Does Eastern Churches Have a Valid Sacraments?

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I have read a SSPX article about Vatican II accusing it to be contradict with church teaching on Eastern Separated christians.
Pope Gregory XVI: It is necessary that the Church throughout the world be united and cleave to the center of Catholic unity and ecclesiastical communion, so that whoever dares to depart from the unity of Peter might understand that he no longer shares in the divine mystery.” St. Jerome adds: “Whoever eats the lamb outside of this house is unholy. Those who were not in the ark of Noah perished in the flood.” ( Commissum Divinitus, 11)
Pope Pius VIII: Against these experienced sophists the people must be taught that the profession of the Catholic faith is uniquely true, as the apostle proclaims: one Lord, one faith, one baptism.[4] Jerome used to say it this way: he who eats the lamb outside this house will perish as did those during the flood who were not with Noah in the ark.[5] Indeed, no other name than the name of Jesus is given to men, by which they may be saved.[6] He who believes shall be saved; he who does not believe shall be condemned. (Traditi Humilitati , 4)
Pope Pius IX: He who deserts the Church will vainly believe that he is in the Church;”whoever eats of the lamb and is not a member of the Church, has profaned;” “Peter, who lives and presides in his own Chair, proffers the truth of faith to those seeking it; “Peter, who lives up to this time and always lives, exercises jurisdiction in his successors. (Amantissimus, 3)
while Vatican II says They have Valid Sacraments (Except Baptism) and can recieve communion in Catholic Church!!
" Hence, through the celebration of the Holy Eucharist in each of these churches, the Church of God is built up and grows in stature(36) and through concelebration, their communion with one another is made manifest." (UNITATIS REDINTEGRATIO, 14)
“Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, and visible elements too. All of these, which come from Christ and lead back to Christ, belong by right to the one Church of Christ. The brethren divided from us also use many liturgical actions of the Christian religion. These most certainly can truly engender a life of grace in ways that vary according to the condition of each Church or Community. These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation. It follows that the separated Churches(23) and Communities as such, though we believe them to be deficient in some respects, have been by no means deprived of significance and importance in the mystery of salvation. For the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as means of salvation which derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Church.” (UNITATIS REDINTEGRATIO, 3)
Can any one solve this? I am a EX-SEDEVECANTIST
 
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From Unitatis Reintegratio, a document of Vatican II

Nevertheless, our separated brethren, whether considered as individuals or as Communities and Churches, are not blessed with that unity which Jesus Christ wished to bestow on all those who through Him were born again into one body, and with Him quickened to newness of life - that unity which the Holy Scriptures and the ancient Tradition of the Church proclaim. For it is only through Christ’s Catholic Church, which is “the all-embracing means of salvation,” that they can benefit fully from the means of salvation. We believe that Our Lord entrusted all the blessings of the New Covenant to the apostolic college alone, of which Peter is the head, in order to establish the one Body of Christ on earth to which all should be fully incorporated who belong in any way to the people of God. This people of God, though still in its members liable to sin, is ever growing in Christ during its pilgrimage on earth, and is guided by God’s gentle wisdom, according to His hidden designs, until it shall happily arrive at the fullness of eternal glory in the heavenly Jerusalem.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_...ecree_19641121_unitatis-redintegratio_en.html
 
The Divine Law of God doesn’t change. What was wrong yesterday is still wrong today. However in our relations with other people and in the discipline of the Church sometimes we need to take some time and review the situation. In many ways the situation has changed. As the situation changes then our approach needs to change in order for us to be more effective. The ecumenism of the Catholic Church is a subset of evangelization. If the only way we can relate to other people is to curse at them and hurl anathemas at them they will avoid us when they see us. We talk to the people. We listen to them. We treat them with respect. So far what this has brought about is a document in which the Assyrian Church of the East recognizes along with us that Mary is the Mother of God. The Christological differences between the Oriental Orthodox and the the Catholic Church have been resolved as a difference in semantics. We now have the Anglican ordinariate. The purpose of all this is to provide a vehicle that is conducive for conversion and unity within the Catholic Church.
 
Yes the Eastern churches do have valid sacraments. Indeed, the Catholic Church recognises them has having valid Apostolic Succession. They two are linked.
 
Not true. The Catholic Church recognizes the apostolic succession and validity of the sacraments of the Assyrian Church of the East. Did you read the above statement out by the Vatican on Eucharistic sharing between the Chaldean Catholic Church and the Assyrian Church of the East?

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The Assyrian Church of the East does have a valid consecration. I forget the title of the document that ruled in its favor, but I believe then-Cardinal Ratzinger was (head of the CDF at that time) was the one who signed off on it.

The Anaphora of Addai and Mari may not have an explicit Institution Narrative, but the consecration is there nonetheless.
 
i think if it is my opinion, you can Reluctance me in this rudeness, but if you have read the contradict of that with the quotes you will know that i stand with the old church vision
 
FaresMagnus said:
I have read a SSPX article about Vatican II accusing it to be contradict with church teaching on Eastern Separated christians.
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Well, is it SSPX or Catholic Church that is infallible?

That should not be a hard question.
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Can any one solve this?
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What is there to be solved?

The Popes that have been cited do not talk about validity of sacraments. You might note that none of the cited parts mentions the word “valid”.

For that matter, it is well known that schism does not invalidate sacraments. See, for example, St. Thomas Aquinas, “Summa Theologica” Third Part, Question 82, Article 7 (Summa Theologica): “Some have contended that heretics, schismatics, and the excommunicate, who are outside the pale of the Church, cannot perform this sacrament. But herein they are deceived,”, " And since the consecration of the Eucharist is an act which follows the power of order, such persons as are separated from the Church by heresy, schism, or excommunication, can indeed consecrate the Eucharist, which on being consecrated by them contains Christ’s true body and blood; but they act wrongly, and sin by doing so; and in consequence they do not receive the fruit of the sacrifice, which is a spiritual sacrifice.".

So, Eastern Orthodox have valid Eucharist.

For that matter, it does look strange for members or supporters of SSPX to express such opinions, given how they seem to be willing to get so close to the brink of a schism… Instead, one would expect people with such views to go out of their way in guessing Pope’s wishes… Maybe you misinterpreted the article…?

Anyway, I’d say that, given that you say you are recovering from sedevacantism, you definitely should stay far away from SSPX.
 
I think it preferable to follow what the Holy See teaches rather than a group in an irregular canonical position with the Church, e.g. SSPX. I do believe it is a mistake to believe that the state of the Church 10th October 1962 was a state in which She had been since the apostles and that nothing had ever changed.

Trust in Christ Our Lord who promised us Hell would never prevail against the Church.
 
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