Does Enlightenment help you understand God better?

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I was thinking about how Catholics can benefit from Buddhism, and I thought that there’s plenty of things that you can learn from another group. God created us all from His love, and therefore, we all have good in us. Truth is universal, and therefore it can be expressed in many ways. If God wills you to be put in a path to serve a purpose for a greater good, He will allow you to listen to other people in order to understand what it means to be here. When you lost confusion and anxiety inside of you, you are in a state of clarity to understand things as they are, and that includes what Jesus Christ did for you.
 
I will be keeping tabs on this thread, just because I would be willing to wager hard money that someone is going to reply, losing their mind over trying to connect Buddhism to Catholicism and completely misunderstanding the posters view point.
 
There is a lot in Buddhism that is admirable, to be sure. Buddha was a great moral teacher, he may well be in Heaven now. However, there are certain aspects of Buddhist belief that conflict with Catholic teaching, reincarnation, for example.

But it’s always helpful to learn about other faiths. God’s wisdom is everywhere.
 
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Enlightenment in Buddhism happens over several stages, and different traditions use slightly different maps and names/numbers for them.

The first stage of enlightenment is called stream entry in the early Buddhist texts, and the first bodhisattva bhumi in Mahayana-Buddhism. All schools seem to agree that it involves supramundane insight into to how the five aggregates that make up human experience lack self/substance, in addition to highly developed moral conduct in thought and deed, no doubt about the right way to practice and finally, a lack of exaggerated belief in the efficacy of rites and rituals.

So, enlightenment is not primarily an experience in Buddhism, but a milestone along the path. A point of no return, where a person has been transformed to the extent that the final stage of enlightenment has become inevitable.

If what we call stream entry / first Bodhisattva Bhumi should happen to a Catholic, it would impact that person’s belief in God. The view of God as unchanging, self-existing, utterly simple and yet cause of a multiplicity of effects would not be compatible with the insight they would have had, but versions of theism such as Process Theology would still be viable. Nor would it be acceptable to kill insects or animals, or use them for experiments, as the Catechism of the Catholic Church allows, and all the violence the OT attributes to God would have to be firmly rejected. Views about how the eucharist is transformed into the body and blood of Christ would have to change, or simply be left as a mystery as it is in Eastern Orthodoxy. Theories of atonement would radically change, etc.

This is just off the top of my head. I am not sure it is actually possible to remain a believing Catholic after such a transformation. Certainly not an orthodox Catholic.
 
I can lose confusion and anxiety just fine as a Catholic meditating on and contemplating Jesus Christ without needing to go practice a non-Catholic religion in order to do so.

Also the whole “Truth is universal and it can be expressed in many ways” stuff you’re posting sounds like Universalism which is against the teachings of the church.

If I need to learn from Buddhists, I can simply read the works of Thomas Merton, a Catholic who specialized in studying this area.
 
But it’s always helpful to learn about other faiths. God’s wisdom is everywhere.
Learning ABOUT other faiths is fine. The OP seems to be advocating actually practicing the other faith though, or claiming the two faiths can be practiced together, which is something else again.
 
Here is a Catholic Answers article on Mindfulness Meditation, which is a bit of a westernized form of Buddhist meditation.


Is there some truth and good in other traditions? Yes. But let’s not think we need to go around our fists to get to our thumbs and risk getting lost. The first name for Christianity we know of was “The Way.” I’ve found what’s lost on many is that Christianity isn’t just a set of rules and morals and saying Jesus’ name; Christianity is (and should be) about transformation and even, though we don’t use the word much in the west, our own form (and true form) of enlightenment.

Christianity has mystic traditions. It has deep prayer traditions. We have concepts of seeking divinization/theosis through prayer. We have examples like the desert fathers.

Many Christians would do well to rediscover our ancient traditions on how to seek communion with a personal God. If we can learn anything from Buddhism, perhaps it can be to remind ourselves of the ancient prayer traditions of our own faith.
 
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No, it doesn’t. There is only one Truth and that is Jesus Christ. There is only one path to that Truth, and that is the one, holy, Catholic, and apostolic Church.

Continuing to pretend that isn’t the case endangers the souls of those outside of the Church.
 
I think there is more “enlightenment” one can achieve by reading the writings of the Bible and of the Saints.

There is over a lifetime worth of good, Catholic readings out there from across the millennia (not the mention the good, orthodox writers right now)

God Bless
 
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