Hi Cassini,
The way I see it, God is so consistent about how he moves physical objects, that we simplify things for ourselves and call it a “law of nature”.
So, we can make up a “law of nature” that predicts how God moves particles around, and how God moves the Earth around the Sun, etc.
I don’t think it affects heliocentricity vs. geocentricity.
Does that make sense?
Not quite Neil. You write ‘make up laws of nature’. You probably just used the wrong words. A ‘make up law of nature’ is a theory, not a law:
Q. What is a Law?
A Law is not a cause, a theory, or hypothesis, but a statement or formula expressing the constant order of a certain fact of nature.
Q. So, what is a theory?
A theory or hypothesis is a supposition; a proposition assumed for the sake of argument, a theory to be proved or disproved by reference to facts.
Q. When does a theory become a scientific fact?
A scientific theory, according to most philosophers from Aristotle to Popper, in addition to being explanatory and self-consistent (non-contradictory), must also be testable or falsifiable. It must be vulnerable to observation and we must, in principle, be able to envision a set of observations that would render the theory false. A scientific theory that does not contain these requisites is but pseudo-science, and has no right to be classed as science. Only when a theory has proven consistent and cannot be falsified will it become regarded as a fact.
Note however ‘gravity’ has been ‘divided’ into two, one we can witness and measure on earth, thus a ‘law of gravity’.
The other used to move cosmic bodies and later to get those so-called particles of matter from a ‘Big Bang’ to form stars, planets, life and man. This ‘gravity’ is a theory that has been inserted into science as LAW to convice people that geocentricism is an illusion. The distinction is crucial in understanding the heliocentric fraud, a theory that has been made look like a law.
There are secrets of nature (laws) well beyond man’s understanding. What causes gravity is one of them, and what causes the cosmic bodies to move as they do is another.
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Dost thou know the order of heaven, and canst thou
set down the reason thereof on the earth? Who can
declare the order of the heavens or who can make
the harmony of heaven to sleep?’ — (Job. 38:33-37).
‘Give me but one firm point on which to stand, and I will move the earth’ wrote Archimedes (287-212BC); unwittingly coining for posterity the problem asked of Job (man) above. Let me explain. In the Bible, God occasionally makes important statements by way of questions. In the Book of Job, the Creator tells pride-prone man that we are intellectual inferiors when compared to the great mystery that is Him and His creation. Here above we find Job being asked if he knows the order of the cosmos, by what means it is so ordered and reminding him that it is He alone who created it, fully understands it, and maintains it.
No doubt most believe modern science has, or will, figured out the full nature of the universe, its origins and laws and that its movements are caused by ‘gravity’. The truth of course is that the above challenge is as valid today as it was in Job’s time and will remain so if man thinks he can reason it all out by himself. One of the problems for man’s science is the phenomenon of space. The simple fact is that in space there is no ‘empirical’ way of knowing the true order of the universe
and therefore its laws, for the simple reason that unless we know for certain of a body in it that is fixed, ‘a firm point’ against which all celestial movements can be identified, then it is impossible to prove if it is geocentric or heliocentric. This insurmountable problem is called relative movement in space, and this simple relativity was once, and has become again, an accepted fact by all of sane and sound reason. Only if we could position ourselves outside the universe and look back at it would it be possible for us to see the true order and harmony of its many movements. But because we are confined within our place and are never likely to reach beyond the stars for the purpose of observation and communication, our view of the order for universe will always be little more than guesswork.
On the other hand, the same question in Job infers that God knows the exact movements of the individual cosmic bodies and by what means they are caused to go about their business every day, every month, every year, every 33 or 600 years. Accordingly, up to the eighteenth century at least, it was held by believers, quite logically, that only He and angels know the true order and mechanism of the universe, and only if He - or they with His permission - reveal it to us will we ever know what that order truly is. Thus when the Bible, the word of God as revealed to the Hebrews and fulfilled in Christianity, asserts or infers something in hundreds of places, and this is confirmed by Church decree, it can be stated that yes, the order is geocentric, with the earth at the centre of the physical and spiritual world with the universe always turning around it. Apart from this, the only certainty that the sciences of astronomy, physics or cosmology can offer us about the relative movement of the earth, sun, planets and stars is limited to established and proper data, all else being mere assumption or speculation. Earthmoving and sun fixing then, are no more than attempts by man to establish our preferred order of the heavens above in spite of the virtual impossibility of proving this through the physical sciences alone as inferred to Job from on high.
