Does Darwin's theory of evolution contradict Catholicsm?

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Comparing evolution to this aspect of astronomy is a fallacy - one is an untestable theory and the other is a demonstrable scientific fact.
But had you lived prior to that fact being uncovered, you would have asserted this literal reading of the bible. Is that right? So scientific discovery - should it be sufficiently compelling - is sufficient to cause one to abandon a literal reading.
 
How can you reconcile your non-literal interpretation of Genesis with Pope Pius XII’s Humani Generis teaching that prohibits Catholics from accepting polygenism?
Easy. We don’t have any scientific explanation for how all humans come from only 2 parents. But so it is. This has no bearing on the scientific evidence that leads us to conclude that life existed on earth for more than the 5778 years you insist is the upper limit. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Darwinism is an attempt to explain the mechanism of that process of evolution. They then go about looking for evidence that supports Darwinism.
What must irritate you immensely is that there is just so damn much of it 🤣
 
How can you reconcile your non-literal interpretation of Genesis with Pope Pius XII’s Humani Generis teaching that prohibits Catholics from accepting polygenism?
Not a difficult thing to do. Humani Generis was carefully worded, as we can read in your next post:
For the faithful cannot embrace that opinion which maintains that either after Adam there existed on this earth true men who did not take their origin through natural generation from him as from the first parent of all, (emphasis added)
A true man such as Adam has a human body with a human soul infused by God. A living human body without the soul is not a “true man” as mentioned in Humani Generis. Evolution tells us that there was a large population of these “untrue men” alongside Adam and Eve.

All living humans are true men because they have been given a soul and are descended from Adam and Eve as is required theologically. They are also descended from those “untrue men” living at the same time who did not have souls but did have compatible DNA – adding a soul does not change DNA.

You may not agree with this interpretation, but there are other Catholics who do.

rossum
 
I’m pretty sure God is not responsible for mendacious, junk science.
It occurs to me you could do Christianity a service by studying this “junk science” and uncovering the flaws. Start with carbon dating as that is so fundamental to the “junk”. If you can find where they went wrong on that…well, that’s a Nobel prize for sure…🤣
 
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Glark’s fragile, egg-shell mind must have been very tired - or was it the LSD?
 
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Come back in a billions years and they will still be unchanged - because God made creatures “according to thier kinds” - meaning, creatures don’t evolve beyond their “kinds”.
All of them 5778 years ago?
 
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So this one little chicken size fossil proves birds were once dinosaurs ?
I think you’re approaching it from the wrong end. The idea is to first of all assume evolution is a fact, then you look for the “evidence”. Try this approach and the fossil record will reveal the truth (which you already know is evolution) to you and one little chicken size fossil becomes a missing link.
Huge dinosaur-----------------------------punctuated equilibrium----------------chicken size fossil
 
Glark’s fragile, egg-shell mind must have been very tired - or was it the LSD?
Just ‘tired’, I’m sure. We’ve all done it before… 👍

(Still, worth a chuckle to see ya quote yourself and blame the quote on someone else!) 😉
 
So it’s a mere coincidence that between 99.999-100% of evolutionary biologists are atheists? And you see no link between ToE and atheism? If that is so, why did William Provine describe evolution as “the greatest engine of atheism ever invented”?

Has it ever occurred to you that, atheists, having rejected Divine Creation as an option for explaining where life on earth came from, have virtually no other choice but to believe that life as we know it evolved from little bugs over billions of years. That is their STARTING POINT; their a priori position (an idea that has been around since at least 650 BC and is otherwise known as the general theory of evolution). This starting point has NOTHING to do with “evidence” (except that life exists). Darwinism is an attempt to explain the mechanism of that process of evolution. They then go about looking for evidence that supports Darwinism.
You have started your education of evolution, it appears, from the premise that Darwinism was ‘invented’ to promote atheism. Therein lies your problem. Examine the evidence, all of it, then come to a tentative conclusion. You’re the one starting with a conclusion and cherry picking data to support it, and you’re projecting the tendency to do so onto all people working in the sciences!

Furthermore, if someone can provide a theory that better fits the evidence, it will replace the theory of evolution. So far… Nothing has come close.

Again, I’d like to bow out, please. You are not going to convince me with your conspiracy theories. And I am quite certain you will not be swayed by anything I present.
 
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Huge dinosaur-----------------------------punctuated equilibrium----------------chicken size fossil
Not quite:
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medium-sized proto-dinosaur ---+--- huge dinosaur
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                               +--- small dinosaur --- bird
Evolution allows for branches in trees of descent. Birds are not direct descendants of the large dinosaurs.

rossum
 
I went a-digging one day and I dug up the skeleton of a dog. I dug deeper and discovered the skeleton of a cat. I concluded that the dog must have evolved from the cat.
The tragedy is that fallacious foolishness like this gets licked-up by the anti-evolution camp because it reinforces their emotional attachment to their emotional idea…

I’ve yet to see a non-evolved creationist explanation for Sue the T-Rex that wasn’t jaw-dropping crazy… (my favorite being “it’s just rocks that LOOK like a skeleton…”)

The truth of the matter is that a Catholic is free to believe in evolution as the mechanism by which God brought forth life (as opposed to snapping His fingers, or some other assumption).

A God that creates evolving life is no less “all-mighty” and worthy of our worship than a God that snaps His fingers.
 
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Techno2000:
Huge dinosaur-----------------------------punctuated equilibrium----------------chicken size fossil
Not quite:
Code:
medium-sized proto-dinosaur ---+--- huge dinosaur
                               |
                               +--- small dinosaur --- bird
Evolution allows for branches in trees of descent. Birds are not direct descendants of the large dinosaurs.

rossum

Dinosaurs ‘shrank’ regularly to become birds
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/28563682
 
Dinosaurs ‘shrank’ regularly to become birds

http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/28563682
Yes. Over time dinosaurs evolved to different sizes. Some evolved to a larger size, like Apatosaurs. Some stayed at around the same size as the proto-dinosaurs, like many Dromeosaurs and others evolved to smaller sizes, like Archaeopteryx.

Just like mammals. The original proto-mammals were rat sized to domestic cat sized. Some evolved to smaller sizes: voles. Some stayed at about the same size: rabbits, and some evolved to larger sizes: elephants.

rossum
 
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Techno2000:
Dinosaurs ‘shrank’ regularly to become birds

http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/28563682
Yes. Over time dinosaurs evolved to different sizes. Some evolved to a larger size, like Apatosaurs. Some stayed at around the same size as the proto-dinosaurs, like many Dromeosaurs and others evolved to smaller sizes, like Archaeopteryx.

Just like mammals. The original proto-mammals were rat sized to domestic cat sized. Some evolved to smaller sizes: voles. Some stayed at about the same size: rabbits, and some evolved to larger sizes: elephants.

rossum
If these humongous creatures have been gradually morphing down to the size of a chicken for millions and millions of years then there should be tons of fossils showing every stage of their development.And this goes for all the animal we see today also.
 
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Techno2000:
Huge dinosaur-----------------------------punctuated equilibrium----------------chicken size fossil
Not quite:
Code:
medium-sized proto-dinosaur ---+--- huge dinosaur
                               |
                               +--- small dinosaur --- bird
Evolution allows for branches in trees of descent. Birds are not direct descendants of the large dinosaurs.

rossum
Do you think dinosaurs would have found birds to be tasty ?
 
Your answers show that you are basically acting like a troll as you refuse to apologize or even acknowledge anything you did was wrong and I will not be discussing this issue with you anymore until you repent. You have consistently proven to be uncharitable, and slandering to others who do not share your views on Evolution.I think it is you who is interacting with your own strawman. And you are being overly dismissive of anything anyone says which is obvious to anyone who reads what you have written.
 
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We do have a fair number of fossils, actually.

But keep in mind that fossilization itself is rare. Most bones are destroyed, not fossilized.
 
Your answers show that you are basically acting like a troll as you refuse to apologize or even acknowledge anything you did was wrong and I will not be discussing this issue with you anymore until you repent. You have consistently proven to be uncharitable, and slandering to others who do not share your views on Evolution.I think it is you who is interacting with your own strawman. And you are being overly dismissive of anything anyone says which is obvious to anyone who reads what you have written.
Slander…not really ,Glark is my Hero.
 
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