.
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Techno2000
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Rau:
Rau, did you know that since I mentioned the Jewish date of 5887 years, you have mentioned it about 1,396,241 times? You seemed to have become obsessed with it. I apologise for introducing this virus into your brain. If there is anything I can do to help, please let me know.
P.S. Please don’t sue me.
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edwest211
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Based on the fact that it is not testable or predictable, I would agree. Nothing is lost since research in biology requires dealing with things that are alive right now. And a lot of the intricate workings of DNA, mRNA and molecular switches have yet to be figured out.
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buffalo
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There are plenty of assumptions as to ages of fossils. Mostly it is done by assigning dates to rock layers they are found in.
Most “species” went extinct.
Most “species” went extinct.
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buffalo
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In the areas where faith and reason intersect both have to be true.
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buffalo
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Here is why: Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.
It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.
The eminent Kant scholar Lewis Beck used to say that anyone who could believe in God could believe in anything. To appeal to an omnipotent deity is to allow that at any moment the regularities of nature may be ruptured, that Miracles may happen. Professor Richard Lewontin Evolutionary Biologist
It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.
The eminent Kant scholar Lewis Beck used to say that anyone who could believe in God could believe in anything. To appeal to an omnipotent deity is to allow that at any moment the regularities of nature may be ruptured, that Miracles may happen. Professor Richard Lewontin Evolutionary Biologist
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buffalo
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The Pontifical Academy of Science is actually the Pontifical Academy of Atheists. Look who is on the roster.
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buffalo
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How would one do that? The best we can do is a historical narrative, which we have. One time events cannot be empirically proven by science.
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buffalo
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You think the colophon phrases do not tie to the timeline? What do you mean by interpretation?
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buffalo
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Simply design vs complex specified design?
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buffalo
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There are other studies on the efficacy of prayer. In fact many doctors are now encouraging it. Do I need to show the studies?
Our Lady always exhorts us to pray.
Quantum physics thinks the universe is porous and God may operate in the pores. I ask, what about the quantum effects of prayer. The double slit experiment shows the conscious observer can effect the outcome. When we stand at the side of the pond, our consciousness determines whether the photon reflects off the water or the bottom.
Prayer may have a similar effect. I wonder what would happen if the entire world sincerely got on its knees and prayed.
Our Lady always exhorts us to pray.
Quantum physics thinks the universe is porous and God may operate in the pores. I ask, what about the quantum effects of prayer. The double slit experiment shows the conscious observer can effect the outcome. When we stand at the side of the pond, our consciousness determines whether the photon reflects off the water or the bottom.
Prayer may have a similar effect. I wonder what would happen if the entire world sincerely got on its knees and prayed.
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Rau
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I take it you wish to refrain from expressing a position on the matter of the time duration over which life has existed on earth.
Most species become extinct - yes, but not entirely in the last few thousand years as Glark contends.
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rossum
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I mean that different scholars have different ideas about the meaning of the text. I am sure you have noticed that Christians differ about the correct interpretation of the Bible. The colophons are no different.
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rossum
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If it is neither complex nor specified then either chance or necessity is also a possible cause, not design. Dr. Dembski only allows for design once chance and necessity have both been eliminated as a cause.
In effect, you are denying the design (= creation by God) of the bulk of Mount Rushmore. The designed part was designed by humans.
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Rau
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I take it you wish to refrain from expressing a position on the matter of the time duration over which life has existed on earth.
Most species become extinct - yes, but not all creation and extinction events occurred in the last few thousand years as Glark contends.
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Glark
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… and the belief system of atheists is evolution. So when the Vatican consults the PAS, it is consulting the godless and their godless explanations for the origins of life.
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Glark
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As an scientific experiment, I suggest that the entire world sincerely gets on its knees and prays that Glark gets a brand new Porsche 911 for Christmas (white, please). Let’s see what happens.
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