Does God call people to be separate from Catholic Eucharist

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Aside from Transubstantiation of Communion, do you believe the Word of God became flesh and blood?

Then how do you say you dont worship His body and blood?
well…thank you… have to think…but i think I said it correctly before. We worship Him, fully God and fully man. I do not worship His spilled blood but Him, just as I do not worship a clip of His hair or a piece of His torn off skin etc.

Don’t think I worship a human body though, which He certainly took on, yet we worship “Him”, because He is God. I may reverence the feet that once walked the Holy Land, for our sake, flesh that He took on, but wouldn’t say I worship His feet (though may I be graced to fall at His feet, in tears, with worship).
 
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Well, He did incarnate, cause we (the apostles/disciples) saw it, then leave (bodily), cause we (the apostles /disciples) saw it. All faith in what we see, and see by faith…understand some claim to see one more reality (in the elements), which others do not, and is the division worth it, not seeing an effectual difference?
Those who don’t see it with the eyes of faith of course can never know it’s efficacy. It’s true, not many Catholics have discerned it’s efficacy in their lives either but it isn’t easily noticed in the routine of secular life. Religious OTOH, who are suffering missionary hardships, and actively participating in Christ’s life, and are offering the love of Christ to others, know they need Christ in the Eucharist so their sacrifice may be redemptive.
 
Don’t think I worship a human body though, which He certainly took on, yet we worship “Him”, because He is God. I may reverence the feet that once walked the Holy Land, for our sake, flesh that He took on, but wouldn’t say I worship His feet (though may I be graced to fall at His feet, in tears, with worship).
mcq72, to me this projects a dualism on Jesus. To me, His body is Him. His feet is Him. His blood is Him. His body, all of His body is God.
 
Yes.
“The bread which I shall give for the life of the world, is my flesh.”

He connected the Word of God with His actual flesh and blood, since His flesh and blood was completely obedient to the Word of God!

This is a deep mystery!! How did flesh and blood do everything the Spirit willed??? Its amazing!
 
Don’t think I worship a human body though, which He certainly took on, yet we worship “Him”, because He is God. I may reverence the feet that once walked the Holy Land, for our sake, flesh that He took on, but wouldn’t say I worship His feet (though may I be graced to fall at His feet, in tears, with worship.
Are His feet not part of His body?

Why do you separate them?

We worship God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) when we worship His Body.

How is Jesus God??? Is He only God in His Spirit? If you have the Holy Spirit, can i worship God through you? How is it ok to worship Jesus, but not His body? How are we able to do so? How are you able to separate what God has made one?
 
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Don’t think I worship a human body though, which He certainly took on, yet we worship “Him”, because He is God. I may reverence the feet that once walked the Holy Land, for our sake, flesh that He took on, but wouldn’t say I worship His feet (though may I be graced to fall at His feet, in tears, with worship.
Are His feet not part of His body?

Why do you separate them?

We worship God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) when we worship His Body.

How is Jesus God??? Is He only God in His Spirit? If you have the Holy Spirit, can i worship God through you? How is it ok to worship Jesus, but not His body? How are we able to do so? How are you able to separate what God has made one?
Rc, you ask so any questions at one time that you make my head spin. It seems to be caused by Mass confusion!

I understand that in the consecrated Host you believe Jesus is present in His physical body. Are his feet not part of His body? Can you see his feet when observing the Host? Why do you separate them?
 
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Don’t think I worship a human body though, which He certainly took on, yet we worship “Him”, because He is God. I may reverence the feet that once walked the Holy Land, for our sake, flesh that He took on, but wouldn’t say I worship His feet (though may I be graced to fall at His feet, in tears, with worship.
Are His feet not part of His body?

Why do you separate them?

We worship God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) when we worship His Body.

How is Jesus God??? Is He only God in His Spirit? If you have the Holy Spirit, can i worship God through you? How is it ok to worship Jesus, but not His body? How are we able to do so? How are you able to separate what God has made one?
Rc, you ask so any questions at one time that you make my head spin. It seems to be caused by Mass confusion!

I understand that in the consecrated Host you believe Jesus is present in His physical body. Are his feet not part of His body? Can you see his feet when observing the Host? Why do you separate them?
The Eucharist is His substance, not operating organs and extremities. More like His dna, where He exists fully in all of it. Break it in two, and He is fully there in both pieces. The host is broken, yet He is fully divided.

Imagine a mother’s love for a first born. When she has another child, is her love divided in half or mutiplied by two?
 
Eeks…you are right , other communions must seem foreign…I can only say by your description of these foreign foods your past tastes have hindered you from appreciating them for what they are (but not from what they are not). Some foods have to grow on you then.
The comparison on the foods is to demonstrate that there’s a very distinct flavor/value to the Eucharist celebrated by Catholics vs. non-Catholics. While food and other experiences can be conceptualized, adopted, and eventually become accustomed to Christ’s Command to Eat His Flesh/Body and drink His Blood is not an acquired taste/experience.

It does not fall under the “politically correctness” nor does it become more palatable with time.

We either choose to reject Christ Body and Blood and believe it is only a symbol or we accept that, as He Stated, it is what it is: “this is my Body” and “this is my Blood.”

Maran atha!

Angel
 
No, Jesus and His Apostles would not believe they are eating and drinking a symbol.

That’s a concept inspired by men who refuse to take Jesus at His Word and the Apostles at their Teaching.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
We receive the elements to remember by commanded ritual that which we give thanks for.
Wow… quite circular… and when studied in depth, empty. So Jesus Commanded that an empty symbol be Commemorated and His Apostles mistook His Teaching and run with a Belief that they actually ate and drank His Body and Blood; coincidentally, those who rejected Christianity were quickly to point out that they were a bunch of cannibals and the Christian apology (defense) was remaining silent and letting them believe they were cannibals–couldn’t a little “show” and “tell” fix that misconception? (’…hey, people it’s just a symbol, chill out!’).

Maran atha!

Angel
 
The problem is that you want those who believe differently than you to believe in a symbol which Christ did not Ordained.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
Don’t think I worship a human body though, which He certainly took on, yet we worship “Him”, because He is God. I may reverence the feet that once walked the Holy Land, for our sake, flesh that He took on, but wouldn’t say I worship His feet (though may I be graced to fall at His feet, in tears, with worship).
Yet, how do you separate Jesus from Jesus?

Did Elizabeth exclaimed, ‘in the baby in your womb is my Lord;’ rather, did she not exclaimed, ‘how is it that the mother of my Lord, would visit me?’ (paraphrased)

Maran atha!

Angel
 
mcq72, to me this projects a dualism on Jesus. To me, His body is Him. His feet is Him. His blood is Him. His body, all of His body is God.
…a notion held by the Apostle St. Paul: One Body: Church with Christ as her head: One Unit not a bunch of parts… it is the reason why he called it a Mystery!

Maran atha!

Angel
 
…you’ve just confused all of the Jehovah Witnesses… they swear that God’s Divinity can be proven by a lack of “body.”

Maran atha!

Angel
 
We receive the elements to remember by commanded ritual that which we give thanks for.
So basically God is putting on a deceptive ‘show’ for us humans; a theatrical performance of smoke and mirrors; instituted and designed so that God can ‘feed’ off of our ‘thanks’ to him. That is called Paganism (anything which outside of the ‘authentic Christianity’).

John 3:16 says that God gives down to us so we can believe. In all other religions, the deity needs to feed off of us (which makes it a pet).

In many places, the OT demonstrates mankind’s ‘natural religion’ and his deity in great detail. Yet it also type-shadows the ‘True religion’ which is to come. I myself can certainly NOT discern which is which on my own, regardless though, basic human reason tells us that a shadow of a thing is NOT the thing itself. So why would I attempt to do such thing?

Regardless, history demonstrates that countless apostate men have fallen into the temptation of making shadows into actual things; and likewise, real things into shadows. This particular ‘path’ to apostasy is accomplished through men’s own imaginations.

The apostate’s own imagination becomes God himslef. He may loudly praise Jesus day and night, but it’s merely a phantom - a Jesus made by his imagination, resulting in a ‘Christianity’ made by his imagination. He therefore is praising no one but his own imagination.

The God of his imagination becomes like any other pagan god; it needs to be fed. But since this god lives in his own imagination, it is also fed and kept alive by the mans imagination; therefore, his Jesus can only live if it is fed by has ‘mental powers’ (which in reality are demonic catchphrases and slogans giving him false assurance in his false Christianity).

So naturally since his salvation lives in nis own imagination, he wants to keep it there. And he wants to advocate and protect the rights of others to follow his way of salvation.

But that old stumbling block is still there - the priesthood and liturgy who feed people LITERALLY; where God is in REALITY. He must continously discredit them, because any THOUGHT of their legitimacy entering into his MIND, automatically wars against the lord of his salvation - his own imagination.
 
So basically God is putting on a deceptive ‘show’ for us humans; a theatrical performance of smoke and mirrors; instituted and designed so that God can ‘feed’ off of our ‘thanks’ to him. That is called Paganism (anything which outside of the ‘authentic Christianity’)
Did this come out of a Chick publication? I hope not.
 
mcq72, to me this projects a dualism on Jesus. To me, His body is Him. His feet is Him. His blood is Him. His body, all of His body is God.
And how did Jesus refer to tthe part of Him that would be destroyed?

Can you destroy divinity ?
 
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