Does God call people to be separate from Catholic Eucharist

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Actually no, I was asserting that human understanding of God is that; a human understanding.
 
Alex337 said:
I’ve departed Catholic doctrine, not Christian.
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You may not realize it now, but you have departed from Christianity.
Alex337 said:
Actually no, I was asserting that human understanding of God is that; a human understanding.
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Yes. This is a departure from Christianity.

Denying that the Scriptures are inspired and inerrant is a departure from Christianity.
 
Again, and slowly this time: I. Said. Scripture. Can. Be. Flawed. Through. Translation. So. Have. You.

Savvy?
 
Alex337 said:
Again, and slowly this time: I. Said. Scripture. Can. Be. Flawed. Through. Translation. So. Have. You.
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Denial that the Scriptures are inspired and inerrant constitutes a departure from the Christian faith.

No, I do not agree with you that erroneous translations sully the divine written revelation of God in any way.

Translations may be flawed, but the Word of God can never be flawed. You seem to be a Humanist, and have embraced Humanism as a religion. You have had a personal emotional experience that makes you feel close to God. You have found a community that will support your religious views.
 
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So you believe incorrect translations that change the meaning of the text are true? So that Bible that was printed that said “Thou shalt murder” is a valid interpretation of God’s word?

And I continue to be Christian.
 
Alex337 said:
So you believe incorrect translations that change the meaning of the text are true?
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It is true that there are incorrect translations that change the meaning of the inspired and inerrant text.
Alex337 said:
And I continue to be Christian.
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I am sure, as a Humanist, you will be whatever you believe yourself to be, and continue to be. This is your subjective assessment. If you decide what you believe about yourself is “christian”, no one can take this belief away from you, erroneous though it may be.

Your beliefs are inconsistent with Christianity. That is an objective assessment.
 
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Alex337:
So you believe incorrect translations that change the meaning of the text are true?
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It is true that there are incorrect translations that change the meaning of the inspired and inerrant text.
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So are those ones that tell us to murder still correct? Are they still the word of God telling us thou shalt murder?
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Alex337:
And I continue to be Christian.
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I am sure, as a Humanist, you will be whatever you believe yourself to be, and continue to be. This is your subjective assessment. If you decide what you believe about yourself is “christian”, no one can take this belief away from you, erroneous though it may be.

Your beliefs are inconsistent with Christianity. That is an objective assessment.
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Given that I have now spoken with my former priest, the Catholic one, and even they say I’m still Christian after chatting with me about where I stand I think you’re wrong.
 
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Can’t we have a bit of that godly understanding to?
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I think then we would risk presumption. Maybe some of our understanding is so inspired, but even then our human understanding needs to fit it in to the rest of our life.
 
Alex337 said:
I think then we would risk presumption. Maybe some of our understanding is so inspired, but even then our human understanding needs to fit it in to the rest of our life.
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I know what you mean. Since our understanding is earthly and if anything it is lifted up. One can keep their feet on the ground. I know no one can have the kind of understanding Jesus had. His came from heaven and touched the ground.
 
Intetezting…they at odds are they not…just saw that John Bunyan wrote a tract against some quaker beliefs and practices…and i like bunyan, and Pilgrims Progress book.
 
guanophore said:
This is a mistake. Protestants, by definition, have criticisms of the Catholic faith. You have made arrangements for your daughter to depart from the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.
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I certainly have not. I sent her to a non-denominational Christian camp, where there is encouragement of faith in Jesus. Remember that Protestants also share in much Catholic faith. But the “preaching” is very “neutral” and it is an environment which encourages faith and prayer.
It is quite a jump to go from judging the veracity of a spiritual experience by feelings and experiences to saying that a person does not care about them at all. There is a reason that we are told not to make decisions solely based upon our feelings and experiences. When they are relied upon in contradiction to what God has already revealed to mankind, they are likely to lead one astray.
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Yes, @Alex337 uses dramatic exaggerations to justify himself and attempt to manipulate others.
There may be some inaccurate assumptions in here, rc. What makes you think that the Scripture not being inerrant and inspired did not happen BEFORE this experience?
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Perhaps. I am giving Alex the benefit of doubt that an encounter with a spirit did happen. He wishes to call this spirit the Christian God. He then professes beliefs which are at odds with the whole of Christianity.
What makes you think that faith in the Body and Blood was ever present?
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Yes, I’m not assuming that.
It seems to me that this lack of orthodoxy is more likely to precipitate falling further away.
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I’m convinced, at this point, that there is a spirit at work. It may be possession.
 
“Alex337 said:
You mean God. And I’ll keep following His revelation, even your preaching tells me to 😊
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No, I definitely mean a spirit at odds with Jesus. You even claim my preaching to tell you something, while you change the meaning of what I am saying! It’s the same thing you are doing with Jesus.

For example, when we discuss Matthew 19:9, you claim the couple in a case of “porneia” are joined by God because Jesus recognizes they are married. But He also recognizes that if they “marry another, they commit adultery”. So we can see that Jesus does recognize “a marriage” can exist which is not a Christian marriage.
 
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I’m sorry you’re logic was bad, but that’s just how it was.

I use exaggeration to show the silliness of your standpoint. Such as you not thinking an opinion formed by human understanding can have value, an idea you came to via human understanding.
 
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“rcwitness said:
Alex337 said:
You mean God. And I’ll keep following His revelation, even your preaching tells me to 😊
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No, I definitely mean a spirit at odds with Jesus. You even claim my preaching to tell you something, while you change the meaning of what I am saying! It’s the same thing you are doing with Jesus.

For example, when we discuss Matthew 19:9, you claim the couple in a case of “porneia” are joined by God because Jesus recognizes they are married. But He also recognizes that if they “marry another, they commit adultery”. So we can see that Jesus does recognize “a marriage” can exist which is not a Christian marriage.
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Actually I asked you whether it did. You believe it means incest, I believe Jesus likely never even used that word as he spoke Aramaic. You also believe Jesus likes nonsequiturs.
 
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