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Maxirad
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If so, does He hate the lukewarm soul even more than He hates mortal sin?
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Charlemagne_III
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Hate is too strong a word to ascribe God.
God does not hate the lukewarm soul, but condemnation is certainly possible.
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Maxirad
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Is it safe to say that God detests the lukewarm soul?
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Hatikvah
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I don’t think it’s a “more hatred towards (this) than (that)” idea. God is greater than we can imagine, obviously, and He can only give us words like “hatred” and “wrath” to convey His inclusion of justice and other aspects in His nature. This is called anthropomorphism in literature.
So first, we must recognize that God loves all humans (John 3:16, 1 John 2:2, Romans 5:8). It is unconditional love that God has for even the most recalcitrant sinner because it is based out of God’s very nature of love (1 John 4:8).
Revelation, obviously, uses symbolism and perhaps allegory. We are “in” the Body of Christ as Christians; Jesus, the speaker, promises to “spit” the lukewarm Christians from His mouth, which is part of His body:
Anger, perhaps, but hate has a connotation of being needlessly destructive and uncalled for.
So first, we must recognize that God loves all humans (John 3:16, 1 John 2:2, Romans 5:8). It is unconditional love that God has for even the most recalcitrant sinner because it is based out of God’s very nature of love (1 John 4:8).
Revelation, obviously, uses symbolism and perhaps allegory. We are “in” the Body of Christ as Christians; Jesus, the speaker, promises to “spit” the lukewarm Christians from His mouth, which is part of His body:
He has a righteous indignation against the sinner, the lukewarm Christian, and yet He still loves him unconditionally on account of His loving nature. Remember, there is more than one type of love, especially when it comes to God.
Anger, perhaps, but hate has a connotation of being needlessly destructive and uncalled for.
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Crusaderbear
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How about disappointed…Attributing hate to God is not our place.
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StudentMI
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Doesn’t this arise because ancient Hebrew only had a word meaning ‘hate’ to describe something other than love or blessing?
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Charlemagne_III
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Possibly?
Revelation 3:16:
“So, because you are lukewarm–neither hot nor cold–I am about to spit you out of my mouth.”
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Hatikvah
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Remember, the New Testament authors were working with Greek, though Jesus spoke Aramaic. There is a common theory that Revelation was written in Aramaic and translated to Greek, and that make sense considering that 666 would come out as Nero in Aramaic text.
Well, the word denoting “to hate” (sane, שָׂנֵא) can be used simply to mean “hate,” but it also denotes the lack of love (as in God not condoning something), enmity, “to turn against,” and other words about the rejection of something (sin?). [source]
There is an extensive Yahoo Answers answer on here, the sources within it: answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110714045815AA3pdSI
And lastly, another source directly on the word for “hatred” in Hebrew: biblicalhebrew.com/nt/lovehate.htm
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fladreamer
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Ha ha! I thought your next post was going to be: ''Does God resent lukewarm souls? No disrespect meant.
I think there is a great deal of anthropomorphism in our dealing/views of God. An uncreated being who is eternal, who created this humongous universe some 13 billion years ago, who is love, and although perfectly content and satisfied creates us and wants to be our father,as it were. It certainly boggles the mind. God is not a robot, yet the consensus seems to be that he doesn’t experience emotions.jimmyakin.com/2007/03/does_god_feel_p.html
‘‘Disappointed’’ entails an element of surprise, God being prescient he can’t be disappointed.
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Hatikvah
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Yes, there is a great deal of anthropomorphism involved. That was a good link, though it says:
Love would not exist if God did not have it; God does have love, and that is His most notable emotion (state of being, really) for the Christian to note. The presence of the Holy Spirit, which you might feel while deep in prayer, is simply an expression of this love.
The other stuff is anthropomorphism (we can differentiate pretty easily there, often).
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fred_conty
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I think Jesus said that to wake up the indifferent and to say that their attitude is dangerous.
Sometimes we say things in one way but mean something else in order to make a point. But in reality, he made this statement because he wanted to help them and not because he hated them.
I know when raising my children, when we sat down at supper and we had a new food item on the table, I would tell them that they wouldn’t like it and then I would put some on my plate. Invariable, they wanted it too.
Just reverse psychology.
So salesmen, bosses, parents, and others just get inventive in order to get an idea across.
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fisherman_carl
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That Scripture doesn’t necessarily mean hate. The people he was writing to made tea. If you took tea that was not made right you would spit it out because it tastes bad. It is more an indication of their spiritual condition than of Jesus’ disposition towards them. Jesus wants them to be free of all idols and fully come to him.
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Trichakra
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God love everyone even if he/she lukewarm soul. Love of god’s is not like ours. 
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OneSheep
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God love everyone even if he/she lukewarm soul. Love of god’s is not like ours.
Yes, our Father is infinitely loving, merciful, and patient. Even disappointment depends on an unmet expectation. Since God is omniscient, He already knows the ultimate choices we will make.
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Omaestre
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In the old Latin vulgate and the english DRB the word used is vomit, I think it is safer to assume that God’s won’t accept those who are lukewarm in their belief.
Combine this with the parable of the wedding feast in Matthew 22 where even those who are guests, but without proper vestments are thrown out. Many are called and yet few are chosen.
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