Does God use sin to accomplish his plan?

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I have come to far to return. We disagree a bit on logic, and a great deal on what we will worship, but in my world, none of that matters.
Merry Christmas to you and yours.
No you haven’t. It’s not too late. You can go back to God and His Church, no matter how hard it is. God wants you to come back, because He loves you. He wants you to love Him back.
 
I have come to far to return. We disagree a bit on logic, and a great deal on what we will worship, but in my world, none of that matters.
Merry Christmas to you and yours.
If none of it matters, then why are you asking about it? If it really didn’t matter to you, then you wouldn’t be asking about it and discussing it.
 
If none of it matters, then why are you asking about it? If it really didn’t matter to you, then you wouldn’t be asking about it and discussing it.
It’s really very simple…I am a fallible human and I like hearing the thoughts of intelligent people, whether I agree with them or not. I don’t know the future, nor do I know if something one of you says might make a major difference, Being 56 yrs. old, I know that things can change,

Since it is now officially Christmas, I wish you a happy one. My wish is that everyone could bask in the glow of the people they love and who love them.

John
 
Matthew 5:43-48

43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you salute only your brethren, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? 48 You, therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”

In verse 43, Jesus corrects what the Jews believe about hating the enemy. This kind of thinking is threaded all throughout the Old Testament. Verse 44 and 45 explains how God acts toward good and evil people. He does good toward them. This is observable in the real world for God does not strike down anyone. (That’s Old Testament theology). Verse 46-47 asks what reward do we have? The reward of loving the enemy is that the enemy may be converted by love unto love. It happens all the time. Verse 48 says be perfect as our Father is perfect. What does it mean to be perfect then? “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.” That is the conduct that we are called to. In Jesus’s response to his own persecution we can witness God’s perfection. He does not kill. He does not steal. He does not turn away from God. He forgives. He prays for forgiveness for his persecutors. He shows that he is a Son of God.

This is how we are to respond to evil. Endurance. Forgive. Pray for God to forgive and have mercy. If we do these things, we can be called children of God for this is how God responds to evil. We are Christians. It is a tall order, no doubt. Many, many people do not consider this the perfect God. They spit in his face and slap him. “Where is your God now?”, they mock, but we say “Remember me when you come into your Kingdom.”
 
Matthew 5:43-48

43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you salute only your brethren, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? 48 You, therefore, must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”

In verse 43, Jesus corrects what the Jews believe about hating the enemy. This kind of thinking is threaded all throughout the Old Testament. Verse 44 and 45 explains how God acts toward good and evil people. He does good toward them. This is observable in the real world for God does not strike down anyone. (That’s Old Testament theology). Verse 46-47 asks what reward do we have? The reward of loving the enemy is that the enemy may be converted by love unto love. It happens all the time. Verse 48 says be perfect as our Father is perfect. What does it mean to be perfect then? “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.” That is the conduct that we are called to. In Jesus’s response to his own persecution we can witness God’s perfection. He does not kill. He does not steal. He does not turn away from God. He forgives. He prays for forgiveness for his persecutors. He shows that he is a Son of God.

This is how we are to respond to evil. Endurance. Forgive. Pray for God to forgive and have mercy. If we do these things, we can be called children of God for this is how God responds to evil. We are Christians. It is a tall order, no doubt. Many, many people do not consider this the perfect God. They spit in his face and slap him. “Where is your God now?”, they mock, but we say “Remember me when you come into your Kingdom.”
The conversion of the your enemy is not the only reward for loving him. Even if he never converts or loves at all, you will still be rewarded in heaven. Also, you are leaving out that we need baptism to become children of God.
 
I think St. John is either making some very big assumptions, or this is a personal revelation. It really doesn’t matter right now. My family is beginning the Christmas festivities.

My you also have a festive and rewarding Christmas. No matter our specific beliefs, this a special time of year to revel in the ones we love. Merry Christmas.
Love, health, happiness to you and yours.

Merry Chistmas.

Peace
 
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