Does God know all our thoughts?

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What do you think are the implications either way? If God does not know all our thoughts then He is not all knowing. If God does know all our thoughts then we can count on our being judged by the thoughts we choose to focus our attention on. Also, if God knows all our thoughts then we must consider that the Holy Spirit has power over our thoughts, as does Satan!
 
Yes, He is absolutely all-knowing, but the Lord is also all-Loving. He does not look at you and constantly condemn. But that is why we confess our impure thoughts and motives in confession. If we are dwelling on things unholy then in a sense we are making ourselves idols also. We want to think how we want to instead of how our Divine Creator made us to.

Remember, you do have free will. The Holy Spirit can, but in most cases does not put thoughts in our minds. The Lord gave us free will so we could better love Him.

God bless!
 
What do you think are the implications either way? If God does not know all our thoughts then He is not all knowing. If God does know all our thoughts then we can count on our being judged by the thoughts we choose to focus our attention on.
Indeed, which is why shameful thoughts are the reason why I put a figurative Magnum to my head half the time.
Also, if God knows all our thoughts then we must consider that the Holy Spirit has power over our thoughts, as does Satan!
Wrong. Knowing a person’s thoughts does not necessarily mean you can control them. Such a notion is only born out of science-fiction fantasy. You can read a book but you can’t exactly change the words (and no, vandalizing it doesn’t count).
 
God knows our thoughts, but does not control them. We have free will. The devil does NOT know our thoughts. He is a creation and limited. He only has the power we give him by giving in to temptation and sin.
 
Yes, He is absolutely all-knowing, but the Lord is also all-Loving. He does not look at you and constantly condemn. But that is why we confess our impure thoughts and motives in confession. If we are dwelling on things unholy then in a sense we are making ourselves idols also. We want to think how we want to instead of how our Divine Creator made us to.

Remember, you do have free will. The Holy Spirit can, but in most cases does not put thoughts in our minds. The Lord gave us free will so we could better love Him.

God bless!
I content that we have free will to choose which thoughts we are going to focus our attention on. To be holy is to focus our attention on thoughts of faith, hope and LOVE. These thoughts come in the form of grace from the fruit of the Holy Spirit! Any thoughts that go against virtue comes from the evil one, Satan!
 
God knows our thoughts, but does not control them. We have free will. The devil does NOT know our thoughts. He is a creation and limited. He only has the power we give him by giving in to temptation and sin.
How can Satan tempt without placing thoughts in our heads? Surly, he knows our thoughts and desires, and can manipulate them.
 
How can Satan tempt without placing thoughts in our heads? Surly, he knows our thoughts and desires, and can manipulate them.
Because there are cases where people are so amoral in of themselves, sin is an automatic thing for them. Convenient isn’t it? -.-
 
Because there are cases where people are so amoral in of themselves, sin is an automatic thing for them. Convenient isn’t it? -.-
This is true, but I think the OP has a partial point: Temptation can come from the devil so he must have the ability to place thoughts. (aside: I assume this means that angels (e.g. our guardian angel) could place good thoughts in our minds as well? This seems to make sense since they do “guide” us somehow).

However, I still hold that the devil can’t read our minds. That was one reason why Satan tempted Jesus in the desert - to see Who He really was. The devil wanted to know if he was really the Son of God or not (Luke 4:1-13).

I could find only this is the Catechsim, but it doesn’t address the question directly.

[395](javascript:openWindow(‘cr/395.htm’)😉 The power of Satan is, nonetheless, not infinite. He is only a creature, powerful from the fact that he is pure spirit, but still a creature. He cannot prevent the building up of God’s reign. Although Satan may act in the world out of hatred for God and his kingdom in Christ Jesus, and although his action may cause grave injuries - of a spiritual nature and, indirectly, even of a physical nature- to each man and to society, the action is permitted by divine providence which with strength and gentleness guides human and cosmic history. It is a great mystery that providence should permit diabolical activity, but "we know that in everything God works for good with those who love him."275
 
I think if He knows every strand of hair on our head and since He knit us together in our mothers’ womb, He knows every thought.🙂
 
Yes, God knows all our thoughts, and everything about us… and yes it’s very possible to sin with our thoughts. Jesus said even having anger towards someone is like murder… and looking lustfully at someone is adultery… that is because sin comes from the heart, it is not only actions, but choices. If a thought comes into your head and you don’t want it and are fighting it, then it’s not a mortal sin. But if you dwell on it, or like it, or accept it, - that is a sin.
 
God knows our thoughts, but does not control them. We have free will. The devil does NOT know our thoughts. He is a creation and limited. He only has the power we give him by giving in to temptation and sin.
:clapping: :tiphat:

Too many give this devil the attributes of God. :tsktsk:

Good topic though! I always wonder if we are going to be judged for our thoughts.
 
What do you think are the implications either way? If God does not know all our thoughts then He is not all knowing. If God does know all our thoughts then we can count on our being judged by the thoughts we choose to focus our attention on. Also, if God knows all our thoughts then we must consider that the Holy Spirit has power over our thoughts, as does Satan!
God knows our thoughts, but generally doesn’t interfere with them. As somebody else said, one can read a book but not change it even if the person had the means to do so.

I also think the devil and demons can also read our thoughts, but only by concentrating on one or a few people. God reads all the thoughts of all people at all times, but the devil hasn’t got that sort of power.

For the devil to tempt, he needs to be able to read our thoughts to some extent. In “The Screwtape Letters”, one of Screwtape’s patients (I think Lewis had Karl Marx in mind) is reading in the British Library when Screwtape spots a thought going where he doesn’t want it to go. He points out the Wormwood, the Junior Tempter, that he was not such a fool as to argue, as the Enemy (God) could argue too. Instead he struck in another way, indicating to the patient that it was too important a train of thought to pursue on an empty stomach. He got him outside for lunch. Once he was outside, the battle was won (by Screwtape).

But he was only focussing on one person. God reads all thoughts, at all times. And He doesn’t forget them either. As Christ said, “On the day of judgement, a man will answer for every useless word.” Which worries me a bit.
 
the saints said (example is saint therese of infant Jesus) that the devils cant read minds. he just whispers us to tempt us. God removed their ability to read minds when they fell from heaven
 
the saints said (example is saint therese of infant Jesus) that the devils cant read minds. he just whispers us to tempt us. God removed their ability to read minds when they fell from heaven
:yup: The Enemy can’t read our minds, nor does he have to - he simply has to observe us and our tendencies and take it from there.
 
Wrong. Knowing a person’s thoughts does not necessarily mean you can control them. Such a notion is only born out of science-fiction fantasy. You can read a book but you can’t exactly change the words (and no, vandalizing it doesn’t count).
As a former severe bipolar patient, I have some pretty strong personal experiences with unwanted thoughts and feelings. From that experience I can agree with you that you cannot control them directly – at least in “real time.” Of course, you can choose what you wish to think about and that offers a bit of control, but if you’re doing it to avoid thoughts you’re tempted to think then it often backfires. It’s like the old joke, “don’t think about a pink elephant.”

I like the t-shirt I saw on one guy, that read, “since you read this, I just controlled your mind for three seconds.”

Given all that, my experience has also shown what we CAN do. We can feed ourselves the Word. We can question our dearly held beliefs. We can pray and fast and do works of mercy. We can engage in silent (contemplative) prayer forms, thus inviting the H.S. to come in and renew us and give us the experience of true union with Christ. (See CCC 2697-2724) We can listen to people whom we think don’t have anything useful to say, and try to see their wisdom. We can seek the guidance of a competent Spiritual Director.

In short, we can do things to quit protecting the “bushel” that hides our light (our “false selves,”) and invite God in to renew our minds and spirits.

When this happens, true healing takes place. Not control of the symptoms, like what medication does, but actual healing, where your whole world view is turned upside down, and through much testing and striving, one starts seeing things differently and thinking differently and consequently feeling differently. This may sound difficult, but that’s one of the reasons I believe God allows hardships – because they break down all the beliefs and thoughts we ever had, gradually or all at once (as in Paul-to-Saul) to where we know not just in our minds but in our hearts that we are utterly helpless without God. Then we cry out with a prayer akin to “God, help me,” and this time really mean it. God might just say to us, “do you really think you can hear and understand me now?” To which we reply “yes Lord,” thinking now God will shower us with blessings – but alas, we might just have to endure more tests before we see the blessings manifest themselves in our hearts, minds, and least and last, worldly circumstances.

Conclusion: we cannot control what we think, short term. We can, however, submit ourselves freely and submissively to God and allow Him to redesign our hearts and spirits and minds, and at that point we will gain the wisdom to know how to deal with any troubling thoughts that remain.

Or, we can be stubborn and cling to our thoughts and beliefs and our patterns of repeated failure and say the same prayers and read the same scriptures and still not “get it.”

Alan
 
:yup: The Enemy can’t read our minds, nor does he have to - he simply has to observe us and our tendencies and take it from there.
Excellent point. I suspect any good salesman can give us lessons in doing that.

Alan
 
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