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mcq72
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Yes, we know a symbol does not represent a symbol…
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Wannano
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Isn’t transubstantiation the transfiguration of His Eucharist?susanlo:
I think the point of the transfiguration was to reveal who Jesus really was. He didnt “change” but always was like that, in the Spiritual world’s eys!
We dont need transfiguration of His Eucharist. We already believe it at His word.
Do you see that Jesus was already God, but that was unnoticed by carnal senses?
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rcwitness
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No. Transfiguration was an appearance. Transubstantiation is a vhange in what it truly is, apart from appearance.rcwitness:
Isn’t transubstantiation the transfiguration of His Eucharist?susanlo:
I think the point of the transfiguration was to reveal who Jesus really was. He didnt “change” but always was like that, in the Spiritual world’s eys!
We dont need transfiguration of His Eucharist. We already believe it at His word.
Do you see that Jesus was already God, but that was unnoticed by carnal senses?
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Wannano
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I am not understanding why the priest and your Mother had to be in private. If you had been able to take her to church you would have been able to witness her receiving.susanlo:
So I was at my mothers house Easter Sunday …she is 90…whole family was there…my moms priest (Catholic)came by to minister communion to my mother…priest is very friendly…we chat a bit…see him often…knows our names…as he took my mother aside (to a more private room) to give her communion, I longed to go with them (I was unable to attend my church service), even for all of us to participate, but alas the division, though my mom and i still fellowship with scripture reading and prayer on Sundays…tough spot for the priest to be in…I wonder if he longs for more unity also
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Wannano
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Is there any other incidence of Transubstantiation that takes place in our world other than in your Eucharist?Wannano:
No. Transfiguration was an appearance. Transubstantiation is a vhange in what it truly is, apart from appearance.rcwitness:
Isn’t transubstantiation the transfiguration of His Eucharist?susanlo:
I think the point of the transfiguration was to reveal who Jesus really was. He didnt “change” but always was like that, in the Spiritual world’s eys!
We dont need transfiguration of His Eucharist. We already believe it at His word.
Do you see that Jesus was already God, but that was unnoticed by carnal senses?
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rcwitness
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The Word became fleshrcwitness:
Is there any other incidence of Transubstantiation that takes place in our world other than in your Eucharist?Wannano:
No. Transfiguration was an appearance. Transubstantiation is a vhange in what it truly is, apart from appearance.rcwitness:
Isn’t transubstantiation the transfiguration of His Eucharist?susanlo:
I think the point of the transfiguration was to reveal who Jesus really was. He didnt “change” but always was like that, in the Spiritual world’s eys!
We dont need transfiguration of His Eucharist. We already believe it at His word.
Do you see that Jesus was already God, but that was unnoticed by carnal senses?
Could you detect with science that Jesus was God?
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Wannano
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No I understand that and accept it. It was a one time happening in history. I am asking about ongoing practice happening now in 2018.Wannano:
The Word became fleshrcwitness:
Is there any other incidence of Transubstantiation that takes place in our world other than in your Eucharist?Wannano:
No. Transfiguration was an appearance. Transubstantiation is a vhange in what it truly is, apart from appearance.rcwitness:
Isn’t transubstantiation the transfiguration of His Eucharist?susanlo:
I think the point of the transfiguration was to reveal who Jesus really was. He didnt “change” but always was like that, in the Spiritual world’s eys!
We dont need transfiguration of His Eucharist. We already believe it at His word.
Do you see that Jesus was already God, but that was unnoticed by carnal senses?
Could you detect with science that Jesus was God?
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rcwitness
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Actually you could refute my example by saying science could have detected a virgin conceiving.
But im not sure how the Virgin conceived…
But im not sure how the Virgin conceived…
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susanlo
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Well, Jesus’ miracles were seen and perceived by those around Him. Merely touching the fringe of His garment allowed a woman to be healed. We don’t know if Jesus has the DNA of man or if he has different DNA. His appearance was that of a typical man, but what He was capable of doing far surpasses what any mere man could do.
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rcwitness
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Thats two different things. His moracles, and the unoticed fact that He was God became flesh.
You know there have been Eucharistic miracles, right? Have you read about any of them?
You know there have been Eucharistic miracles, right? Have you read about any of them?
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susanlo
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Yes, I read a book about them. It took 600-700 years for the first to be recorded. Sometimes there was a visible change, and other times there were various things that occurred including the wafer floating away or visions happening.
17 times there was a change in chemical substance and appearance.
17 times there was a change in chemical substance and appearance.
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rcwitness
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You mean aside from St Luke’s record of the first instance? 
And what do you make of those claims?
And what do you make of those claims?
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mcq72
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Not sure…perhaps also to hear confession, though he says"to give her communion"…I could ask also but feel restrained, by the separate understandings/rules.
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rcwitness
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From what you say, there should be no reason to be private. You should ask your mother.
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mcq72
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Of course Spirit/spirit can not be detected by senses, but flesh and blood can.
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mcq72
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Yes, perhaps they have talked about it, and me being protestant ends it I would think…i mean my mom might not feel comfortable either if i participated with different understanding, and would not want to put priest on the spot either, to bend the rules
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rcwitness
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Unless it is “hidden” from our senses so that it is not a sign of proof, but an act of faith and for faith.rcwitness:
Of course Spirit/spirit can not be detected by senses, but flesh and blood can.
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Wannano
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You missed my question.
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rcwitness
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About other examples of Transubstantiation?
No, I think its quite unique. The incarnation is the closest thing i can think of. But its still different.
No, I think its quite unique. The incarnation is the closest thing i can think of. But its still different.
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Wannano
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Thanks. Did you see the Paul movie yet?
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